|
Post by sandypine on Aug 10, 2024 8:32:06 GMT
Perhaps his government's actions in the first four weeks foretold exactly what many predicted would be the result of his government. Take from Baby Boomer pensioners, remove all deterrents to small boat arrivals, effective amnesty for 100,000 illegal arrivals, no clear action on small boats crossings but clear plans to cater for many more arrivals and rescind Tory plans to decrease legal immigration. These are not fixed opinionated points these are what they have done. They are your insinuated and over opinionated versions of what has been done. You language proves you totally lack objectivity. You do not have to prove your clear and obvious single minded political approach to the board, you have already previously exposed your bias. Do you not actually say anything other than dismiss everything as opinion. I lack objectivity with Labour I would not say otherwise but they could prove their critics wrong by doing things in a different manner, what they have done is proved their critics right by their own actions.
|
|
|
Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 8:35:23 GMT
Starmer has the appearance of a mild-mannered gentleman but don't be fooled by the looks. Underneath there is a real nasty piece of tyrant. Imho there are a few circuits fused upstairs. There is something about his expression and mannerisms that tells me there isn't really anyone inside He is an extremely low quality mechanical man and doesn't look remotely alive. That he could get to his station despite looking and acting like an animated mannequin is a reflection of ho deeply dysfunctional our political class are now yes, this is all bad news
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 8:54:25 GMT
Insinuations as usual^^ Islam the religion is unlikely to be defeated because it is a cult that relies upon Self Indoctrination every single day. Anyone who understands Psychological Affirmations will fully understand my comment. Until Muslims understand the bottom line which is that learnt emotional feelings i.e. hormonal reactions, when taken to extremes can and will dominate the Logical Brain, which is the reverse of the normal workings of the mind, where logic dominates and feeling / hormonal reactions help in the quick reactions to danger. They will keep going along their merry way. Education on the above reality might help to bring Islam into the 21cent where beliefs are held personally but are not deliberately imposed upon others.
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 8:56:32 GMT
They are your insinuated and over opinionated versions of what has been done. You language proves you totally lack objectivity. You do not have to prove your clear and obvious single minded political approach to the board, you have already previously exposed your bias. Do you not actually say anything other than dismiss everything as opinion. I lack objectivity with Labour I would not say otherwise but they could prove their critics wrong by doing things in a different manner, what they have done is proved their critics right by their own actions. I point out opinion for what it is. Don't you understand that? Give Labour a chance, lets see what the overall outcome is.
|
|
|
Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 10, 2024 9:32:51 GMT
Starmer has the appearance of a mild-mannered gentleman but don't be fooled by the looks. Underneath there is a real nasty piece of tyrant. It does seem that way, Starmer's authoritarian streak is gunning for censorship. This looks like a sinister move and frankly is becoming Orwellian. I read somewhere, that if you are going to post something that is 'legal yet harmful' the rozzers can still knock at your door. Starmer's authoritarian streak looks like it is something out of the Kim-Jong Un handbook. He's a lawyer bastard. They are a particular breed of bastard that I would not think is like North Korea. Lawyers fuck everyone over. It's a me, me and me profession. If you have ever had a clash with a British lawyer bastard you will understand me. They try and cheat everyone.
|
|
|
Post by witchfinder on Aug 10, 2024 10:03:08 GMT
What has happened to the rioters ? ... where have they gone ? ... as that old phrase goes "all quiet on the western front".
The co-ordination of the police, the CPS, intelligence, the Home Office and others all led by Keir Starmer has seen them off, its been a successfull joint effort.
So instead of WHY SIR KEIR HAS IT WRONG, the reality is that Sir Keir got it right, with a lot of help and assistance from our police forces, the Crown Prosecution Service and the courts.
Very swift justice - no light sentencing - maximum jail terms - the menacing threat of "we are coming for you" and "expect a knock on your door", has seemingly frightened them all off, closed them down and brought peace back to our streets.
Yet here we are, people making complete fools of themselves, blaming Keir Starmer, a man who has been Prime Minister for 5 weeks, leading a governing party which has been out of office for 14 years.
Meanwhile the opposition Conservative Party, presided of record levels of immigration, and no matter how they tryed, could not stop the boat crossings, for which I personally believe is not entirely the Tories fault, but the narrative that its somehow Keir Starmers fault is just plain ridiculous.
I think a lot of families across this country this weekend are in shock, they thought their "mummy's boy" and their "little darlings" would get a slap on the wrists, but the thugs who think they are tough, got a real dose of tough punishment.
Its the only way to deal with them - well done to our justice system, and to the police and all who keep us safe and uphold the rule of law.
|
|
|
Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 10:13:17 GMT
What has happened to the rioters ? ... where have they gone ? ... as that old phrase goes "all quiet on the western front". Hopefully the rioters have gone for now. The movement is doing the sensible thing and not presenting an excuse. This needs to be organised and orderly I would suggest things like vigils outside local government and civil service offices. The draconian legislation will come in any case (this guy is a turd), but the case against it is weakened by violence. By presenting no excuse you are forcing him to act without merit (which he is now doing)
|
|
|
Post by ratcliff on Aug 10, 2024 13:27:42 GMT
Do you not actually say anything other than dismiss everything as opinion. I lack objectivity with Labour I would not say otherwise but they could prove their critics wrong by doing things in a different manner, what they have done is proved their critics right by their own actions. I point out opinion for what it is. Don't you understand that? Give Labour a chance, lets see what the overall outcome is. They have had a chance by being elected ( albeit that 80% of the electorate didn't vote for them) and blew it The chancellor ( who is NOT an economist - she merely has an economics degree) pretends that there is a £20bn unexpected ''black hole'' (an impossibility given the OBR) chooses to ignore that monster pay rises for the public sector , Millibands death spiral to net zero and vast cost nationalisations account for a very large proportion of their un-costed spending immediately sets about cancelling a £200 pa payment to the elderly on under £11000 pa (who cannot suddenly pick up he slack with extra hours or getting a job in the first place like untaxed working age spongers on far more ) That abject meanness blows any ''chance'' they might have had straight out of the water
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Aug 10, 2024 13:34:59 GMT
The problem for the anti excessive immigration protesters now is that any protest , violent or not , will be met by a Muslim /leftie rent a mob determined to make it violent and support by bias police.
|
|
|
Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 13:58:55 GMT
The problem for the anti excessive immigration protesters now is that any protest , violent or not , will be met by a Muslim /leftie rent a mob determined to make it violent and support by bias police. The situation requires discipline. It is not impossible. It is, for instance, very hard to paint a group of people who are sitting down in orderly lines as aggressors. A higher level of order and discipline would also be very intimidating to the slovenly perverts in the various government-backed mobs
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 14:04:37 GMT
What has happened to the rioters ? ... where have they gone ? ... as that old phrase goes "all quiet on the western front". Hopefully the rioters have gone for now. The movement is doing the sensible thing and not presenting an excuse. This needs to be organised and orderly I would suggest things like vigils outside local government and civil service offices. The draconian legislation will come in any case (this guy is a turd), but the case against it is weakened by violence. By presenting no excuse you are forcing him to act without merit (which he is now doing) Rightist opinion tend to do more harm than good.
|
|
|
Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 14:09:45 GMT
Hopefully the rioters have gone for now. The movement is doing the sensible thing and not presenting an excuse. This needs to be organised and orderly I would suggest things like vigils outside local government and civil service offices. The draconian legislation will come in any case (this guy is a turd), but the case against it is weakened by violence. By presenting no excuse you are forcing him to act without merit (which he is now doing) Rightist opinion tend to do more harm than good. Imho, people like yourself have vandalised a country to social collapse
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 14:11:20 GMT
I point out opinion for what it is. Don't you understand that? Give Labour a chance, lets see what the overall outcome is. They have had a chance by being elected ( albeit that 80% of the electorate didn't vote for them) and blew it The chancellor ( who is NOT an economist - she merely has an economics degree) pretends that there is a £20bn unexpected ''black hole'' (an impossibility given the OBR) chooses to ignore that monster pay rises for the public sector , Millibands death spiral to net zero and vast cost nationalisations account for a very large proportion of their un-costed spending immediately sets about cancelling a £200 pa payment to the elderly on under £11000 pa (who cannot suddenly pick up he slack with extra hours or getting a job in the first place like untaxed working age spongers on far more ) That abject meanness blows any ''chance'' they might have had straight out of the water The government can't fix the crap left by nearly 14 years of right of centre Tory governments overnight. So your opinions at this stage add up to a big zero even if you do think you have a great crystal ball.
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 14:20:58 GMT
Rightist opinion tend to do more harm than good. Imho, people like yourself have vandalised a country to social collapse IMO people like yourself who have probably voted right of centre, sometimes hard-right Tory governments into office allowing them to dominate some 70% of parliamentary power since 1951, are to blame for trashing the country. But are very good at 'Labour are always to blame' thus enabling themselves to totally delude themselves.
|
|
|
Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2024 14:26:33 GMT
They have had a chance by being elected ( albeit that 80% of the electorate didn't vote for them) and blew it The chancellor ( who is NOT an economist - she merely has an economics degree) pretends that there is a £20bn unexpected ''black hole'' (an impossibility given the OBR) chooses to ignore that monster pay rises for the public sector , Millibands death spiral to net zero and vast cost nationalisations account for a very large proportion of their un-costed spending immediately sets about cancelling a £200 pa payment to the elderly on under £11000 pa (who cannot suddenly pick up he slack with extra hours or getting a job in the first place like untaxed working age spongers on far more ) That abject meanness blows any ''chance'' they might have had straight out of the water The government can't fix the crap left by nearly 14 years of right of centre Tory governments overnight. So your opinions at this stage add up to a big zero even if you do think you ahave a great crystal ball. Be quiet you old fool, Labour have hardly been in power for a month, so far they've robbed old age pensioners, caused the biggest riots seen since the 70s 80s unrest, destabilized the peace in Norther Ireland, threatening to caused environmental vandalism by building thousands of houses on greenbelt countryside, upset Elon Musk, and this is just for starters.
|
|