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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 17:35:20 GMT
From what I've seen and heard, it seems a no-brainer that while people are imprisoned, they're given access to education and training ...
I would agree but its almost impossible to do that with the level of overcrowding that we have. I'd like to see some better use of alternative sentences and some assessment of why people are sent to prison in the first place. I cant see why people who fail to pay the BBC Licence fee and then fail to pay the fine are imprisoned - there must be a better way. Scrap the Labour party TV tax. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 7, 2024 17:42:16 GMT
And encouragement "not to do it again"? If so, that part appears to be lacking... Here's a concept that you will no doubt disagree with. I believe a good deterrent is a harsh system. Not a cruel system, but an austere strict system. If prison was a place in which an offender never wished to visit twice it would go a long way to reducing the prison population. Isn't the whole purpose of prison to ultimately discourage crime? I suggest that by helping a prisoner to overcome addiction, to read and write, and get some other useful skill, there will be eventually be less criminality.
I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging...
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Post by Bentley on Jul 7, 2024 17:45:16 GMT
How do you encourage a criminal not to commit crime? I accept not all people in prison are career criminals, but many are. How do you 'encourage' someone with 20 previous convictions not to do it again? Here's a concept that you will no doubt disagree with. I believe a good deterrent is a harsh system. Not a cruel system, but an austere strict system. If prison was a place in which an offender never wished to visit twice it would go a long way to reducing the prison population. Isn't the whole purpose of prison to ultimately discourage crime? I suggest that by helping a prisoner to overcome addiction, to read and write, and get some other useful skill, there will be eventually be less criminality.
I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging...
Even if they are migrants ? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 7, 2024 17:47:37 GMT
Isn't the whole purpose of prison to ultimately discourage crime? Or to protect the public from those who may be a danger to them? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 7, 2024 17:47:45 GMT
How do you encourage a criminal not to commit crime? I accept not all people in prison are career criminals, but many are. How do you 'encourage' someone with 20 previous convictions not to do it again? Here's a concept that you will no doubt disagree with. I believe a good deterrent is a harsh system. Not a cruel system, but an austere strict system. If prison was a place in which an offender never wished to visit twice it would go a long way to reducing the prison population. Isn't the whole purpose of prison to ultimately discourage crime? I suggest that by helping a prisoner to overcome addiction, to read and write, and get some other useful skill, there will be eventually be less criminality.
I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging...
We appear to be moving in circles. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 7, 2024 17:49:23 GMT
Isn't the whole purpose of prison to ultimately discourage crime? I suggest that by helping a prisoner to overcome addiction, to read and write, and get some other useful skill, there will be eventually be less criminality.
I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging...
Even if they are migrants ? Why ask?
I've said: I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging.
Why isn't that inclusive enough...?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 7, 2024 17:50:34 GMT
Isn't the whole purpose of prison to ultimately discourage crime? I suggest that by helping a prisoner to overcome addiction, to read and write, and get some other useful skill, there will be eventually be less criminality.
I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging...
Even if they are migrants ? Very fair point. Pressure on the overcrowded prison system would be relieved if c14,000 foreign criminals were deported. But wait a minute, I'm forgetting left wing lawyers and the ECHR... |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 7, 2024 18:23:07 GMT
Even if they are migrants ? Why ask?
I've said: I don't want unemployed hardened brutalised ex-inmates living on the streets by theft and mugging.
Why isn't that inclusive enough...?
I don’t know unless you tell me . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 7, 2024 18:24:21 GMT
Even if they are migrants ? Very fair point. Pressure on the overcrowded prison system would be relieved if c14,000 foreign criminals were deported. But wait a minute, I'm forgetting left wing lawyers and the ECHR... Indeed. Foreign criminals are not welcome until the lefties find an excuse not to send them back . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 7, 2024 18:56:46 GMT
Very fair point. Pressure on the overcrowded prison system would be relieved if c14,000 foreign criminals were deported. But wait a minute, I'm forgetting left wing lawyers and the ECHR... Indeed. Foreign criminals are not welcome until the lefties find an excuse not to send them back . Don't let andrea see you posting 'Foreign' he'll have one of his racist rants. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 7, 2024 19:09:01 GMT
Indeed. Foreign criminals are not welcome until the lefties find an excuse not to send them back . Don't let andrea see you posting 'Foreign' he'll have one of his racist rants. Because they are talking about the foreign prison populations Not British prisoners .you Racist chump |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 7, 2024 19:14:45 GMT
Don't let andrea see you posting 'Foreign' he'll have one of his racist rants. Because they are talking about the foreign prison populations Not British prisoners .you Racist chump Foreign is a 'trigger' word for the outraged lefty loons, you wouldn't know a racist if it slapped you on your docile stupid thicko face. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 7, 2024 19:16:44 GMT
Because they are talking about the foreign prison populations Not British prisoners .you Racist chump Foreign is a 'trigger' word for the outraged lefty loons, you wouldn't know a racist if it slapped you on your docile stupid thicko face. I do i know you are one |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 7, 2024 19:16:47 GMT
Because they are talking about the foreign prison populations Not British prisoners .you Racist chump Foreign is a 'trigger' word for the outraged lefty loons, you wouldn't know a racist if it slapped you on your docile stupid thicko face. So you're going to deport them to Tooting? 🫠🤣🙃 |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 7, 2024 19:18:52 GMT
Foreign is a 'trigger' word for the outraged lefty loons, you wouldn't know a racist if it slapped you on your docile stupid thicko face. So you're going to deport them to Tooting? 🫠🤣🙃 and one comes along .... LOL  |
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