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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2024 9:24:49 GMT
Hopefully Douglas Ross.
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Post by piglet on Jun 21, 2024 10:25:11 GMT
Baron you have taken leave of your senses, another swingeing judgeement from you, pray, give me an example of his bull. Indeeed, he is thee only authentic peerson around, the proof is in the pudding, that everyonee outside reeform hates him, a sure sign of him being spot on.
You will ignore this, as you ignore owt that you wish to ignore. It is you bull shitting.
Unleess we have truth, address reality we are all done,....ably demonstrateed by the bull shiiting tories and Labour. Yopur way off in many things......you get carrieed away by your brilliance.......its not about being real, its about mon baron.
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Post by borchester on Jun 21, 2024 15:50:45 GMT
Makes sense.
Dougie skipped a political debate to referee a football match. The Tories need more folk who understand the important things in life
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 21, 2024 17:19:51 GMT
Looking at the current polls of who will be left after the cull, i suspect the next tory party leader will be Nigel Farage
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 21, 2024 18:02:45 GMT
Baron you have taken leave of your senses, another swingeing judgeement from you, pray, give me an example of his bull. Indeeed, he is thee only authentic peerson around, the proof is in the pudding, that everyonee outside reeform hates him, a sure sign of him being spot on. You will ignore this, as you ignore owt that you wish to ignore. It is you bull shitting. Unleess we have truth, address reality we are all done,....ably demonstrateed by the bull shiiting tories and Labour. Yopur way off in many things......you get carrieed away by your brilliance.......its not about being real, its about mon baron. What Farage proposes and the way he proposes to do it will not work. I think you need to be able to handle a paradox here. There are two ways of looking at what Farage says. There is the real way, as in the essence of it, and the other way is a kind of superficial tickbox correctness. Lets start with the superficial tickbox analysis and just pick a point to make an example of how this works. He says "There are too many immigrants and we have to control them" . This is true and just about everyone knows this. If you were a Farage supporter you would be 100% OK on that.
Now looking at it how I do, I see him say these things because everyone knows it is true. He might as well say day follows night. Being able to state an obvious fact does not in any way indicate you have the foggiest how you are going to control it and what are the implications of your control measures. Taken in isolation the point is agreeable to the masses. The more detail you provide the less of the 100% who will still be in full agreement, so what he says is not to explain how he would do it , but just to get that tickbox OK with that. It is when you look at the other things he says that you see problems. For example, did he ever consider that his agreement to involve ourselves with Ukraine by sending arms would prolong the conflict and generate millions of asylum seekers.
Anyhow I could cite loads of problems with Farage, but this is basically the essence of it. He is playing people. He is a PR man. I don't think he has real management abilities and I don't think he has a broad education. He's had very little experience outside of politics. Lord Pearson was far smarter than he could ever be.
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Post by piglet on Jun 22, 2024 9:23:35 GMT
I regard the above as nonsense, its you splitting hairs and making 2 and 2 7. In the course of 15 hours things have changed, that Farage says that thee west is at fault with the Ukraine, something i find not defendable. Knowing your pro Russian sensibilities i wonder how you will process this.
Can i add before you reply in your deeep intellectual style, that all countries have the right to self determination, no matter wot Putin wants. That is not your view or Farages. I marvel at your trickiness, that for Faragee to say unlimited immigration is wrong, then turn it around to say its a trap, which is a lie.
At heart you deride what is truee and good, and turn it into dung, its your style, you re master any post to re engineeer it to put your stamp on it.
Psychologically it might be that you are attention seeking, showing off, or you are a genuine friend of those that will end deemocracy. As you arnt the brightest, i think its attention.
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Post by piglet on Jun 23, 2024 9:35:08 GMT
Didnt think you would reply.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 23, 2024 10:18:30 GMT
I regard the above as nonsense, its you splitting hairs and making 2 and 2 7. In the course of 15 hours things have changed, that Farage says that thee west is at fault with the Ukraine, something i find not defendable. Knowing your pro Russian sensibilities i wonder how you will process this. Can i add before you reply in your deeep intellectual style, that all countries have the right to self determination, no matter wot Putin wants. That is not your view or Farages. I marvel at your trickiness, that for Faragee to say unlimited immigration is wrong, then turn it around to say its a trap, which is a lie. At heart you deride what is truee and good, and turn it into dung, its your style, you re master any post to re engineeer it to put your stamp on it. Psychologically it might be that you are attention seeking, showing off, or you are a genuine friend of those that will end deemocracy. As you arnt the brightest, i think its attention. One thing Farage completely fails on is US interference in UK politics. Just because most people don't know what they do, does not mean Farage is correct to support them. Farage has very little understanding of global economics. He does of course get some things right, like saying the EU provoked Russia, but it is limited. He did not point out the US is controlling Nato and the EU. He has said nothing about the dollar reserve currency, the 1973 oil crisis and a million other things. It is as if he has some sort of mental block that steers around the root cause of the problem. As for woke, he never talks about Blackrock and Vanguard and their ESGs. |
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Post by piglet on Jun 23, 2024 10:32:11 GMT
Avoidance of the highest order, there is no point discussing owt, your in your own world.
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Post by patman post on Jun 23, 2024 15:10:53 GMT
That's the question posed in The Times today.
Assuming they are able to win their own seats, the front-runners per the Times are:
Penny Mordaunt Grant Shapps Kemi Badenoch Robert Jenrick Priti Patel Tom Tugendhat James Cleverly Suella Brawerman
Six members of an ethnic minority, with one of the two 'Natives' married to a US-born Israeli citizen and bringing his children up in the Jewish faith?
Is it any wonder that the Conservative Party, at least the parliamentary party, is in its death throes?
May depend on whether any of those are our Betters...
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2024 6:45:17 GMT
Why is Farage not on the list? The same reason Starmer isn't, he's not a member. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jun 27, 2024 7:52:04 GMT
It's a bit dependent on who gets elected - there will be a few casualties on that list. My suggestion would be Jacob Rees-Mogg as a caretaker leader. He has the respect of Parliament and he seems to get on with everyone. AND he's a genuine Conservative.
I'd also suggest that the experiment with an "ethic" leader has not worked. The people are not ready for this.
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Post by patman post on Jun 27, 2024 14:22:11 GMT
It's a bit dependent on who gets elected - there will be a few casualties on that list. My suggestion would be Jacob Rees-Mogg as a caretaker leader. He has the respect of Parliament and he seems to get on with everyone. AND he's a genuine Conservative. I'd also suggest that the experiment with an "ethic" leader has not worked. The people are not ready for this. Personally, I'd hope that all party leaders have a set of acceptable moral principles... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 29, 2024 6:48:26 GMT
It's a bit dependent on who gets elected - there will be a few casualties on that list. My suggestion would be Jacob Rees-Mogg as a caretaker leader. He has the respect of Parliament and he seems to get on with everyone. AND he's a genuine Conservative. Don't worry, Jacob is losing his seat. I'd also suggest that the experiment with an "ethic" leader has not worked. The people are not ready for this. If you do mean ethic, I would say he's been 1,000,000% better than Johnson, but has not been the virtuous PM he promised. If you mean ethnic, he was too ethnic for the Tories membership, despise being the choice of the parliamentary party. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 29, 2024 6:52:01 GMT
It's a bit dependent on who gets elected - there will be a few casualties on that list. My suggestion would be Jacob Rees-Mogg as a caretaker leader. He has the respect of Parliament and he seems to get on with everyone. AND he's a genuine Conservative. Don't worry, Jacob is losing his seat. I'd also suggest that the experiment with an "ethic" leader has not worked. The people are not ready for this. If you do mean ethic, I would say he's been 1,000,000% better than Johnson, but has not been the virtuous PM he promised. If you mean ethnic, he was too ethnic for the Tories membership, despise being the choice of the parliamentary party. The membership wanted the Black girl...I think she is pretty ethnic..  |
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