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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 10:42:11 GMT
I started to reply to the incohesive guddle of your last 2 posts to me, Thomas, but quickly realised that it was pointless to do so because it wasn’t clear to me that you understand what a mandate, or rather, an electoral mandate in a representative democracy, means or is. Can you enlighten me by giving your definition please. ive given you my definition , and politely , despite you numerous attempts at insults and put downs while not reading , or selectively reading my posts .Now can you give me an example of where in western civilisation , political parties from governments on a third of the vote with 64 % of seats? if you can't reply in kind , or acknowledge when you talk bollocks , without raving like a demented orangeman about the union , then its pointless engaging with you. Over to you. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 9, 2024 10:57:14 GMT
Face like a bulldog chewing a wasp:  RIP SNP. |
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Post by happyjack on Jul 9, 2024 11:02:33 GMT
I started to reply to the incohesive guddle of your last 2 posts to me, Thomas, but quickly realised that it was pointless to do so because it wasn’t clear to me that you understand what a mandate, or rather, an electoral mandate in a representative democracy, means or is. Can you enlighten me by giving your definition please. ive given you my definition , and politely , despite you numerous attempts at insults and put downs while not reading , or selectively reading my posts .Now can you give me an example of where in western civilisation , political parties from governments on a third of the vote with 64 % of seats? if you can't reply in kind , or acknowledge when you talk bollocks , without raving like a demented orangeman about the union , then its pointless engaging with you. Over to you. No you haven’t given a definition, certainly not in anything that you have said to me. If you think that you have then you clearly have no idea of what the concept of an electoral mandate in a representative democracy means which, thinking about how dim-witted you are, is the most obvious explanation. As for your question, I don’t know of any such example but so what? |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 11:03:33 GMT
Vinny is posting silly videos of someone no longer in power , and happy is reduced to copy and pasting my post without comment. Jesus wept.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 9, 2024 11:17:06 GMT
Major unionist parties in Scotland. Labour: 851,897
Conservative: 307,344
Lib Dem: 234,228 Reform UK: 167,979
Total: 1,561,448
Major separatist parties in Scotland.
SNP: 724,758
Green: 92,685
Alba: 11,784
Total: 829,227
Ok there were minor parties each getting below 10k votes.
65% of Scots who voted, voted for the Union.
34% backed SNATsism.
RIP SNP.
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Post by happyjack on Jul 9, 2024 11:24:03 GMT
Vinny is posting silly videos of someone no longer in power , and happy is reduced to copy and pasting my post without comment. Jesus wept. I didn’t copy and paste your post. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 11:31:17 GMT
Vinny is posting silly videos of someone no longer in power , and happy is reduced to copy and pasting my post without comment. Jesus wept. I didn’t copy and paste your post. oh dear. I see you amended it. Having difficulty with the big buttons? |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 11:32:19 GMT
Major unionist parties in Scotland. Labour: 851,897
Conservative: 307,344
Lib Dem: 234,228 Reform UK: 167,979
Total: 1,561,448
Major separatist parties in Scotland.
SNP: 724,758
Green: 92,685
Alba: 11,784
Total: 829,227
Ok there were minor parties each getting below 10k votes.
65% of Scots who voted, voted for the Union.
34% backed SNATsism.
RIP SNP.
they didnt. 38% of Scots voted unionist. way down on the long term unionist vote. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 11:36:31 GMT
ive given you my definition , and politely , despite you numerous attempts at insults and put downs while not reading , or selectively reading my posts .Now can you give me an example of where in western civilisation , political parties from governments on a third of the vote with 64 % of seats? if you can't reply in kind , or acknowledge when you talk bollocks , without raving like a demented orangeman about the union , then its pointless engaging with you. Over to you. As for your question, I don’t know of any such example but so what? brilliant. So when you earlier said this... desperate muckraking implying no party has won the popular vote so all are equally bad and we just have to accept the labour fiasco of 33.7 giving 64 % , you were simply just polishing a large turd , and that you now readily admit , having trolled the western worlds results , you can't find a bigger democratic outrage ? Your British union massively and undemocratically failing Scottish voters , and wider uk voters isnt a sign of a healthy union of nations. the uk banana republic and its dodgy voting system.  |
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Post by happyjack on Jul 9, 2024 12:10:48 GMT
I didn’t copy and paste your post. oh dear. I see you amended it. Having difficulty with the big buttons? I said above that I didn’t copy and paste your post so I obviously didn’t amend a copied and pasted post. Having difficulty understanding basic English ? |
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Post by happyjack on Jul 9, 2024 12:20:44 GMT
As for your question, I don’t know of any such example but so what? brilliant. So when you earlier said this... desperate muckraking implying no party has won the popular vote so all are equally bad and we just have to accept the labour fiasco of 33.7 giving 64 % , you were simply just polishing a large turd , and that you now readily admit , having trolled the western worlds results , you can't find a bigger democratic outrage ? Your British union massively and undemocratically failing Scottish voters , and wider uk voters isnt a sign of a healthy union of nations. the uk banana republic and its dodgy voting system. There is no “implying no party has won the popular vote”, certainly not at Holyrood or at Westminster in my lifetime, anyway; that is a demonstrable fact. Nor is there any muckraking, just a simple application of straightforward logic to basic principle which, despite your ramblings above, still holds true i.e. if you believe that Labour has no mandate because it failed to win a majority of the popular vote then it follows that neither did or does any other government at either Westminster or Holyrood that failed to win a majority of the popular vote have a mandate either. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 12:23:07 GMT
oh dear. I see you amended it. Having difficulty with the big buttons? I said above that I didn’t copy and paste your post so I obviously didn’t amend a copied and pasted post. Having difficulty understanding basic English ? you posted a copy and paste of my earlier post , presumably having great difficulty once again with the forum software and the big buttons , left no reply to said post , then went back later and amended it as I said. Now. puerile retorts from you once again aside , have yo. anything further to say that may pass as some minor interest to me , reading labour democratic outrage of winning 64% of seats on 33.7% of the vote , or has you bubble burst trying to polish labours lack of mandate? my language is Scots . |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 9, 2024 12:25:25 GMT
 Note the Odal rune. A Nazi symbol.  |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 12:26:03 GMT
brilliant. So when you earlier said this... desperate muckraking implying no party has won the popular vote so all are equally bad and we just have to accept the labour fiasco of 33.7 giving 64 % , you were simply just polishing a large turd , and that you now readily admit , having trolled the western worlds results , you can't find a bigger democratic outrage ? Your British union massively and undemocratically failing Scottish voters , and wider uk voters isnt a sign of a healthy union of nations. the uk banana republic and its dodgy voting system. There is no implying that no party has won the popular vote, certainly not at Holyrood or at Westminster in my lifetime, anyway. That is a demonstrable fact. Nor is there any muckraking, just a simple application of straightforward logic to basic principle which, despite your ramblings above, still holds true i.e. if you believe that Labour has no mandate because it failed to win a majority of the popular vote then it follows that neither did or does any other government at either Westminster or Holyrood that failed to win a majority of the popular vote have a mandate either. labour has no mandate to receive 64% of seats on 33.7 % of the vote and form a landslide government on a minority amount of the vote. contrast that to the snp government for example in out countries parliament at Holyrood , who do have a democratic mandate as the largest party in a minority government , with a sensible amount of seats comparably to vote share. Like I said. the British banana republic , with a lack of democracy. Labour have no mandate. Lets hope the clamour grows even louder against the minority supported starmer administration. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 12:28:25 GMT
what like the Ukrainian azov battalion ? Tell me Vinny would you shoot anyone who doesn't hold your British nationalist political views , or simply jail them and stop Scots voting? Or would you just invade scotland like your friend putin? would you use nuclear weapons on Scots Vinny? |
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