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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 16:54:05 GMT
I might make a prediction here, a lot of the Labour candidates were young, one I saw looked liked he just left school. Five years will fly by, and those young ones will still be young, they'll have got the taste of power and all the perks that go with it, and they wont want to lose it, when they see the mood of the people, and the chance they might be kicked out at the next GE, I think they might start actually listening to the people. If Labour win the next GE they know Starmer will not be leader of the Labour party, so they might start standing up to him, they will want at least another Labour term, and to be honest they will get hammered at the next Local Elections. The next GE Labour lose I doubt they'll ever see power again, I don't think Starmer will be PM for long, I'll give him 12 months tops. His policies will prove to be very unpopular especially with Labour voters and that will worry Labour back benchers. I reckon Labour will take a right kicking at the local elections next year and that coupled with Starmer leading an unpopular government will seal his fate, and can you imagine a chav like Rayner as British prime minister lol, that would be the end for this government. But, and digressing slightly, the Tories have to get their act together. They will have every opportunity to take advantage of this unpopular government. Well before the next election people will be crying out for a proper centre right government who put British people first. If the Tories stay centrist as many of them want to, people will definately vote for Farage and Reform UK. If the Tories want to capitalise on this shower of a government the Tories must move to the centre right. In my opinion, lol. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2024 17:04:11 GMT
I might make a prediction here, a lot of the Labour candidates were young, one I saw looked liked he just left school. Five years will fly by, and those young ones will still be young, they'll have got the taste of power and all the perks that go with it, and they wont want to lose it, when they see the mood of the people, and the chance they might be kicked out at the next GE, I think they might start actually listening to the people. If Labour win the next GE they know Starmer will not be leader of the Labour party, so they might start standing up to him, they will want at least another Labour term, and to be honest they will get hammered at the next Local Elections. The next GE Labour lose I doubt they'll ever see power again, I don't think Starmer will be PM for long, I'll give him 12 months tops. His policies will prove to be very unpopular especially with Labour voters and that will worry Labour back benchers. I reckon Labour will take a right kicking at the local elections next year and that coupled with Starmer leading an unpopular government will seal his fate, and can you imagine a chav like Rayner as British prime minister lol, that would be the end for this government. But, and digressing slightly, the Tories have to get their act together. They will have every opportunity to take advantage of this unpopular government. Well before the next election people will be crying out for a proper centre right government who put British people first. If the Tories stay centrist as many of them want to, people will definately vote for Farage and Reform UK. If the Tories want to capitalise on this shower of a government the Tories must move to the centre right. In my opinion, lol. It hasn't gone unnoticed that both Scotland and Wales are sending their police to help deal with the riots in ENgland.
If you look at the predicted riot maps both Scotland and Wales there is no trouble, that tells us that both Scotland and Wales do not have a migrant problem because they aren't taking their fair share, I can guarantee you if these migrants were scattered over Scotland and Wales we would be witnessing the same level of discontent, using England as the dumping ground for migrants is no longer a option, Wales and Scotland will have to pull their weight, and if the leader refuse then we all know they are RACISTS.
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 10, 2024 17:34:41 GMT
Do you ever actually read a post before you c&p one of your standard knee jerk ''it's all the Torie/Mrs T's /The rights fault highly subjective personal opinion posts ? You started your post with "They have had a chance by being elected ( albeit that 80% of the electorate didn't vote for them) and blew it". So already "had blown it". You damned your post from your opening statement. So I had no reason to believe that the rest of you post would be anything other than more biased clap trap. I anticipated another nonsense reply, and got one. My post was in answer to your post which stated Give Labour a chanceI did with a completely relevant post , they blew it - when they typical standard socialist meanness by targeting pensioners (who have little opportunity to increase income) instead of the working age who can Your usual failure to address facts , preferring to attack , post irrelevancies and pathetically try to denigrate those who do not worship the ground Sir Kneeler walks on was not unexpected . Think it was one of your ''All things Labour are wonderful '' posts where you stated that Sir Kneeler would unite the country - he's not doing a very good job of that - is he? |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 10, 2024 17:37:23 GMT
We can all sleep safely in our beds thanks to Starmer: 20 months in prison for a social media post - 6 months for killing a teen with a machete.   |
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 10, 2024 17:38:04 GMT
Hard right referred to the worst PM this country has had i.e. Thatcher. !979 to 1990. IIRC Muslim immigration into the UK happened in the 1980s. But my point was not part of the immigration problem, it was about the Tory rubbishing of the UK economy over the last 70 years. So your "simple demonstration" is simply wrong. It seem that you are the one that is rhetorically speaking 'brain dead'. You seem to be talking about conservatives, not the hard right C2 thinks that anyone who isn't a lefty like him is ''hard right'' |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 17:50:48 GMT
We can all sleep safely in our beds thanks to Starmer: 20 months in prison for a social media post - 6 months for killing a teen with a machete. That's just insane. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 17:54:06 GMT
We can all sleep safely in our beds thanks to Starmer: 20 months in prison for a social media post - 6 months for killing a teen with a machete. That's just insane. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum. It's deliberate and calculated |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2024 18:00:12 GMT
That's just insane. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum. It's deliberate and calculated Exactly, but many of us on this forum and beyond have been saying this for years, in the last week we've witnessed the law makers at their finest, so we know the law is there when need be, but who is the force determining the ... need be? |
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 18:01:31 GMT
It's deliberate and calculated Exactly, but many of us on this forum and beyond have been saying this for years, in the last week we've witnessed the law makers at their finest, so we know the law is there when need be, but who is the force determining the ... need be? Indeed. The last week has shown that they can enforce the law properly - when they want to Deliberate |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2024 18:14:05 GMT
Exactly, but many of us on this forum and beyond have been saying this for years, in the last week we've witnessed the law makers at their finest, so we know the law is there when need be, but who is the force determining the ... need be? Indeed. The last week has shown that they can enforce the law properly - when they want to I've thought about this, most criminal cases can take 12 months and beyond before they get to court, and I have reached the conclusion that it's all about money, lawyers/solicitors/barristers dragging it out so they can drain the tax payers for all they are worth, but in this instance they haven't had that luxury, however the leeches will be on standby for appeals, there is too much money to be made out of all this. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 18:14:49 GMT
That's just insane. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum. It's deliberate and calculated I need to make some sense of this madness. I may have to watch Bill Burr for half an hour... |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 10, 2024 21:14:09 GMT
Exactly, but many of us on this forum and beyond have been saying this for years, in the last week we've witnessed the law makers at their finest, so we know the law is there when need be, but who is the force determining the ... need be? Indeed. The last week has shown that they can enforce the law properly - when they want to This is a point that is being asked more and more - if a rapid response to law breaking is achievable this week why not every week? |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 10, 2024 21:16:11 GMT
Indeed. The last week has shown that they can enforce the law properly - when they want to I've thought about this, most criminal cases can take 12 months and beyond before they get to court, and I have reached the conclusion that it's all about money, lawyers/solicitors/barristers dragging it out so they can drain the tax payers for all they are worth, but in this instance they haven't had that luxury, however the leeches will be on standby for appeals, there is too much money to be made out of all this. There are a lot of people making an awful lot of money out of the Legal Aid system - until those incentives are capped no progress will be seen. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 11, 2024 6:47:14 GMT
I see Starmer has doubled down on his laughable "far Right" narrative. Silly boy. There may be a "yob" element to the demonstrations but the main point of the demonstrations is to protest about mass uncontrolled immigration. And that's not far Right - it's just the opinion of the vast majority of the British public. But the reason why it's suddenly kicked off is because the new Labour govt has wasted no time in signalling its intention to do nothing about mass immigration: - It's immediately abandoned the Rwanda policy which could be a reasonable deterrent if we could get through the legal objections. In doing so they have also just thrown away about half a billion of taxpayers' money. - They've cancelled the Bibi Stockholm barge so the people on it will have to be put up in more hotels. - They've also abandoned the policy of requiring that legal migrants earn enough money to live without benefits. Under the Tories the required salary was to be increased to £38k (IIRC) but now it's to be left at about £26k - which will mean they'll be elgible for benefits. Crazy. - And it seems Starmer is going to accept that the EU can send us a quota of "illegals" in return for stopping the boats. For a start that will mean we accept more muslim illegals then we're getting now - and it almost certainly won't stop the boats anyway. I think people have looked at Labour's attitude to immigration and deduced that Labour is basically in favour of no borders, which is a disaster. Starmer appears to think people are stupid. And - just to add insult to injury - Starmer has found £30 million to help protect the mosques. And most of the hard-line mosques now carry extremist literature and preach hate - as the police discovered at the Didcot mosque. The British people have no responsibility to protect the mosques. Also I see that Starmer has said nothing about the muslim gangs (e.g. in Bolton) who are going out and attacking white people with sticks etc. This is perfectly OK apparently - just like the assault of police officers, provided you're muslim of course. But Starmer would rather blame everything on the mythical far Right. So Tommy Robinson is to blame for everything - or should I say Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. It's funny how the Left are scrupulous about getting people's pronouns right but when a person they don't like has changed their name they refuse to use his new name. Yet if you'd changed your sex they'd use your new name. I'm gaining a new respect for yobs, or at least the traditional British yob. They aren't so bad if you get to know them. They just have a healthy fuck-you attitude towards the system, e.g. school, shite jobs, political correctness, being told what to do all the time. When push comes to shove, I believe we are going to need the services of the British yobs to get us out of this mess. They don't have anything to lose and everything to gain by destroying these dictators one way or another, even if it means turning up to their house and punching their lights out after a pissup. The one thing they have which most do not is a pair of balls. As the system, you don't get any brownie points for locking them all up since they will do a Strangeways on you. Like I say, they have balls , hence the respect. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Aug 11, 2024 8:54:44 GMT
What has happened to the rioters ? ... where have they gone ? ... as that old phrase goes "all quiet on the western front". The co-ordination of the police, the CPS, intelligence, the Home Office and others all led by Keir Starmer has seen them off, its been a successfull joint effort. So instead of WHY SIR KEIR HAS IT WRONG, the reality is that Sir Keir got it right, with a lot of help and assistance from our police forces, the Crown Prosecution Service and the courts. Very swift justice - no light sentencing - maximum jail terms - the menacing threat of "we are coming for you" and "expect a knock on your door", has seemingly frightened them all off, closed them down and brought peace back to our streets. Yet here we are, people making complete fools of themselves, blaming Keir Starmer, a man who has been Prime Minister for 5 weeks, leading a governing party which has been out of office for 14 years. Meanwhile the opposition Conservative Party, presided of record levels of immigration, and no matter how they tryed, could not stop the boat crossings, for which I personally believe is not entirely the Tories fault, but the narrative that its somehow Keir Starmers fault is just plain ridiculous. I think a lot of families across this country this weekend are in shock, they thought their "mummy's boy" and their "little darlings" would get a slap on the wrists, but the thugs who think they are tough, got a real dose of tough punishment. Its the only way to deal with them - well done to our justice system, and to the police and all who keep us safe and uphold the rule of law. Your avatar name is very apt … Witchfinder and probably suggests where you are coming from … do you have any Family connections to James 1st and Elizabeth 1st by any chance? … they had their Deep State agents who infiltrated and reinforced the Police State. Nobody likes to see a rent-a- mob of yobs on the streets choosing the wrong targets … and it was right to put them down and restore order … but the dangerous religious immigrant extremists … LEFTIST ANARCHISTS still control our Police Forces and our streets ….and rioted as police used kid gloves to the stabbings, looting, vandalism for YEARS … so let’s not over react to these reactionary knee-jerk riots built from longterm frustrations and biased policing policies. The Tories were responsible for this current state of FRUSTRATION that has blown out of all proportion here … 8 years of post-Brexit neglect that failed to secure our borders, fast track Brexit transition, cut away red tape … and secure our Country from invasion by dangerous immigrants. Starmer gets the backlash because he does NOTHING and says NOTHING showing NO INTENT to address the key MAJOR immigration PROBLEM … MAJOR SECURITY CONCERN here. WEEK 1 he reinforces commitment of the deployment of our military/security in the Ukraine situation … A MAJOR POLICY MISTAKE - that sent a MAJOR ‘FUCK YOU’ to the British Public … homeland security wasn’t important … He also showed clearly his service to BLM/ Zionism/Islam and the CIA/EU almost on bended knee … especially to that NAZI WORM ACTOR Zelenski … CLEARLY his No. 1 priorities since getting crowbarred into No. 10 by a MSM that hardly amplified the true promoters bankrolling and controlling him. Starmer’s the man in charge now … not that we forget or forgive Sunak’s super damaging legacy. The MSM stay silent and deliver no solutions to border security issues every Briton knows immediately how to fix. If our DEFENCE FORCES were deployed to DEFEND our Nation and borders from forced insurgency. … NOT deployed by foreign agencies to be engaged supporting other tyrants interests. … at home doing an effective job … there would be NO RIOTS … or a platform for Far Right extremism. But you and the MSM/Government present no solutions, Witchfinder … and it is this LEFT WING stupidity, incompetence and neglect … that the Tory Party adopted … a compliance with MSM manipulation … that germinated so-called Far Right expansionism in the UK and Europe since Brexit. Wishy washy incompetence and anarchy is the main recruiter for far right reactionary responses … so why scapegoat those on this Forum and it’s Members who suggest many sensible solutions to our problems?? Governments in Europe and the UK ignore these solutions … because it doesn’t fit Globalist’s exploitative ‘forced immigration’ policies. Shutting down ‘social media’ is more on the MSM/Parliamentary Agenda … than bringing troops home now … our Navy home now … to do it’s PROPER JOB. HOME DEFENCE. |
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