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Post by om15 on Jul 19, 2024 8:56:08 GMT
When you pepper your posts with Anyone But England, it is a sort of giveaway.
Unless it's England of course.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 19, 2024 9:10:45 GMT
Of that 7 nations you mention England comes last. Europe - Germany (incl.W) WC 4; Euros 3. Italy WC 3; ![]() ![]()  Euros 2; France WC 2; Euros 2. Spain WC 1; Euros 4. England WC 1; Euros 0. South America - Brazil WC 5; SA Champs/Copa America 9. Argentina WC 3; SA Champ/Copa America 16. About Scotland's inability to win through to the knockout stages, the only answer is that we do not have players with enough ability to achieve that kind of performance. It was not always so. As I have said previously, the 74 squad was full of class players like Sandy Jardine, Danny McGrain, Billy Bremner, Kenny Dalglish, Joe Jordan, Peter Lorimer, Denis Law (by 74 he was almost at the end of his career). In the group the only wins were against Zaire, all the other matches were drawn. Scotland's win, in their first match, against Zaire was not enough to match Yugoslavia's 9-0 victory or the 3-0 Brazilian win. Three countries finished on four points, Scotland lost out on Goal Difference. Having only drawn 0-0 with Scotland, Brazil went on to take third place. Shooting themselves in the foot against weaker opposition was to occur again in the much hyped 1978 Finals. The team lost their opening match to group winners Peru. Then they, inexplicably, drew with Iran before beating the Dutch (who finished 2nd in the event). Scotland were again hit by the inability to score enough goals against the weakest country in the group, and went out on GD. Scotland also competed in 1982, 1986, 1990, 1998. www.scottishfa.co.uk/scotland/archive/scotland-at-major-tournaments/scotland-at-the-world-cup/As I said above, Scotland's poor performance in Germany came down to player ability. Few were playing at top level in England or Scotland: McTominay, Robertson and McGinn were the only ones playing for Top 10 English teams. There were some who were plying their trade overseas, of whom Ryan Porteous was playing at the highest kevel (Real Sociedad). Several of the others, though, did play in the Premier League albeit for lower placed teams: Ryan Christie (Bournemouth) & Billy Gilmour (Brighton). But, too many were from Championship Clubs: Angus Gunn & Grant Hanley (both Norwich), Che Adams (Southampton), Ryan Porteous (Watford). Compare this with 1974 when five of the squad were from English champions Leeds Utd. Other English based players were from lower 1st Division teams Man City and the relegated Man Utd. There were top home players like Sandy Jardine, Danny McGrain, David Hay, Kenny Dalglish & John Blackley, who played for Hibs. Hibs were knocked out of the UEFA Cup by Leeds but took them all the way, only to lose 5-4 on penalties. I think it's fair to say that there is a different expectation in results by English and Scottish fans - and i'd be the first to agree that many England fans set their hopes too high - but on the other hand, it's a competition, if you're going into a competition as a top 4 team in Europe with the mindset of losing, then that's already giving up and it's not going to be anywhere near as exciting. On the other hand, if you're a Scottish fan, then of course you're not going to expect to bring home any trophies because the quality of the players and team is currently far behind the European top teams. Of course, as a fan, that doesn't mean you shouldn't be behind your team 100%. The difference here is, that if Scotland did make it to a final where England didn't? I'd be rooting for Scotland. I've a feeling in the same situation, you'd be rooting for whatever team England were playing against. I think for most Scottish football fans that is true, it was certainly my outlook for a long time yet I class myself as an Anglophile and lived in England for 25 years. Something snaps when it comes to English football, cricket and rugby teams and I cannot explain it. As Denis Law says he played a round of golf during the final in 66 and as he approached the clubhouse he saw fists raised and his heart sank. Liverpool training sessions in the 60s had to stop Scotland England games as it caused too many injuries. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 19, 2024 9:48:14 GMT
I’ve known Loony long enough to know that he hates the English but won’t admit it to the English … who he claims hates the Scot’s . As I said ..what a load of crap. Oh what a laugh, he comes out with a play on my name. I bet he doesn't know the Scots word and its meaning. As for the rest of your shit, I suggest you read, take in, and try to understand (I know it's difficult for you, but try anyway) what is written. Why would I hate the English people? You are just making it up as you go along Loony is as good as description as anything. You are quite transparent. No matter how much guff you post Scotland is still a shit football team . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 19, 2024 10:01:52 GMT
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Post by morayloon on Jul 19, 2024 15:25:53 GMT
Of that 7 nations you mention England comes last. Europe - Germany (incl.W) WC 4; Euros 3. Italy WC 3; ![]() ![]() Euros 2; France WC 2; Euros 2. Spain WC 1; Euros 4. England WC 1; Euros 0. South America - Brazil WC 5; SA Champs/Copa America 9. Argentina WC 3; SA Champ/Copa America 16. About Scotland's inability to win through to the knockout stages, the only answer is that we do not have players with enough ability to achieve that kind of performance. It was not always so. As I have said previously, the 74 squad was full of class players like Sandy Jardine, Danny McGrain, Billy Bremner, Kenny Dalglish, Joe Jordan, Peter Lorimer, Denis Law (by 74 he was almost at the end of his career). In the group the only wins were against Zaire, all the other matches were drawn. Scotland's win, in their first match, against Zaire was not enough to match Yugoslavia's 9-0 victory or the 3-0 Brazilian win. Three countries finished on four points, Scotland lost out on Goal Difference. Having only drawn 0-0 with Scotland, Brazil went on to take third place. Shooting themselves in the foot against weaker opposition was to occur again in the much hyped 1978 Finals. The team lost their opening match to group winners Peru. Then they, inexplicably, drew with Iran before beating the Dutch (who finished 2nd in the event). Scotland were again hit by the inability to score enough goals against the weakest country in the group, and went out on GD. Scotland also competed in 1982, 1986, 1990, 1998. www.scottishfa.co.uk/scotland/archive/scotland-at-major-tournaments/scotland-at-the-world-cup/As I said above, Scotland's poor performance in Germany came down to player ability. Few were playing at top level in England or Scotland: McTominay, Robertson and McGinn were the only ones playing for Top 10 English teams. There were some who were plying their trade overseas, of whom Ryan Porteous was playing at the highest kevel (Real Sociedad). Several of the others, though, did play in the Premier League albeit for lower placed teams: Ryan Christie (Bournemouth) & Billy Gilmour (Brighton). But, too many were from Championship Clubs: Angus Gunn & Grant Hanley (both Norwich), Che Adams (Southampton), Ryan Porteous (Watford). Compare this with 1974 when five of the squad were from English champions Leeds Utd. Other English based players were from lower 1st Division teams Man City and the relegated Man Utd. There were top home players like Sandy Jardine, Danny McGrain, David Hay, Kenny Dalglish & John Blackley, who played for Hibs. Hibs were knocked out of the UEFA Cup by Leeds but took them all the way, only to lose 5-4 on penalties. The difference here is, that if Scotland did make it to a final where England didn't? I'd be rooting for Scotland. I've a feeling in the same situation, you'd be rooting for whatever team England were playing against. I am on record, see previous posts, stating my support for Spain in the Final. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 21, 2024 6:15:57 GMT
Because you hate your fellow Brits who were still in the competition.
Same mentality as that arsehole Arthur Donaldson who supported NSDAP Germany against the UK in WW2 because of his hatred of the English.
This xenophobia will do you no good.
Sort out the Scotland team so Scotland can reach the finals of a major competition instead of racially abusing the English with stupid pictures.
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