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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 8, 2024 9:20:02 GMT
Nope, redirect some of the ever increasing funding of the police and use the money to improve the environment that was producing violence in the first place. = defund the police . Crime Prevention is also part of the Police's remit. All The Best
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Post by Bentley on Aug 8, 2024 9:30:11 GMT
Crime Prevention is also part of the Police's remit. All The Best Which is reduced if you refund them . Good point .
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 8, 2024 10:05:41 GMT
If you want to defund the police - then re-elect the Tories They did a good job of defunding the police over the past 14 years.
Same as they have defunded the whole criminal justice system, which is why there is a colossal courts backlog, and why theres a crisis in our prisons.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 8, 2024 11:51:30 GMT
"On June 6, 2020, 14 police officers were injured in London after a Black Lives Matter protest turned violent. One female officer suffered a broken collar bone, broken ribs and a collapsed lung after a protester threw a bicycle at her horse, causing it to bolt. The next day, at another Black Lives Matter protest in London, a further eight officers were injured. One was pictured with blood pouring down his face. Then, two days after that, Sir Keir Starmer chose to publish a photo of himself, solemnly taking the knee." www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2024/08/08/keir-starmer-elon-musk-two-tier-far-right-riots/Two-tier has form on this.
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 8, 2024 11:59:52 GMT
Two Tier Justice is a natural consequence of Two Tier Policing.
BBC News Northwest is reporting that the 58 year-old man from Southport given the three years sentence was convicted for punching a police officer in the face. As you note the Muslim thugs who attacked and punched three police officers in Manchester Airport are still at large. There seems to be no great haste to bring them to justice court, in fact the authorities are probably hoping that incident will be quietly forgotten.
Because has Andy Burnham said its not clear cut on all sides a investigation is going on The thuggish Assault on the police officers is completely different from a drunken affray and riot in what a police officer got injured in. Isn't Andy Burnham a mere mayor? Mayor's have nothing to do with policing or charging decisions , nor should they
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Post by thomas on Aug 8, 2024 12:11:09 GMT
If you want to defund the police - then re-elect the Tories They did a good job of defunding the police over the past 14 years. Same as they have defunded the whole criminal justice system, which is why there is a colossal courts backlog, and why theres a crisis in our prisons. ..and why did the tories defund the police , and public services in general , while in scotland the snp administrations had to make cost cutting exercises , because of the mess the previous labour government left both administrations from 2007 to 2010 respectively. we had £30 billion of debt crippling public services in scotland alone foisted on us by the last labour administration , while similarly in England , and uk wide , around £300 billion in total. last year in your own country , NHS serivces spent £500 million servicing Labour Party PFI interest , while all you lot ever do is crow about tory and snp mismanagement of the Scottish and English economies. For the party that left a note saying no money left , and has been a disaster economically for every council , city and region it has ever ran , not to mention scotland and uk wide , I wouldn't waffle about defunding sid. you might open a can of worms..... morningstaronline.co.uk/article/editorial-private-investment-one-cause-crisis-public-services-we-dont-want-any-more But the ongoing PFI scandal raises another question. So-called partnerships with the private sector, championed by the last Labour government and promised by the next one, are an enormous drain on public resources. Contracts entered into over two decades ago place an ongoing burden on councils, hospitals and schools. NHS trusts spent £500 million in interest payments on PFI contracts in 2021 — equivalent to the salaries of 15,000 nurses when our health service faces chronic staff shortages
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Post by thomas on Aug 8, 2024 12:20:03 GMT
Because has Andy Burnham said its not clear cut on all sides a investigation is going on The thuggish Assault on the police officers is completely different from a drunken affray and riot in what a police officer got injured in. Isn't Andy Burnham a mere mayor? Mayor's have nothing to do with policing or charging decisions , nor should they who the fuck is Andy Burnham as though he is some light we all have to listen to ? a failed former health secretary so ridiculed he is reduced politically to the equivalent of a Scottish lord provost .? I thought starmer was trying to keep Burnham out the limelight with his disastrous track record , not use him as the go to barometer of all things trivial. Lefty obviously still hasn't got the message.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 8, 2024 12:24:47 GMT
If you want to defund the police - then re-elect the Tories They did a good job of defunding the police over the past 14 years. Same as they have defunded the whole criminal justice system, which is why there is a colossal courts backlog, and why theres a crisis in our prisons. The Tories have been sacked, Labour are the ones in power now, it is their job to sort things out and build more prisons. So far they're back to ignoring Salafist Islamist thugs, welcoming illegal immigrants and closing down facilities like the Bibby Stockholm.
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Post by thomas on Aug 8, 2024 12:31:12 GMT
If you want to defund the police - then re-elect the Tories They did a good job of defunding the police over the past 14 years. Same as they have defunded the whole criminal justice system, which is why there is a colossal courts backlog, and why theres a crisis in our prisons. The Tories have been sacked, Labour are the ones in power now, it is their job to sort things out and build more prisons. So far they're back to ignoring Salafist Islamist thugs, welcoming illegal immigrants and closing down facilities like the Bibby Stockholm. all you heard during the new labour years in governance was how its all thatchers fault, this time around , it will be no different . everything is the tories fault. a month in at the start of a new labour government , and we are witnessing a complete breakdown in law and order , while sid screams about bad tories and far right. labours speciality is leaving ticking time bombs for others to deal with , and then moaning about how that is dealt with. The Glasgow council workers equal pay dispute is a prime example of the duplicity of these bar stewards in action. labour have been in charge of Wales for a quarter of a century , and in many areas , Wales is the most badly run nation of the uk. I fail to see how them running the uk at Westminster will be any different. All we can do for now is sit back and listen to excuse after excuse of labour policy failure and inability to get to grips with common peoples thoughts and feelings on the major subjects. Whatever the public view , labour will oppose it.
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 8, 2024 15:24:09 GMT
Because has Andy Burnham said its not clear cut on all sides a investigation is going on The thuggish Assault on the police officers is completely different from a drunken affray and riot in what a police officer got injured in. Isn't Andy Burnham a mere mayor? Mayor's have nothing to do with policing or charging decisions , nor should they Of course mayors have a roll in policing
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 17:26:43 GMT
Here's a conundrum for the "two tier policing" conspiracy nutters: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dg32jxzx5oThere's a man there with an Islamic origin name, who is not white, and had been charged with Violent Disorder, and sentenced to 20 months in prison. Hmmm, bet the cogs are turning now. All The Best
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 17:36:52 GMT
Here's a conundrum for the "two tier policing" conspiracy nutters: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dg32jxzx5oThere's a man there with an Islamic origin name, who is not white, and had been charged with Violent Disorder, and sentenced to 20 months in prison. Hmmm, bet the cogs are turning now. All The Best Then you are not au fair with what two tier means. It means there is a tendency to treat some people through application of the law with greater severity and more often than another group for the same crimes. We have spent 50 years listening to how ethnic minorities have been subject to two tier policing now it is denied as existing just because it is now slanted against white people.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 18:05:09 GMT
Here's a conundrum for the "two tier policing" conspiracy nutters: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dg32jxzx5oThere's a man there with an Islamic origin name, who is not white, and had been charged with Violent Disorder, and sentenced to 20 months in prison. Hmmm, bet the cogs are turning now. All The Best Then you are not au fair with what two tier means. It means there is a tendency to treat some people through application of the law with greater severity and more often than another group for the same crimes. We have spent 50 years listening to how ethnic minorities have been subject to two tier policing now it is denied as existing just because it is now slanted against white people. Indeed. And this case proves that is NOT happening. All The Best
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 18:51:19 GMT
Then you are not au fair with what two tier means. It means there is a tendency to treat some people through application of the law with greater severity and more often than another group for the same crimes. We have spent 50 years listening to how ethnic minorities have been subject to two tier policing now it is denied as existing just because it is now slanted against white people. Indeed. And this case proves that is NOT happening. All The Best No it shows that like stop and search one white bloke stopped and searched would not negate the preponderance of black people stopped and searched. It does not work like that as you well know.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 19:43:56 GMT
Indeed. And this case proves that is NOT happening. All The Best No it shows that like stop and search one white bloke stopped and searched would not negate the preponderance of black people stopped and searched. It does not work like that as you well know. So, are you now admitting that Stop & Search is racially perjorative? All The Best
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