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Post by om15 on Aug 7, 2024 11:55:00 GMT
Three pissed up Scousers have been jailed, self righteous prosecution and police statements unctuously tell us that there is no mercy, but only if you are a Scouser apparently, the frenzied Pakistani who repeated punched a policeman and a policewomen have not been even charged and are strolling about quite freely, they might even have been at the Muslim Pub Riot the other evening, who knows.
Here is the Two Tier Statement
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 7, 2024 12:05:50 GMT
"A man has been charged for possessing an offensive weapon during a demonstration in Birmingham after TV footage showed him carrying a sword 46-year-old Shehraz Sarwar will appear before the Birmingham magistrates' court today" x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1821119546247266794?t=pmDVEv9eswEdBVr3_EK3Pg&s=19"Informed by over 100 witness testimonies, the research found that police officers disproportionately used excessive force and kettling at BLM protests, mostly against Black protestors — many of whom were under 18 — and, on some occasions, Black independent legal observers. Excessive force including horse charges — one of which rendered a woman unconscious — baton charges, pepper spray and violent arrest was “commonly reported and well-evidenced”, the research found. The report also concluded that the police reneged on its duty of care towards sick or injured BLM protestors, selectively enforced Covid-19 regulations and failed to keep the public safe from far-right and racist harassment and violence." novaramedia.com/2020/11/12/policing-of-uk-blm-protests-was-institutionally-racist-new-report-finds/#:~:text=12%20November%202020&text=Informed%20by%20over%20100%20witness,occasions%2C%20Black%20independent%20legal%20observers.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 12:06:47 GMT
Every time you make an excuse for it and don't condemn it for the racist violence it quite clearly is. All The Best I can condemn the violence but also consider that it is the result of an underlying malaise and discontent within the community. Just as the poll tax riots were, the Toxteth riots, the St John's riot etc etc. You have come to a conclusion that it is racist violence and as such there is no right for anyone to consider any other root cause.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 12:06:49 GMT
Three pissed up Scousers have been jailed, self righteous prosecution and police statements unctuously tell us that there is no mercy, but only if you are a Scouser apparently, the frenzied Pakistani who repeated punched a policeman and a policewomen have not been even charged and are strolling about quite freely, they might even have been at the Muslim Pub Riot the other evening, who knows. Here is the Two Tier Statement I assume you have a direct link to that? No, of course you don't. Because it is a pack of lies. There's an out and out lie at the end of each sentence. You know, I used to be as against any kind of Immigration as a lot of people here seem to be; I am sure there's at least one poster here who could confirm that - we had many clashes on other forums. I have had direct, physical threats levelled at me by UAF, including burning my house down with me and my family in it. The thing that did most to turn me away from that mindset was the obvious (and I mean so fucking obvious a ten-year dead-dog could see them) outright lies. Like the post above. I have many grave concerns about immigration - and all of them are completely dwarfed by my concerns of letting lies form the bedrock of our socio-political discourse. If you have to post so obvious a lie you already know you have lost the argument. Furthermore, you do yourself a disservice, because you would literally have to be as thick as pig-shit to think anyone is going to be stupid enough to believe that lie. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 12:09:22 GMT
Every time you make an excuse for it and don't condemn it for the racist violence it quite clearly is. All The Best I can condemn the violence but also consider that it is the result of an underlying malaise and discontent within the community. Just as the poll tax riots were, the Toxteth riots, the St John's riot etc etc. You have come to a conclusion that it is racist violence and as such there is no right for anyone to consider any other root cause. Indeed. But you think the malaise is "letting foreigners in". When in reality the malaise is "not standing up to racism". All The Best
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2024 12:33:44 GMT
Three pissed up Scousers have been jailed, self righteous prosecution and police statements unctuously tell us that there is no mercy, but only if you are a Scouser apparently, the frenzied Pakistani who repeated punched a policeman and a policewomen have not been even charged and are strolling about quite freely, they might even have been at the Muslim Pub Riot the other evening, who knows. Here is the Two Tier Statement Two Tier Justice is a natural consequence of Two Tier Policing.
BBC News Northwest is reporting that the 58 year-old man from Southport given the three years sentence was convicted for punching a police officer in the face. As you note the Muslim thugs who attacked and punched three police officers in Manchester Airport are still at large. There seems to be no great haste to bring them to justice court, in fact the authorities are probably hoping that incident will be quietly forgotten.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 12:38:32 GMT
I can condemn the violence but also consider that it is the result of an underlying malaise and discontent within the community. Just as the poll tax riots were, the Toxteth riots, the St John's riot etc etc. You have come to a conclusion that it is racist violence and as such there is no right for anyone to consider any other root cause. Indeed. But you think the malaise is "letting foreigners in". When in reality the malaise is "not standing up to racism". All The Best The malaise is in the democratic process where communities are overwhelmed and imposed upon against their will and with no by your leave. It matters little if the whole country is racist as if they say no more immigration that is a democratic wish clearly expressed by the majority of voters including Labour voters. You may wish a certain thing and others may not but what you have to do is get some form of democratic mandate for what you plan to do. Labour's plans were stop the boats by smashing the gangs and reduce immigration but always stopping the boats. The illegal immigration continues apace with no indication how it will be dealt with other than letting more in and spreading them across the country. The legal migration is seen to be on the rise and so far Labour have made the rise easier. Standing up to racism may be a laudable aim but in a democracy 'racists' have a vote and a right to see the policies they advocate followed if that mandate is secured.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 7, 2024 17:23:53 GMT
Indeed. But you think the malaise is "letting foreigners in". When in reality the malaise is "not standing up to racism". All The Best The malaise is in the democratic process where communities are overwhelmed and imposed upon against their will and with no by your leave. It matters little if the whole country is racist as if they say no more immigration that is a democratic wish clearly expressed by the majority of voters including Labour voters. You may wish a certain thing and others may not but what you have to do is get some form of democratic mandate for what you plan to do. Labour's plans were stop the boats by smashing the gangs and reduce immigration but always stopping the boats. The illegal immigration continues apace with no indication how it will be dealt with other than letting more in and spreading them across the country. The legal migration is seen to be on the rise and so far Labour have made the rise easier. Standing up to racism may be a laudable aim but in a democracy 'racists' have a vote and a right to see the policies they advocate followed if that mandate is secured. We've been through this. It is not a Democratic Process. The big give away here is that since the 19070's regardless of which party is in power, nothing actually tangible has been done to curtail Immigration. The importation of cheap labour, to depress wage bargaining, and job security, and to drive up living costs are ALL part of an Economic Process. Until we have a party in office willing to change our relationship to Capitalism then NOTHING AT ALL will change. Don't look to Farage, he made his money playing those Economic Processes, he will do nothing at all to change them. All The Best
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Post by sandypine on Aug 7, 2024 19:14:22 GMT
The malaise is in the democratic process where communities are overwhelmed and imposed upon against their will and with no by your leave. It matters little if the whole country is racist as if they say no more immigration that is a democratic wish clearly expressed by the majority of voters including Labour voters. You may wish a certain thing and others may not but what you have to do is get some form of democratic mandate for what you plan to do. Labour's plans were stop the boats by smashing the gangs and reduce immigration but always stopping the boats. The illegal immigration continues apace with no indication how it will be dealt with other than letting more in and spreading them across the country. The legal migration is seen to be on the rise and so far Labour have made the rise easier. Standing up to racism may be a laudable aim but in a democracy 'racists' have a vote and a right to see the policies they advocate followed if that mandate is secured. We've been through this. It is not a Democratic Process. The big give away here is that since the 19070's regardless of which party is in power, nothing actually tangible has been done to curtail Immigration. The importation of cheap labour, to depress wage bargaining, and job security, and to drive up living costs are ALL part of an Economic Process. Until we have a party in office willing to change our relationship to Capitalism then NOTHING AT ALL will change. Don't look to Farage, he made his money playing those Economic Processes, he will do nothing at all to change them. All The Best Of course we have but restricting immigration is oft opposed as 'standing up to racism' and the end result is those that 'stand up to racism' get their way as the politicians are too worried about being called racists. Quoting 'real reasons' why people do things plays into that outlook and you become part of the problem. A government's duty is to regulate and in a way they stated they would regulate to the electorate on seeking their mandate. It is not Labour's fault that the Tories spent 14 years basically making a grand cock of it but it is Labour's fault if they now give the impression that it is carry on regardless in the same old way. The Southport stabbings were a catalyst and a flashpoint that came in Labour's view far too soon.
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 7, 2024 20:21:40 GMT
Three pissed up Scousers have been jailed, self righteous prosecution and police statements unctuously tell us that there is no mercy, but only if you are a Scouser apparently, the frenzied Pakistani who repeated punched a policeman and a policewomen have not been even charged and are strolling about quite freely, they might even have been at the Muslim Pub Riot the other evening, who knows. Here is the Two Tier Statement Two Tier Justice is a natural consequence of Two Tier Policing.
BBC News Northwest is reporting that the 58 year-old man from Southport given the three years sentence was convicted for punching a police officer in the face. As you note the Muslim thugs who attacked and punched three police officers in Manchester Airport are still at large. There seems to be no great haste to bring them to justice court, in fact the authorities are probably hoping that incident will be quietly forgotten.
Because has Andy Burnham said its not clear cut on all sides a investigation is going on The thuggish Assault on the police officers is completely different from a drunken affray and riot in what a police officer got injured in.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 7, 2024 21:13:02 GMT
Two Tier Justice is a natural consequence of Two Tier Policing.
BBC News Northwest is reporting that the 58 year-old man from Southport given the three years sentence was convicted for punching a police officer in the face. As you note the Muslim thugs who attacked and punched three police officers in Manchester Airport are still at large. There seems to be no great haste to bring them to justice court, in fact the authorities are probably hoping that incident will be quietly forgotten.
Because has Andy Burnham said its not clear cut on all sides a investigation is going on The thuggish Assault on the police officers is completely different from a drunken affray and riot in what a police officer got injured in. Pleased you have now decided to listen to Burnham which you weren’t at the outset of the incident at Manchester airport and now recognise that the thugs were the ones assaulting the police officers.
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Post by see2 on Aug 8, 2024 5:18:59 GMT
Three pissed up Scousers have been jailed, self righteous prosecution and police statements unctuously tell us that there is no mercy, but only if you are a Scouser apparently, the frenzied Pakistani who repeated punched a policeman and a policewomen have not been even charged and are strolling about quite freely, they might even have been at the Muslim Pub Riot the other evening, who knows. Here is the Two Tier Statement So where are the facts surrounding this case?
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Post by see2 on Aug 8, 2024 5:27:34 GMT
So if that is what you believe what do you propose should be done? Defund the police? Wasn't that the cry? Nope, redirect some of the ever increasing funding of the police and use the money to improve the environment that was producing violence in the first place.
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Post by see2 on Aug 8, 2024 5:32:26 GMT
His comment "elite identitarianism – with its crusades against whiteness and white privilege – has been a recruiting sergeant for a white-identitarian backlash."Is complete and utter hogwash, that exposes his extremely shallow and biased thinking. As for your "denigrate him". My point was made in all honesty, he denigrates himself with his exaggerated comment. Have another go. You failed to debate the words and yet again resorted with nothing other than your own biased opinion about HIM. He made unproven opinionated comments that people like yourself lap up. Where's his proof?
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Post by Bentley on Aug 8, 2024 8:38:39 GMT
Defund the police? Wasn't that the cry? Nope, redirect some of the ever increasing funding of the police and use the money to improve the environment that was producing violence in the first place. = defund the police .
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