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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 15:08:28 GMT
bless sid , the world is streaming various channels online , we have amazon prime , Netflix etc etc , with my own children when they were growing up not watching a single bit of the BBC and today watch you tube more than ordinary tv , and you think its a battle between sky an auntie ? You are light years behind sid. Technology , and time will end the BBC as it stands. Thomas, if I were light years away from the reality of today, then the BBC would be falling down the tables of most popular TV channels, and the BBC would no longer be the "Most Watched" TV channels. you have a captive audience who are forced to pay by law , the licence fee , and you waffle you are most watched channel? BBC audiences as a percentage of the population have been declining despite all this for years , with auntie losing 12 per cent of viewers in the last five years alone , and much needed revenue In the process. Like I said , technology , changing demographics will take care of the BBC once and for all as it stands. |
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Post by om15 on Jul 13, 2024 15:18:08 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 13, 2024 15:19:06 GMT
Thomas, if I were light years away from the reality of today, then the BBC would be falling down the tables of most popular TV channels, and the BBC would no longer be the "Most Watched" TV channels. you have a captive audience who are forced to pay by law , the licence fee , and you waffle you are most watched channel? BBC audiences as a percentage of the population have been declining despite all this for years , with auntie losing 12 per cent of viewers in the last five years alone , and much needed revenue In the process. Like I said , technology , changing demographics will take care of the BBC once and for all as it stands. I'm one of those people who wants their money's worth, if I have to pay for something I want as much out of it as I can get.
FFS I pay for the BBC I just can't bring myself to watch it, I think I can honestly say I will watch the odd thing or two, and to me that is not value for money, it must be one of the only services you can't legally cancel due to not-fit-for-purpose clause, they've got the government/courts/law in their pockets.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 13, 2024 15:21:57 GMT
bless sid , the world is streaming various channels online , we have amazon prime , Netflix etc etc , with my own children when they were growing up not watching a single bit of the BBC and today watch you tube more than ordinary tv , and you think its a battle between sky an auntie ? You are light years behind sid. Technology , and time will end the BBC as it stands. Thomas, if I were light years away from the reality of today, then the BBC would be falling down the tables of most popular TV channels, and the BBC would no longer be the "Most Watched" TV channels. The reality of today is that within the tables of most watched / most popular TV Channels, Amazon and Netflix are a long way behind the BBC. Our BBC remains top of the tables, beating the lot of them, whether it be ITV, SKY, Netflix, YouTube or Amazon, they simply cannot compete on quality or popularity. If we remove the Licence Fee, you can be guaranteed that British culture AND Scottish culture will suffer, because no other broadcaster makes or shows UK made childrens programmes. Which commercial broadcasters would guarantee the inclusion of minorities and marginal communities such as Gaelic speakers in Scotland, and the interests of remoter, isolated communities such as The Highlands and Islands. Taking away the resources of the BBC will make the UK a worse place culturally, and it will inflict a society which only knows mostly foreign (American) TV. Culturally the BBC are doing their best to destroy the overarching British culture by placing overemphasis on guest cultures and largely ignoring much of British cultural norms. I stopped watching BBC documentaries in the main about 5 years ago as the messaging and the narrative was always climate change needs addressing, historical figures were racist, a positive outlook on all immigration and the cultures involved, a lack of coverage of British cultural activities unless viewed as quaint and outdated and an insistence on almost every programme being presented by an ethnic minority person. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 13, 2024 15:46:13 GMT
Thomas, if I were light years away from the reality of today, then the BBC would be falling down the tables of most popular TV channels, and the BBC would no longer be the "Most Watched" TV channels. The reality of today is that within the tables of most watched / most popular TV Channels, Amazon and Netflix are a long way behind the BBC. Our BBC remains top of the tables, beating the lot of them, whether it be ITV, SKY, Netflix, YouTube or Amazon, they simply cannot compete on quality or popularity. If we remove the Licence Fee, you can be guaranteed that British culture AND Scottish culture will suffer, because no other broadcaster makes or shows UK made childrens programmes. Which commercial broadcasters would guarantee the inclusion of minorities and marginal communities such as Gaelic speakers in Scotland, and the interests of remoter, isolated communities such as The Highlands and Islands. Taking away the resources of the BBC will make the UK a worse place culturally, and it will inflict a society which only knows mostly foreign (American) TV. Culturally the BBC are doing their best to destroy the overarching British culture by placing overemphasis on guest cultures and largely ignoring much of British cultural norms. I stopped watching BBC documentaries in the main about 5 years ago as the messaging and the narrative was always climate change needs addressing, historical figures were racist, a positive outlook on all immigration and the cultures involved, a lack of coverage of British cultural activities unless viewed as quaint and outdated and an insistence on almost every programme being presented by an ethnic minority person. Nobody would miss it if it were gone .The best they ever showed were the comical sitcoms that they wont show anymore due to being infested with wokery. Can't say there is anything new on these days that I would watch on a regular basis though as someone of an age that had two channels to chose from as a kid its a habit that its still the go to channel when I turn on . And I do agree that its getting a bit over the top with its black and ethnic minority representation ,not to mention its promotion of homosexuality . I see they killed two birds with one stone with the new Dr Who . Another programme ruined by wokeness . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 13, 2024 15:58:40 GMT
Culturally the BBC are doing their best to destroy the overarching British culture by placing overemphasis on guest cultures and largely ignoring much of British cultural norms. I stopped watching BBC documentaries in the main about 5 years ago as the messaging and the narrative was always climate change needs addressing, historical figures were racist, a positive outlook on all immigration and the cultures involved, a lack of coverage of British cultural activities unless viewed as quaint and outdated and an insistence on almost every programme being presented by an ethnic minority person. Nobody would miss it if it were gone .The best they ever showed were the comical sitcoms that they wont show anymore due to being infested with wokery. Can't say there is anything new on these days that I would watch on a regular basis though as someone of an age that had two channels to chose from as a kid its a habit that its still the go to channel when I turn on . And I do agree that its getting a bit over the top with its black and ethnic minority representation ,not to mention its promotion of homosexuality . I see they killed two birds with one stone with the new Dr Who . Another programme ruined by wokeness . Take it from me if Dr Who was PAYG the BBC would drop it like a hot potato, but while Mugs like us fund it, they'll continue plugging and forcing their diverse, woke snowflake, virtue signalling agenda. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 18:56:38 GMT
But that was two years ago, and it takes time to change one’s habits… |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 19:05:28 GMT
And look what the others got up to and had to battle, police investigations, falling education standards, high taxation, etc, etc, etc.
Silence is sometimes golden...
Pat, you appear to have watched a different election to everyone else. Yes Labour won, but privately such a shallow victory will be disappointing for Starmer. I'm sure it will come as no comfort to him that he won with just 34% of the vote, yet in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40%. In other words, Corbyn was more popular than Starmer. A shallow victory you say, but it’s wide, and gives Labour a chance to dig the UK out of the trench Boris and Truss slid it into. And five or ten years in opposition should give Conservatives time to save their party and place it firmly in the Centre Right that Margaret Thather would approve of… |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 13, 2024 19:16:08 GMT
Culturally the BBC are doing their best to destroy the overarching British culture by placing overemphasis on guest cultures and largely ignoring much of British cultural norms. I stopped watching BBC documentaries in the main about 5 years ago as the messaging and the narrative was always climate change needs addressing, historical figures were racist, a positive outlook on all immigration and the cultures involved, a lack of coverage of British cultural activities unless viewed as quaint and outdated and an insistence on almost every programme being presented by an ethnic minority person. Nobody would miss it if it were gone .The best they ever showed were the comical sitcoms that they wont show anymore due to being infested with wokery. Can't say there is anything new on these days that I would watch on a regular basis though as someone of an age that had two channels to chose from as a kid its a habit that its still the go to channel when I turn on . And I do agree that its getting a bit over the top with its black and ethnic minority representation ,not to mention its promotion of homosexuality . I see they killed two birds with one stone with the new Dr Who . Another programme ruined by wokeness . I occasionally see some programmes advertised or if I have Radio 4 on at breakfast time I hear about them and I make a firm note to ensure I miss them. It always seems to be Windrush generation, Amritsar massacre, how Britain partitioned India, immigrant voices, fighting racism, Gaza voices, black Britain, Sikhs in Britain, climate emergency, the birth of Stonewall and then if we get a programme on British History we get Olusogu tearing it to pieces and indicating how evil it was. I have no problems with a warts and all history but a warts only history gradually grates. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 19:16:09 GMT
I sincerely hope that Keir Starmer stands rigidly to his belief that the BBC remains as it is, because there is absolutely no doubt what so ever that making the BBC a subscription service will send its quality of output plummeting to the same depths that is MOST commercial TV. The Tories always do this, privatise something, then open it up to "dog eat dog" competition, which then drives down the quality of service, with more and more competitors chasing an ever decreasing amount of advertising revenue. The BBC is the most watched, most popular, most listened to, most used broadcaster in the UK, and the reason it is Number 1 is because it has the resources to produce the best quality output. Frankly, I don’t — sticking solidly to Reith’s idea, as they’ve been adhered to for 100 years, means they need looking at. Similarly the BBC funding issue needs resolving. But it shouldn’t be for change sake — the BBC gets a lot right, and it shouldn’t be penalised for not broadcasting everything from the Right. It’s political balance allows Left and Right to arrive at their own decisions… |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 19:23:00 GMT
Nobody would miss it if it were gone .The best they ever showed were the comical sitcoms that they wont show anymore due to being infested with wokery. Can't say there is anything new on these days that I would watch on a regular basis though as someone of an age that had two channels to chose from as a kid its a habit that its still the go to channel when I turn on . And I do agree that its getting a bit over the top with its black and ethnic minority representation ,not to mention its promotion of homosexuality . I see they killed two birds with one stone with the new Dr Who . Another programme ruined by wokeness . I occasionally see some programmes advertised or if I have Radio 4 on at breakfast time I hear about them and I make a firm note to ensure I miss them. It always seems to be Windrush generation, Amritsar massacre, how Britain partitioned India, immigrant voices, fighting racism, Gaza voices, black Britain, Sikhs in Britain, climate emergency, the birth of Stonewall and then if we get a programme on British History we get Olusogu tearing it to pieces and indicating how evil it was. I have no problems with a warts and all history but a warts only history gradually grates. My take on your admission is that your ears are attuned to picking up stuff you’re politically against. I’m struggling with being the only Conservative in my family, but having to jettison all support for the crew that’s run the UK for the past 14 years. My family are laughing, so and I’m feeling foolish — but convinced I’ll ultimatey be proved right in five or ten years… |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 13, 2024 19:24:20 GMT
I sincerely hope that Keir Starmer stands rigidly to his belief that the BBC remains as it is, because there is absolutely no doubt what so ever that making the BBC a subscription service will send its quality of output plummeting to the same depths that is MOST commercial TV. The Tories always do this, privatise something, then open it up to "dog eat dog" competition, which then drives down the quality of service, with more and more competitors chasing an ever decreasing amount of advertising revenue. The BBC is the most watched, most popular, most listened to, most used broadcaster in the UK, and the reason it is Number 1 is because it has the resources to produce the best quality output. Frankly, I don’t — sticking solidly to Reith’s idea, as they’ve been adhered to for 100 years, means they need looking at. Similarly the BBC funding issue needs resolving. But it shouldn’t be for change sake — the BBC gets a lot right, and it shouldn’t be penalised for not broadcasting everything from the Right. It’s political balance allows Left and Right to arrive at their own decisions… Very rarely is that the case and this election has highlighted how they treat differently those that are 'in the club' and those who are 'rocking the boat'. Selective audiences, different types of questioning and highlighting different specifics tell the tale too easily and it has been like that in an obvious way since the planned put down of Nick Griffin in 2009 and how the BNP were reported during the 2010 election. Impartiality went out of the window. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 13, 2024 19:29:07 GMT
I occasionally see some programmes advertised or if I have Radio 4 on at breakfast time I hear about them and I make a firm note to ensure I miss them. It always seems to be Windrush generation, Amritsar massacre, how Britain partitioned India, immigrant voices, fighting racism, Gaza voices, black Britain, Sikhs in Britain, climate emergency, the birth of Stonewall and then if we get a programme on British History we get Olusogu tearing it to pieces and indicating how evil it was. I have no problems with a warts and all history but a warts only history gradually grates. My take on your admission is that your ears are attuned to picking up stuff you’re politically against. I’m struggling with being the only Conservative in my family, but having to jettison all support for the crew that’s run the UK for the past 14 years. My family are laughing, so and I’m feeling foolish — but convinced I’ll ultimatey be proved right in five or ten years… My ears are attuned to what is on and the fact it is at best an imbalance. Did I miss something that was impartial or from a British cultural perspective, if I did it must have been low key. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 19:31:51 GMT
Pat, you appear to have watched a different election to everyone else. Yes Labour won, but privately such a shallow victory will be disappointing for Starmer. I'm sure it will come as no comfort to him that he won with just 34% of the vote, yet in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40%. In other words, Corbyn was more popular than Starmer. A shallow victory you say, but it’s wide, and gives Labour a chance to dig the UK out of the trench Boris and Truss slid it into. And five or ten years in opposition should give Conservatives time to save their party and place it firmly in the Centre Right that Margaret Thather would approve of… However shallow, a win is a win. Starmer has every right to look smug publicly. But behind closed doors the spin doctors at Labour HQ will be very concerned that such a divisive character as Corbyn was more popular than the current Labour prime minister. You think this government will have two terms lol, good man. Starmer wont be a full term PM that's for sure, and considering what's in store with even more immigration and net zero, people are going to get very pissed off very soon. Yes this government may prove to be the most unpopular post war government ever, and may not last one term let alone two. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 13, 2024 19:34:11 GMT
SIR Keir Starmer was facing a backlash last night after ruling out plans for a Netflix-style subscription model for the BBC. The PM said he was committed to keeping the £169.50 licence fee despite calls by critics for a shake-up. The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years. Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding. But he added: “We are committed to the BBC and to the licensing scheme.” www.thesun.co.uk/news/29190936/bbc-licence-fee-sir-keir-starmer/Little wonder the BBC are pro Labour. This will undoubtedly annoy many Labour voters, but in the scheme of things it's small potatoes. Labour voters are going to be a lot more annoyed with this government in the future, lol. I stopped watching BBC political reporting during the last election because under its new management it was very very clearly Pro Conservative. Old Conservatives should have been very annoyed with Conservative governments over the last 70 years, they weren't annoyed anything like as much as normal people would and should have been, hence the mess the UK has been in for that period. |
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