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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 14:32:01 GMT
Quite so Vin. I wonder, has there ever been a less popular prime minister four weeks after talking office? Yes one of your Darlings Liz trust Tou·ché, well done! |
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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 14:34:53 GMT
The government can't fix the crap left by nearly 14 years of right of centre Tory governments overnight. So your opinions at this stage add up to a big zero even if you do think you ahave a great crystal ball. Be quiet you old fool, Labour have hardly been in power for a month, so far they've robbed old age pensioners, caused the biggest riots seen since the 70s 80s unrest, destabilized the peace in Norther Ireland, threatening to caused environmental vandalism by building thousands of houses on greenbelt countryside, upset Elon Musk, and this is just for starters. Stop blabbering your idiot, lets see how it all pans out. |
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 10, 2024 14:37:47 GMT
They have had a chance by being elected ( albeit that 80% of the electorate didn't vote for them) and blew it The chancellor ( who is NOT an economist - she merely has an economics degree) pretends that there is a £20bn unexpected ''black hole'' (an impossibility given the OBR) chooses to ignore that monster pay rises for the public sector , Millibands death spiral to net zero and vast cost nationalisations account for a very large proportion of their un-costed spending immediately sets about cancelling a £200 pa payment to the elderly on under £11000 pa (who cannot suddenly pick up he slack with extra hours or getting a job in the first place like untaxed working age spongers on far more ) That abject meanness blows any ''chance'' they might have had straight out of the water The government can't fix the crap left by nearly 14 years of right of centre Tory governments overnight. So your opinions at this stage add up to a big zero even if you do think you have a great crystal ball. Do you ever actually read a post before you c&p one of your standard knee jerk ''it's all the Torie/Mrs T's /The rights fault highly subjective personal opinion posts ? |
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 14:42:36 GMT
Imho, people like yourself have vandalised a country to social collapse IMO people like yourself who have probably voted right of centre, sometimes hard-right As a simple demonstration of how brain-dead your rhetoric is, during that period immigration has not moved downwards. You would have thought the hard right, given control, would at least reduce immigration. Whatever people imagined was in power, it is clear that it was never in reality the hard right |
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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 14:58:37 GMT
The government can't fix the crap left by nearly 14 years of right of centre Tory governments overnight. So your opinions at this stage add up to a big zero even if you do think you have a great crystal ball. Do you ever actually read a post before you c&p one of your standard knee jerk ''it's all the Torie/Mrs T's /The rights fault highly subjective personal opinion posts ? You started your post with "They have had a chance by being elected ( albeit that 80% of the electorate didn't vote for them) and blew it". So already "had blown it". You damned your post from your opening statement. So I had no reason to believe that the rest of you post would be anything other than more biased clap trap. I anticipated another nonsense reply, and got one. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 15:08:42 GMT
Quite so Vin. I wonder, has there ever been a less popular prime minister four weeks after talking office? One thing is certain and that is that Rightist started their attack on Starmer before the election and doubled down on it after the election. I don't think I have ever read so much premature fixed opinionated bitterness against any government than that which I've read on this forum. Proving of course that there are so many fixed opinionated Rightists at work on this forum. The reason Starmer is unpopular, even with Labour voters, is because he's an inexperienced authoritarian socialist, he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 15:12:13 GMT
IMO people like yourself who have probably voted right of centre, sometimes hard-right As a simple demonstration of how brain-dead your rhetoric is, during that period immigration has not moved downwards. You would have thought the hard right, given control, would at least reduce immigration. Whatever people imagined was in power, it is clear that it was never in reality the hard rightHard right referred to the worst PM this country has had i.e. Thatcher. !979 to 1990. IIRC Muslim immigration into the UK happened in the 1980s. But my point was not part of the immigration problem, it was about the Tory rubbishing of the UK economy over the last 70 years. So your "simple demonstration" is simply wrong. It seem that you are the one that is rhetorically speaking 'brain dead'. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 10, 2024 15:15:17 GMT
One thing is certain and that is that Rightist started their attack on Starmer before the election and doubled down on it after the election. I don't think I have ever read so much premature fixed opinionated bitterness against any government than that which I've read on this forum. Proving of course that there are so many fixed opinionated Rightists at work on this forum. he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. More unproven garbage opinion from a Rightist. Why don't you try and post some objectively based comment? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 15:22:13 GMT
The reason Starmer is unpopular, even with Labour voters, is because he's an inexperienced authoritarian socialist, he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. More unproven garbage opinion from a Rightist. Why don't you try and post some objectively based comment? Hilarious. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 10, 2024 15:43:34 GMT
One thing is certain and that is that Rightist started their attack on Starmer before the election and doubled down on it after the election. I don't think I have ever read so much premature fixed opinionated bitterness against any government than that which I've read on this forum. Proving of course that there are so many fixed opinionated Rightists at work on this forum. The reason Starmer is unpopular, even with Labour voters, is because he's an inexperienced authoritarian socialist, he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. Maybe Truss but at least she had the grace to resign. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2024 16:00:08 GMT
One thing is certain and that is that Rightist started their attack on Starmer before the election and doubled down on it after the election. I don't think I have ever read so much premature fixed opinionated bitterness against any government than that which I've read on this forum. Proving of course that there are so many fixed opinionated Rightists at work on this forum. The reason Starmer is unpopular, even with Labour voters, is because he's an inexperienced authoritarian socialist, he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. We should hold him to his GE manifesto pledge ....... Smash the trafficking gangs..
Ok so when?
He's adamant he's not go to smash any traffickers, he's adamant he's not stopping the illegal boats, so what does he intend to do when it's fever pitch, lock half of the country up?
He's completely out of his depth, he hasn't got a clue how to deal with anything he doesn't agree with, he's right and everyone else is wrong, that's how he intends to govern, well on his own head be it, ignore the concerns of the people at your peril.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 16:03:24 GMT
The reason Starmer is unpopular, even with Labour voters, is because he's an inexperienced authoritarian socialist, he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. Maybe Truss but at least she had the grace to resign. I'm convinced Truss would have been a good PM, her biggest problem was the fact that the 1922 committee wanted Sunak, so they ignored the members and forced her out. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 16:22:32 GMT
The reason Starmer is unpopular, even with Labour voters, is because he's an inexperienced authoritarian socialist, he is proving to be an autocrat not a democrat. He has been asked time and again if he will address the concerns of people who are worried about the effects mass immigration is having on this country and he absolutely refuses to answer, which is why his approval rating continues to fall. I say again, just weeks into a new government has there ever been a more unpopular prime minister? I certainly cant think of one. We should hold him to his GE manifesto pledge ....... Smash the trafficking gangs.. Ok so when? He's adamant he's not go to smash any traffickers, he's adamant he's not stopping the illegal boats, so what does he intend to do when it's fever pitch, lock half of the country up? He's completely out of his depth, he hasn't got a clue how to deal with anything he doesn't agree with, he's right and everyone else is wrong, that's how he intends to govern, well on his own head be it, ignore the concerns of the people at your peril.
Indeed we should, manifesto pledges should be enshrined in law. Unfortunately politicians are allowed to make any pre-election claim only to quickly forget them after the election. In spite of Starmers bullshit about 'smashing the gangs' I think it was always a given that he would be very relaxed about mass immigration, the EU and net zero, which will ensure this government become the most unpopular government in living memory. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 10, 2024 16:29:16 GMT
We should hold him to his GE manifesto pledge ....... Smash the trafficking gangs.. Ok so when? He's adamant he's not go to smash any traffickers, he's adamant he's not stopping the illegal boats, so what does he intend to do when it's fever pitch, lock half of the country up? He's completely out of his depth, he hasn't got a clue how to deal with anything he doesn't agree with, he's right and everyone else is wrong, that's how he intends to govern, well on his own head be it, ignore the concerns of the people at your peril.
Indeed we should, manifesto pledges should be enshrined in law. Unfortunately politicians are allowed to make any pre-election claim only to quickly forget them after the election. In spite of Starmers bullshit about 'smashing the gangs' I think it was always a given that Starmer would be very relaxed about mass immigration, the EU and net zero, which will ensure this government become the most unpopular government in living memory. I might make a prediction here, a lot of the Labour candidates were young, one I saw looked liked he just left school. Five years will fly by, and those young ones will still be young, they'll have got the taste of power and all the perks that go with it, and they wont want to lose it, when they see the mood of the people, and the chance they might be kicked out at the next GE, I think they might start actually listening to the people. If Labour win the next GE they know Starmer will not be leader of the Labour party, so they might start standing up to him, they will want at least another Labour term, and to be honest they will get hammered at the next Local Elections.
The next GE Labour lose I doubt they'll ever see power again,
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Post by Orac on Aug 10, 2024 16:53:20 GMT
As a simple demonstration of how brain-dead your rhetoric is, during that period immigration has not moved downwards. You would have thought the hard right, given control, would at least reduce immigration. Whatever people imagined was in power, it is clear that it was never in reality the hard rightHard right referred to the worst PM this country has had i.e. Thatcher. !979 to 1990. IIRC Muslim immigration into the UK happened in the 1980s. But my point was not part of the immigration problem, it was about the Tory rubbishing of the UK economy over the last 70 years. So your "simple demonstration" is simply wrong. It seem that you are the one that is rhetorically speaking 'brain dead'. You seem to be talking about conservatives, not the hard right |
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