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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 5, 2024 7:20:52 GMT
I see Starmer has doubled down on his laughable "far Right" narrative. Silly boy. There may be a "yob" element to the demonstrations but the main point of the demonstrations is to protest about mass uncontrolled immigration. And that's not far Right - it's just the opinion of the vast majority of the British public.
But the reason why it's suddenly kicked off is because the new Labour govt has wasted no time in signalling its intention to do nothing about mass immigration:
- It's immediately abandoned the Rwanda policy which could be a reasonable deterrent if we could get through the legal objections. In doing so they have also just thrown away about half a billion of taxpayers' money.
- They've cancelled the Bibi Stockholm barge so the people on it will have to be put up in more hotels.
- They've also abandoned the policy of requiring that legal migrants earn enough money to live without benefits. Under the Tories the required salary was to be increased to £38k (IIRC) but now it's to be left at about £26k - which will mean they'll be elgible for benefits. Crazy.
- And it seems Starmer is going to accept that the EU can send us a quota of "illegals" in return for stopping the boats. For a start that will mean we accept more muslim illegals then we're getting now - and it almost certainly won't stop the boats anyway.
I think people have looked at Labour's attitude to immigration and deduced that Labour is basically in favour of no borders, which is a disaster. Starmer appears to think people are stupid. And - just to add insult to injury - Starmer has found £30 million to help protect the mosques. And most of the hard-line mosques now carry extremist literature and preach hate - as the police discovered at the Didcot mosque. The British people have no responsibility to protect the mosques.
Also I see that Starmer has said nothing about the muslim gangs (e.g. in Bolton) who are going out and attacking white people with sticks etc. This is perfectly OK apparently - just like the assault of police officers, provided you're muslim of course.
But Starmer would rather blame everything on the mythical far Right. So Tommy Robinson is to blame for everything - or should I say Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. It's funny how the Left are scrupulous about getting people's pronouns right but when a person they don't like has changed their name they refuse to use his new name. Yet if you'd changed your sex they'd use your new name.
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 5, 2024 8:13:11 GMT
steppenwolf
I'd say it's a bit early in the morning to be attempting to stretch credibility that far Wolfie. Anyone taking the slightest notice of Labour's 'signals' over the last 4 years, or the last 4 decades come to that, would be under little illusion that they were the last Party you'd turn to in order to get some serious action on mass immigration.
How many of the rioters in Middlesbrough would even know that immigrants will no longer be on the Bibi Stockholm but more likely get hotel accommodation instead? Would they even be surprised let alone raging with anger. It's a Starmer, Yvette, Lammy Government for goodness sake,
have people really been blindsided ?. And a quota of illegals in return for stopping the boats ? The simple thought of such a policy, and the perceived small chance of its success the reason 'it's all kicking off ?' ....pull the other one !
As a Country we need to make up our minds. If you own a wonky pub and decide you want to knock it down and build something else on your land, the State is up in arms straight away, claiming that it might be 'yours', but you can't lay a finger on it without State permission.
Yet in conjunction we're also wanting to say free reign for vandalism as far as we're concerned as regards other peoples property, and if you want to keep your private property still standing you'll have to protect it yourself. It's a two tier approach of interfering completely in some cases, and not giving a damn in others that would be worthy of Keir Stalin himself.
But the least that should be done is to announce it properly so that all are aware. If the responsibility for stopping a mob in Rotherham from burning down the Holiday Inn (and those inside it), falls upon the owners of Holiday Inn to arrange their own security, inform them properly and tell them phoning the British taxpayer funded Police for assistance is no longer an option. Same with mosques, if a 'Not our responsibility Guv', we look in the opposite direction from now on' is the chosen road, then make that loud and clear and the Muslim Defence Patrols will step in to do the necessary.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 5, 2024 8:30:47 GMT
I see Starmer has doubled down on his laughable "far Right" narrative. Silly boy. There may be a "yob" element to the demonstrations but the main point of the demonstrations is to protest about mass uncontrolled immigration. And that's not far Right - it's just the opinion of the vast majority of the British public. But the reason why it's suddenly kicked off is because the new Labour govt has wasted no time in signalling its intention to do nothing about mass immigration: - It's immediately abandoned the Rwanda policy which could be a reasonable deterrent if we could get through the legal objections. In doing so they have also just thrown away about half a billion of taxpayers' money. - They've cancelled the Bibi Stockholm barge so the people on it will have to be put up in more hotels. - They've also abandoned the policy of requiring that legal migrants earn enough money to live without benefits. Under the Tories the required salary was to be increased to £38k (IIRC) but now it's to be left at about £26k - which will mean they'll be elgible for benefits. Crazy. - And it seems Starmer is going to accept that the EU can send us a quota of "illegals" in return for stopping the boats. For a start that will mean we accept more muslim illegals then we're getting now - and it almost certainly won't stop the boats anyway. I think people have looked at Labour's attitude to immigration and deduced that Labour is basically in favour of no borders, which is a disaster. Starmer appears to think people are stupid. And - just to add insult to injury - Starmer has found £30 million to help protect the mosques. And most of the hard-line mosques now carry extremist literature and preach hate - as the police discovered at the Didcot mosque. The British people have no responsibility to protect the mosques. Also I see that Starmer has said nothing about the muslim gangs (e.g. in Bolton) who are going out and attacking white people with sticks etc. This is perfectly OK apparently - just like the assault of police officers, provided you're muslim of course. But Starmer would rather blame everything on the mythical far Right. So Tommy Robinson is to blame for everything - or should I say Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. It's funny how the Left are scrupulous about getting people's pronouns right but when a person they don't like has changed their name they refuse to use his new name. Yet if you'd changed your sex they'd use your new name. I agree with your sentiment. What I think kicked it all off was those three little girls being murdered. If this had happened under a conservative government you would have had a handful of Tories coming out placating the British public with some harsh words on immigration and pledging to strive to get to the bottom of this, blah blah blah. Under a Labour government nobody has been placated by this questioning/rhetoric. It's of course, the classic look the other way like it was with the grooming gangs. Most of the British know by now, this Labour government will stand in the corner and fight for the rights of immigrants/muslims much more than white indigenous Brits. This for me has always been on the cards. The conservatives could just about keep a lid on it because they made the British believe they shared their concerns, so could be forgiven slightly. No such luck under this government. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 5, 2024 8:41:43 GMT
I see Starmer has doubled down on his laughable "far Right" narrative. Silly boy. There may be a "yob" element to the demonstrations but the main point of the demonstrations is to protest about mass uncontrolled immigration. And that's not far Right - it's just the opinion of the vast majority of the British public. But the reason why it's suddenly kicked off is because the new Labour govt has wasted no time in signalling its intention to do nothing about mass immigration: - It's immediately abandoned the Rwanda policy which could be a reasonable deterrent if we could get through the legal objections. In doing so they have also just thrown away about half a billion of taxpayers' money. - They've cancelled the Bibi Stockholm barge so the people on it will have to be put up in more hotels. - They've also abandoned the policy of requiring that legal migrants earn enough money to live without benefits. Under the Tories the required salary was to be increased to £38k (IIRC) but now it's to be left at about £26k - which will mean they'll be elgible for benefits. Crazy. - And it seems Starmer is going to accept that the EU can send us a quota of "illegals" in return for stopping the boats. For a start that will mean we accept more muslim illegals then we're getting now - and it almost certainly won't stop the boats anyway. I think people have looked at Labour's attitude to immigration and deduced that Labour is basically in favour of no borders, which is a disaster. Starmer appears to think people are stupid. And - just to add insult to injury - Starmer has found £30 million to help protect the mosques. And most of the hard-line mosques now carry extremist literature and preach hate - as the police discovered at the Didcot mosque. The British people have no responsibility to protect the mosques. Also I see that Starmer has said nothing about the muslim gangs (e.g. in Bolton) who are going out and attacking white people with sticks etc. This is perfectly OK apparently - just like the assault of police officers, provided you're muslim of course. But Starmer would rather blame everything on the mythical far Right. So Tommy Robinson is to blame for everything - or should I say Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. It's funny how the Left are scrupulous about getting people's pronouns right but when a person they don't like has changed their name they refuse to use his new name. Yet if you'd changed your sex they'd use your new name. Yep. Starmer is an extreme left ideologue with no appreciation of, nor interest in, the concerns of the majority whom he considers to be both thick and wrong.
This government will end in bloodshed.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 5, 2024 8:53:30 GMT
I think the mosques will eventually go up in flames. If it is not this time, there will be another brutal murder soon. Starmer is fucked. He has let ideology override reason.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 5, 2024 8:59:01 GMT
So we know what's going to be discussed at the COBRA meeting, how to come down hard on the protesters, no COBRA meetings and coming down hard on the racist antisemitic pro-palestine marchers, they were left to carry on their racist hatred while Jews had to go in hiding.
Not once, no mention that these three children are victims of a racist, not once has any of the shitbags in government called it racist murders, yet we all know had it been someone white who murdered three black children he would be branded racist and that's how he'd be dealt with, they've just given £50million to beef up security round mosques while robbing pensioners of a miserly £300 heating allowance, and they wonder why there are riots.
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Post by piglet on Aug 5, 2024 9:35:10 GMT
Its the whole shebang, immigration has lowered the standard of living of everybody, bankrupted us, choked roads, schools, etc, its riots over how badly this country is being run, and that the man in the street comes second to immigrants.
The girls were the straw that broke the camels back, god knows where we go from here, Starmer has signed his resignation letter. You cant bat against your own side.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 5, 2024 9:53:23 GMT
Its the whole shebang, immigration has lowered the standard of living of everybody, bankrupted us, choked roads, schools, etc, its riots over how badly this country is being run, and that the man in the street comes second to immigrants. The girls were the straw that broke the camels back, god knows where we go from here, Starmer has signed his resignation letter. You cant bat against your own side. Murdering those girls is something I think the Brits don't understand. I don't understand it. There is something they are hiding from us. |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 5, 2024 10:23:09 GMT
I just saw another comment online asking:
"Is this Labour's poll tax moment"?
I certainly hope so.
Did Labour claim back in '81 that rioting was a legitimate means of protest?
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 5, 2024 11:03:20 GMT
But the least that should be done is to announce it properly so that all are aware. If the responsibility for stopping a mob in Rotherham from burning down the Holiday Inn (and those inside it), falls upon the owners of Holiday Inn to arrange their own security, inform them properly and tell them phoning the British taxpayer funded Police for assistance is no longer an option. Same with mosques, if a ' Not our responsibility Guv', we look in the opposite direction from now on' is the chosen road, then make that loud and clear and the Muslim Defence Patrols will step in to do the necessary. Which is precisely what Jews have been having to do for decades. They have always provided their own security for schools and Synagogues.  |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 5, 2024 11:57:18 GMT
Buccaneer said "What I think kicked it all off was those three little girls being murdered."
Indeed. As I said on another thread it was a "trigger" event. It's like on the stock market you can have an unstable market where there are so many factors that are causing that instability (as now) but the trigger event that actually brings the crash is something that isn't really logically connected.
So the daft Left are saying "what's the problem the suspect wasn't muslim". But that's irrelevant. We've just seen so many atrocities being committed - and they always seem to be perpetrated by foreigners (or the offspring of foreigners). They're almost always muslims or blacks.
At some point people's patience runs out.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 5, 2024 11:58:26 GMT
I hope the Jews are behind these protests, or at least applauding the people standing up for them, Muslims have had their way far too long, the white people are second class citizens and the Jews daren't say anything for fear of retribution.
Starmer and Labour did nothing while the Jewish community were being targeted by Hamas terrorists, where was the 'full weight of the law' protecting these communities, it doesn't matter how many times Starmer and the rest of the bellends say ;far-right EDL blah blah, many of the protesters were women, angry because they are frightened for the safety of their children, having single young illegal migrants wandering the streets with fuck all to do ogling young school girls while getting 3 meals a day in the comfort of a 'Holiday Inn' it's a fucking big long holiday for them.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 5, 2024 12:07:59 GMT
Stop Press
The Bibby Stockholm that is to be decommissioned as a place to house asylum seekers is to be recommissioned to house people protesting about asylum seekers because the jails are full.
Well I hold my hands up it’s not true I made it up but nothing would surprise me.
For clarity I believe anyone rioting should be prosecuted.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 5, 2024 12:23:47 GMT
Stop PressThe Bibby Stockholm that is to be decommissioned as a place to house asylum seekers is to be recommissioned to house people protesting about asylum seekers because the jails are full.Well I hold my hands up it’s not true I made it up but nothing would surprise me.
For clarity I believe anyone rioting should be prosecuted. The Bibby Stockholm will be only place to protect asylum seekers, they'll all be begging to get on it, let's hope they send the footage back on their iphones to their mates waiting to jump in the dinghies, Rwanda was a deterrent that put them off until Starmer put the Kibosh on it, I think the people of the UK have had no choice but to send out their own message to the migrant crossings because Starmer has no intentions of stopping them. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 5, 2024 12:35:06 GMT
Actually the BiBi seems quite nice from what I've read. You get 3 meals a day, a gymnasium and a recreation area (table tennis and stuff). I can imagine that would be quite nice for a few weeks.
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