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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 9:46:46 GMT
SIR Keir Starmer was facing a backlash last night after ruling out plans for a Netflix-style subscription model for the BBC. The PM said he was committed to keeping the £169.50 licence fee despite calls by critics for a shake-up. The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years. Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding. But he added: “We are committed to the BBC and to the licensing scheme.” www.thesun.co.uk/news/29190936/bbc-licence-fee-sir-keir-starmer/Little wonder the BBC are pro Labour. This will undoubtedly annoy many Labour voters, but in the scheme of things it's small potatoes. Labour voters are going to be a lot more annoyed with this government in the future, lol. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 13, 2024 9:59:02 GMT
Well naturally he’s not going to give a shit about criticism of tbe wokery funded by the normal is he.
Expect more of tbe same
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 10:05:53 GMT
SIR Keir Starmer was facing a backlash last night after ruling out plans for a Netflix-style subscription model for the BBC. The PM said he was committed to keeping the £169.50 licence fee despite calls by critics for a shake-up. The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years. Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding. But he added: “We are committed to the BBC and to the licensing scheme.” www.thesun.co.uk/news/29190936/bbc-licence-fee-sir-keir-starmer/Little wonder the BBC are pro Labour. This will undoubtedly annoy many Labour voters, but in the scheme of things it's small potatoes. Labour voters are going to be a lot more annoyed with this government in the future, lol. really is an out of date anachronism , that's both the BBC and its licence. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 10:23:02 GMT
From the link:
The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years.
Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding.
More thought between now and when the BBC Charter is due for reappraisal seems fair — what sensible changes do we reckon could be brought in before then?
The BBC has a reputation around the world as an important unbiased news provider, and is a great UK image promoter...
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 10:29:38 GMT
The BBC has a reputation around the world as an important unbiased news provider, and is a great UK image promoter...
I haven't laughed so hard on this forum since I started posting on it again. What was it John pilger famously said , the BBC is the most refined propaganda service in the entire world? |
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 10:35:15 GMT
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 10:52:58 GMT
The BBC has a reputation around the world as an important unbiased news provider, and is a great UK image promoter...
I haven't laughed so hard on this forum since I started posting on it again. What was it John pilger famously said , the BBC is the most refined propaganda service in the entire world? All journalists, even renowned examples like John Pilger, are allowed to make a few mistakes and utter a few terminological inexactitudes. He did stuff for the Mirror, where he couldn't even notice Robert Maxwell syphoning sack loads of cash out of the staff pension funds**, though he was sacked after 18 months.
**These pension funds ware only partly repaid from public funds — thus pensioners received about half of their company pension entitlement...
PS — From your link: The biggest drop could be seen in the United Kingdom, where the share of respondents who trusted the BBC dropped by 20 percent, from 75 percent to 55 percent.
Given the orchestrated campaigns against the BBC by the Right in the UK, it's not surprising confidence at home has dropped — and Murdoch is a leading critic for his own reasons...
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 11:11:18 GMT
I haven't laughed so hard on this forum since I started posting on it again. What was it John pilger famously said , the BBC is the most refined propaganda service in the entire world? All journalists, even renowned examples like John Pilger, are allowed to make a few mistakes and utter a few terminological inexactitudes. He did stuff for the Mirror, where he couldn't even notice Robert Maxwell syphoning sack loads of cash out of the staff pension funds**, though he was sacked after 18 months.
**These pension funds ware only partly repaid from public funds — thus pensioners received about half of their company pension entitlement...
PS — From your link: The biggest drop could be seen in the United Kingdom, where the share of respondents who trusted the BBC dropped by 20 percent, from 75 percent to 55 percent.
Given the orchestrated campaigns against the BBC by the Right in the UK, it's not surprising confidence at home has dropped — and Murdoch is a leading critic for his own reasons...
yet more turd polishing , when faced with the evidence of mass decline in trust of the BBC , we get the flimsy excuse at least 55% still like the beeb? How we laughed. Ive said for years , time , and technology will take care of the BBC. Slow motion car crash. The elderly prop it up , and young are going to destroy it. Starmer is simply going to stretch out the beebs avenue revenue for as long as he possibly can before its no longer financially viable. |
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Post by om15 on Jul 13, 2024 11:15:23 GMT
I suspect that in three years' time the political scene will have changed quite dramatically, Starmer will be nowhere to be seen and the general populace will not be able to afford either televisions or radios, so like much else Starmer is saying, it is of no consequence at all.
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 13, 2024 11:38:30 GMT
I sincerely hope that Keir Starmer stands rigidly to his belief that the BBC remains as it is, because there is absolutely no doubt what so ever that making the BBC a subscription service will send its quality of output plummeting to the same depths that is MOST commercial TV.
The Tories always do this, privatise something, then open it up to "dog eat dog" competition, which then drives down the quality of service, with more and more competitors chasing an ever decreasing amount of advertising revenue.
The BBC is the most watched, most popular, most listened to, most used broadcaster in the UK, and the reason it is Number 1 is because it has the resources to produce the best quality output.
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 11:48:01 GMT
All journalists, even renowned examples like John Pilger, are allowed to make a few mistakes and utter a few terminological inexactitudes. He did stuff for the Mirror, where he couldn't even notice Robert Maxwell syphoning sack loads of cash out of the staff pension funds**, though he was sacked after 18 months.
**These pension funds ware only partly repaid from public funds — thus pensioners received about half of their company pension entitlement...
PS — From your link: The biggest drop could be seen in the United Kingdom, where the share of respondents who trusted the BBC dropped by 20 percent, from 75 percent to 55 percent.
Given the orchestrated campaigns against the BBC by the Right in the UK, it's not surprising confidence at home has dropped — and Murdoch is a leading critic for his own reasons...
yet more turd polishing , when faced with the evidence of mass decline in trust of the BBC , we get the flimsy excuse at least 55% still like the beeb? How we laughed. Ive said for years , time , and technology will take care of the BBC. Slow motion car crash. The elderly prop it up , and young are going to destroy it. Starmer is simply going to stretch out the beebs avenue revenue for as long as he possibly can before its no longer financially viable. Take time off from replying like a lippy teenage scrote and you'll probably find our views are not that far apart.
For instance, I've also maintained over the years that the BBC needs to radically reform its mission re: news, education (public information), entertainment, its delivery methods/technologies, and also review its funding model.
It's been doing this for many years but piecemeal and slowly, and not always to everyone's advantage — eg, its local new pages that have adversely impacted local newspapers.
I also agree with what seems to be generally accepted, eg, that, as the population growingly acclimatises to the internet and personal technology, much print and broadcast-dedicated home screens as we know them today, will largely disappear...
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 11:54:16 GMT
yet more turd polishing , when faced with the evidence of mass decline in trust of the BBC , we get the flimsy excuse at least 55% still like the beeb? How we laughed. Ive said for years , time , and technology will take care of the BBC. Slow motion car crash. The elderly prop it up , and young are going to destroy it. Starmer is simply going to stretch out the beebs avenue revenue for as long as he possibly can before its no longer financially viable. Take time off from replying like a lippy teenage scrote and you'll probably find our views are not that far apart.
there are many people with many views posting on here that from time to time , find common ground with my views , but I can't think of much you and I hold in common on any subject. Im slightly older than you , so while it's nice being seen as a teenager , I dont think it lippy to post the truth . The truth is something you liberal centrist status quoers find very difficult to deal with at times. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 12:06:15 GMT
From the link:
The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years.
Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding.
More thought between now and when the BBC Charter is due for reappraisal seems fair — what sensible changes do we reckon could be brought in before then?
The BBC has a reputation around the world as an important unbiased news provider, and is a great UK image promoter... The problem with the BBC funding model is obvious, people are forced to pay for it whether they watch the BBC or not, this is bound to build resentment, and in spite of Starmer who is frightened of turning against the corporation, it is not sustainable. And the only people who think the BBC are unbiased are foreigners who learn English via the world service, and Labour voting lefties. There's more evidence than you could shake a stick at to show that the BBC are biased towards the left. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 12:25:00 GMT
From the link:
The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years.
Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding.
More thought between now and when the BBC Charter is due for reappraisal seems fair — what sensible changes do we reckon could be brought in before then?
The BBC has a reputation around the world as an important unbiased news provider, and is a great UK image promoter... The problem with the BBC funding model is obvious, people are forced to pay for it whether they watch the BBC or not, this is bound to build resentment, and in spite of Starmer who is frightened of turning against the corporation, it is not sustainable. And the only people who think the BBC are unbiased are foreigners who learn English via the world service, and Labour voting lefties. There's more evidence than you could shake a stick at to show that the BBC are biased towards the left. Starmer has played and is playing a blinder. Little the Right could find contentious during the run-up to the election (apart from manufactured squeals about Rayner's domestic situation, re-running beergate, and (your favourite) men in frocks. Labour hit the ground running and is standing up to the problems caused by 14 years of Tories driving the country into poverty.
Not acceding to the calls of the Right which wants a Murdoch-style Fox News by stripping of the ability to air all views for discussion is the correct way to proceed until the review is underway.
You've got GBN and can always seek support for more of the same if you want.
As of April 2024, the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 were the top three leading TV broadcasters in the United Kingdom (UK). In this regard, the BBC held an audience share of about 33 percent. ITV and Channel 4 had audience shares of 20 and 10.8 percent, respectively.
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 13, 2024 12:25:51 GMT
SKY Showcase - Is Sky's prime TV channel
On SKY Showcase today (Saturday 13th July) we firstly have 3 hours of repeat fly on the wall cop documentaries.
Followed a mixture of American cop dramas which are 50 years old, taking us to 6 am and some American childrens programmes, most of the middle part of the day is taken up with repeats of The Simpsons.
This is the essence of SKY TV, very little UK material, virtually nothing actually made by SKY, mostly foreign, mostly repeats.
Same with ITV2 - ITV3 - ITV4 - mostly repeats, same with other commercial channels Thats TV, Thats TV 2, their all the same, the output is garbage.
Give me the BBC any day over this shit
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