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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 12:34:12 GMT
The problem with the BBC funding model is obvious, people are forced to pay for it whether they watch the BBC or not, this is bound to build resentment, and in spite of Starmer who is frightened of turning against the corporation, it is not sustainable. And the only people who think the BBC are unbiased are foreigners who learn English via the world service, and Labour voting lefties. There's more evidence than you could shake a stick at to show that the BBC are biased towards the left. Starmer has played and is playing a blinder.
he played a blinder? Fuck me you must wear out some amount of cloths polishing turds. Did we watch different run ups to the general election ? when its pointed out starmers blinder was merely to get the votes of 20 % of the electorate and a disproportionate amount of seats , you tell us its nothing more than sour grapes from losers. If a politician who sat on his hands the whole election , and let the system put him in power is playing a blinder , then you are either easily pleased or over dramatic . |
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 12:36:51 GMT
SKY Showcase - Is Sky's prime TV channel On SKY Showcase today (Saturday 13th July) we firstly have 3 hours of repeat fly on the wall cop documentaries. Followed a mixture of American cop dramas which are 50 years old, taking us to 6 am and some American childrens programmes, most of the middle part of the day is taken up with repeats of The Simpsons. This is the essence of SKY TV, very little UK material, virtually nothing actually made by SKY, mostly foreign, mostly repeats. Same with ITV2 - ITV3 - ITV4 - mostly repeats, same with other commercial channels Thats TV, Thats TV 2, their all the same, the output is garbage. Give me the BBC any day over this shit bless sid , the world is streaming various channels online , we have amazon prime , Netflix etc etc , with my own children when they were growing up not watching a single bit of the BBC and today watch you tube more than ordinary tv , and you think its a battle between sky an auntie ? You are light years behind sid. Technology , and time will end the BBC as it stands. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 12:42:13 GMT
Starmer has played and is playing a blinder.
he played a blinder? Fuck me you must wear out some amount of cloths polishing turds. Did we watch different run ups to the general election ? when its pointed out starmers blinder was merely to get the votes of 20 % of the electorate and a disproportionate amount of seats , you tell us its nothing more than sour grapes from losers. If a politician who sat on his hands the whole election , and let the system put him in power is playing a blinder , then you are either easily pleased or over dramatic . And look what the others got up to and had to battle, police investigations, falling education standards, high taxation, etc, etc, etc.
Silence is sometimes golden...
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 13, 2024 12:58:47 GMT
SKY Showcase - Is Sky's prime TV channel On SKY Showcase today (Saturday 13th July) we firstly have 3 hours of repeat fly on the wall cop documentaries. Followed a mixture of American cop dramas which are 50 years old, taking us to 6 am and some American childrens programmes, most of the middle part of the day is taken up with repeats of The Simpsons. This is the essence of SKY TV, very little UK material, virtually nothing actually made by SKY, mostly foreign, mostly repeats. Same with ITV2 - ITV3 - ITV4 - mostly repeats, same with other commercial channels Thats TV, Thats TV 2, their all the same, the output is garbage. Give me the BBC any day over this shit bless sid , the world is streaming various channels online , we have amazon prime , Netflix etc etc , with my own children when they were growing up not watching a single bit of the BBC and today watch you tube more than ordinary tv , and you think its a battle between sky an auntie ? You are light years behind sid. Technology , and time will end the BBC as it stands. Thomas, if I were light years away from the reality of today, then the BBC would be falling down the tables of most popular TV channels, and the BBC would no longer be the "Most Watched" TV channels. The reality of today is that within the tables of most watched / most popular TV Channels, Amazon and Netflix are a long way behind the BBC. Our BBC remains top of the tables, beating the lot of them, whether it be ITV, SKY, Netflix, YouTube or Amazon, they simply cannot compete on quality or popularity. If we remove the Licence Fee, you can be guaranteed that British culture AND Scottish culture will suffer, because no other broadcaster makes or shows UK made childrens programmes. Which commercial broadcasters would guarantee the inclusion of minorities and marginal communities such as Gaelic speakers in Scotland, and the interests of remoter, isolated communities such as The Highlands and Islands. Taking away the resources of the BBC will make the UK a worse place culturally, and it will inflict a society which only knows mostly foreign (American) TV. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 13:13:37 GMT
Starmer has played and is playing a blinder. Little the Right could find contentious during the run-up to the election (apart from manufactured squeals about Rayner's domestic situation, re-running beergate, and (your favourite) men in frocks. Labour hit the ground running and is standing up to the problems caused by 14 years of Tories driving the country into poverty. Not acceding to the calls of the Right which wants a Murdoch-style Fox News by stripping of the ability to air all views for discussion is the correct way to proceed until the review is underway. You've got GBN and can always seek support for more of the same if you want. As of April 2024, the BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 were the top three leading TV broadcasters in the United Kingdom (UK). In this regard, the BBC held an audience share of about 33 percent. ITV and Channel 4 had audience shares of 20 and 10.8 percent, respectively.
www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=bbc+viewing+figures+compared+to+competitors
Are you kidding? Starmer didn't say anything during the run up to the election. Commentators constantly mentioned that Starmer was saying absolutely nothing on any policy, the reasons for which are becoming increasingly obvious. Uninterested in Murdoch, Fox news or the BBC, I don't watch any of them. The difference being, I'm forced to pay for the BBC whether I watch it or not. You mention viewing figs, and it's worth mentioning that BBC tv and radio are losing viewers/listeners all the time, particularly among younger people who watch everything on smartphone/tablet and don't bother with piffling things like a BBC tv licence. GB News is a new channel have shaken things up, and about time. And after being named the nation’s most loved news brand in a poll by Savanta, GB News is going from strength to strength - link - which is why the left leaning BBC want it shut down. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 13:22:53 GMT
he played a blinder? Fuck me you must wear out some amount of cloths polishing turds. Did we watch different run ups to the general election ? when its pointed out starmers blinder was merely to get the votes of 20 % of the electorate and a disproportionate amount of seats , you tell us its nothing more than sour grapes from losers. If a politician who sat on his hands the whole election , and let the system put him in power is playing a blinder , then you are either easily pleased or over dramatic . And look what the others got up to and had to battle, police investigations, falling education standards, high taxation, etc, etc, etc.
Silence is sometimes golden...
Pat, you appear to have watched a different election to everyone else. Yes Labour won, but privately such a shallow victory will be disappointing for Starmer. I'm sure it will come as no comfort to him that he won with just 34% of the vote, yet in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40%. In other words, Corbyn was more popular than Starmer. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 13, 2024 13:28:00 GMT
From the link:
The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years.
Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding.
More thought between now and when the BBC Charter is due for reappraisal seems fair — what sensible changes do we reckon could be brought in before then?
The BBC has a reputation around the world as an important unbiased news provider, and is a great UK image promoter...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 13, 2024 13:30:22 GMT
I haven't laughed so hard on this forum since I started posting on it again. What was it John pilger famously said , the BBC is the most refined propaganda service in the entire world? All journalists, even renowned examples like John Pilger, are allowed to make a few mistakes and utter a few terminological inexactitudes. He did stuff for the Mirror, where he couldn't even notice Robert Maxwell syphoning sack loads of cash out of the staff pension funds**, though he was sacked after 18 months.
**These pension funds ware only partly repaid from public funds — thus pensioners received about half of their company pension entitlement...
PS — From your link: The biggest drop could be seen in the United Kingdom, where the share of respondents who trusted the BBC dropped by 20 percent, from 75 percent to 55 percent.
Given the orchestrated campaigns against the BBC by the Right in the UK, it's not surprising confidence at home has dropped — and Murdoch is a leading critic for his own reasons...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 13, 2024 13:31:20 GMT
Blimey, Patsy - it's the way you tell 'em!
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 13, 2024 13:32:43 GMT
So let's sum up: Lefty PM supports lefty propaganda broadcaster.
Who knew?
And the only people claiming otherwise are deluded lefties hinting at a conspiracy by a mythical "Far Right".
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Post by borchester on Jul 13, 2024 13:33:10 GMT
SIR Keir Starmer was facing a backlash last night after ruling out plans for a Netflix-style subscription model for the BBC. The PM said he was committed to keeping the £169.50 licence fee despite calls by critics for a shake-up. The BBC Charter, which outlines its funding and governance, is up in three years. Sir Keir said there would be “more thought between now and then” on funding. But he added: “We are committed to the BBC and to the licensing scheme.” www.thesun.co.uk/news/29190936/bbc-licence-fee-sir-keir-starmer/Little wonder the BBC are pro Labour. This will undoubtedly annoy many Labour voters, but in the scheme of things it's small potatoes. Labour voters are going to be a lot more annoyed with this government in the future, lol. really is an out of date anachronism , that's both the BBC and its licence. A bit like Starmer.
I always thought that he had a certain rat like cunning, but already he has plans to release thousands of villains from jail, rejoin the EU and retain the licence fee. I can't wait to see what his next attempt to lose the next by election will be
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 13, 2024 13:48:09 GMT
really is an out of date anachronism , that's both the BBC and its licence. A bit like Starmer.
I always thought that he had a certain rat like cunning, but already he has plans to release thousands of villains from jail, rejoin the EU and retain the licence fee. I can't wait to see what his next attempt to lose the next by election will be
He probably figures that he has 5 years to do what he likes.
The problem will come mid-term when Labour's popularity starts to slide.
Then the knives will be out for him.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 13, 2024 14:04:30 GMT
The BBC is the most watched, most popular, most listened to, most used broadcaster in the UK, and the reason it is Number 1 is because it has the resources to produce the best quality output. I keep hearing this and if its true then it wouldn't have any trouble attracting subscribers.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 13, 2024 14:08:14 GMT
Why would you bite the hand the feeds you, the BBC was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party, every news segment was anti-Tory every political program was anti-Tory, ITV, CH4 were almost peddling the same bias crap, the only difference being we don't have to fund their bias crap.
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 15:04:16 GMT
he played a blinder? Fuck me you must wear out some amount of cloths polishing turds. Did we watch different run ups to the general election ? when its pointed out starmers blinder was merely to get the votes of 20 % of the electorate and a disproportionate amount of seats , you tell us its nothing more than sour grapes from losers. If a politician who sat on his hands the whole election , and let the system put him in power is playing a blinder , then you are either easily pleased or over dramatic . And look what the others got up to and had to battle, police investigations, falling education standards, high taxation, etc, etc, etc.
Silence is sometimes golden...
in the last day or two when asked about labour on two forums, you run off shouting look at what other parties got up to in defence of the indefensible. Once more for the hard of understanding , I didnt vote snp , have no time for the current crop of sturgeonites in charge of the party , and the half million scot indy supporters who sat at home in disgust of them did more damage to the snp than you or your labour cronies did in weeks of campaigning and years of the London chattering classes throwing muck. To be fair to the snp............has any one been convicted of wrongdoing yet ? nope. Scotland is better educated than England ....tick. We pay marginally more tax than higher earners in your country , and for a few quid , get cheaper council tax , nationalised water and no private water rates like you do , free prescriptions and university while you pay for prescritptions and what is it the second highest university frees for children in the world ? I reckon for a few hundred quid , Scots are 9 grand better off on free university education alone never mind much else. Better to be silent on things you know little of pat , and be thought a fool , than post , and confirm it. |
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