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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 11:19:21 GMT
22% pay rise for Public Sector workers - a lonely freezing death for pensioners... Nah. If they’re not on pension credit then they are well off , eh lefties? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 31, 2024 11:22:15 GMT
Most pensioners are asset rich and cash poor, because they might live in big houses doesn't mean they've got money, they've probably worked all their lives to pay off the mortgage, now they will be faced with selling up, being uprooted from their homes because Labour want their houses, pensions, savings, and all other assets they have worked all their life for to enjoy in old age ...... all I can say to Labour ........ YOU WANKERS.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 11:29:11 GMT
Most pensioners are asset rich and cash poor, because they might live in big houses doesn't mean they've got money, they've probably worked all their lives to pay off the mortgage, now they will be faced with selling up, being uprooted from their homes because Labour want their houses, pensions, savings, and all other assets they have worked all their life for to enjoy in old age ...... all I can say to Labour ........ YOU WANKERS. Yup. It won’t belong before Labour tries to filtch the pensioners pension pots , reduce any State pension rise and defend it by pushing pensioners on to pension credit, force them to release equity in their homes , put them in the back end of NHS treatment ( except for euthanasia) then whack the estate with inheritance tax . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 31, 2024 11:31:37 GMT
Most pensioners are asset rich and cash poor, because they might live in big houses doesn't mean they've got money, they've probably worked all their lives to pay off the mortgage, now they will be faced with selling up, being uprooted from their homes because Labour want their houses, pensions, savings, and all other assets they have worked all their life for to enjoy in old age ...... all I can say to Labour ........ YOU WANKERS. Yup. It won’t belong before Labour tries to filtch the pensioners pension pots , reduce any State pension rise and defend it by pushing pensioners on to pension credit, force them to release equity in their homes , put them in the back end of NHS treatment ( except for euthanasia) then whack the estate with inheritance tax . To think Labour called the Tories the 'nasty party' FFS. |
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Post by bancroft on Jul 31, 2024 11:42:19 GMT
Some of the fattest people I have ever seen are the Nurses when I last visited a hospital.. They need to do more Tik-Tok dancing videos... I quite honestly don't understand how they can be. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I don't understand how. My experience as a patient, which is getting to be a more frequent experience as I get older, and my experience admittedly some years ago when I worked in a hospital as a research assistant is that the nursing staff literally get rushed off their feet and don't have time to get obese. And the ones I've had looking after me certainly aren't. Maybe it's a karma thing. Decades of being nice to all the women I've worked with in the face of others being far less so means I get the gorgeous good looking ones in the nursing jobs come wake me at five am .... 😁 The ones doing blood tests and blood pressure tests look big, they tend to sit more. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 31, 2024 11:51:40 GMT
Of course the alternative to coming to an agreement and ending this long running confrontation was what ?
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:12:12 GMT
Of course the alternative to coming to an agreement and ending this long running confrontation was what ? What makes you that it will end ? Do you think the rest of the NHS will pat the junior doctors on the back and not want higher wages for themselves? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2024 12:19:57 GMT
Of course the alternative to coming to an agreement and ending this long running confrontation was what ? It's not going to end. Have you heard what Dr Robert Laurenson has said? FYI he is the very militant 'doctor' who has been leading the junior doctors strikes. He said 22% is all they could reasonably expect right now (This is in addition to 9% previously agreed) because the Labour government are strong at the moment. However, he said a window of opportunity for more strikes will open next year when the governments honeymoon period is over. Public sector strikes havent started yet. But they will. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 31, 2024 12:32:06 GMT
Well Labour wont win the next GE, they'll be back out of power for a lot longer than 13 years the next time round, everything we've said about them they are doing, and now the Labour voters are kicking themselves for not listing to those who knew best.
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 31, 2024 12:38:56 GMT
Robert Laurenson is not the BMA Junior Doctors, he is one man, one person, and no matter what he believes, if junior doctors vote to accept the offer, then the dispute is over.
The offer includes next years offer, therefore the way I see it, he cannot justifiably put an already agreed pay offer to a second vote next year.
But even if he could, and even if he did, who is to say that he would get the majority he would legally require to initiate further strike action.
As for the public sector generally - Most public sector workers have now endured many years of Pay Freezes, followed by below inflation pay rises under the Conservatives. It is widely expected that the new government are going to award most public sector workers an above inflation rise for the first time in many years, thereby making industrial action highly unlikely.
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 31, 2024 13:43:53 GMT
Of course the alternative to coming to an agreement and ending this long running confrontation was what ? All that's happened is that labour have set a precedent for offering OTT wage rises in the unproductive public sector - the junior doctors haven't accepted it yet And anyhow , even if they do they'll be back in 6-9 months for the next demand of over 22% |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 31, 2024 13:46:21 GMT
Robert Laurenson is not the BMA Junior Doctors, he is one man, one person, and no matter what he believes, if junior doctors vote to accept the offer, then the dispute is over. The offer includes next years offer, therefore the way I see it, he cannot justifiably put an already agreed pay offer to a second vote next year. But even if he could, and even if he did, who is to say that he would get the majority he would legally require to initiate further strike action. As for the public sector generally - Most public sector workers have now endured many years of Pay Freezes, followed by below inflation pay rises under the Conservatives. It is widely expected that the new government are going to award most public sector workers an above inflation rise for the first time in many years, thereby making industrial action highly unlikely. Awful lot of assumptions , ifs and buts in your lefty essay without a single basis in fact |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 31, 2024 14:23:52 GMT
Of course the alternative to coming to an agreement and ending this long running confrontation was what ? All that's happened is that labour have set a precedent for offering OTT wage rises in the unproductive public sector - the junior doctors haven't accepted it yet And anyhow , even if they do they'll be back in 6-9 months for the next demand of over 22% Awful lot of assumptions , ifs and buts in your right wing, anti public sector essay without a single basis in fact |
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Post by bancroft on Aug 1, 2024 8:51:50 GMT
Well Labour wont win the next GE, they'll be back out of power for a lot longer than 13 years the next time round, everything we've said about them they are doing, and now the Labour voters are kicking themselves for not listing to those who knew best. Yes that is likely though the Tories do have the ability now to shoot themselves in the foot. It will come down to the economy and cost of living if that improves they stand a good chance of staying in power with fewer seats i guess. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2024 10:30:45 GMT
GPs announce work-to-rule.
Juat days after the government gave junior doctors a 22% payrise, the BMA has announced that GP's have voted to limit appointments to 25 a day – some GPs see over 40 a day. NHS England has warned there could be significant disruption across health services.
I sense the militant left wing public sector are going to make things quite difficult for this government. Oh dear, how sad...
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