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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 3, 2022 22:35:18 GMT
I think that depends if you live in london why? Because they can make a informed opioion because they live there . |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 3, 2022 22:38:22 GMT
Because they can make a informed opioion because they live there . So you never have an opinion on any place you visit? For example I don't like Blackpool but only people from Blackpool are allowed to say whether its any good or not... |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 3, 2022 22:47:25 GMT
No off course not but it depends on your options is built on there some would say on here that will say they never go to london because they might get mugged .yet we have people who live in london feel perfectly safe .
Also there some who think certain areas of London are no go areas for whites what a load of nonsense
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Post by zanygame on Dec 3, 2022 22:56:43 GMT
Because they can make a informed opioion because they live there . So you never have an opinion on any place you visit? For example I don't like Blackpool but only people from Blackpool are allowed to say whether its any good or not... London is no different to any large city. It is beautiful and tragic. Full of wonderful kind people and nasty wicked ones. Those generous of spirit and those small minded and mean spirited. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 3, 2022 23:03:27 GMT
So you never have an opinion on any place you visit? Londonxample I don't like Blackpool but only people from Blackpool are allowed to say whether its any good or not... London is no different to any large city. It is beautiful and tragic. Full of wonderful kind people and nasty wicked ones. Those generous of spirit and those small minded and mean spirited. London Is one of the safest city in Europe if not the world despite it large population and diverse community. millions of people vist london every yesr. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 4, 2022 8:01:37 GMT
No off course not but it depends on your options is built on there some would say on here that will say they never go to london because they might get mugged .yet we have people who live in london feel perfectly safe . Also there some who think certain areas of London are no go areas for whites what a load of nonsense But that was not the question - has mass immigration improved London? Unless you are trying to claim that mass immigration has driven crime down... |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 4, 2022 8:06:36 GMT
I don't mind it not being a priority. I mind them lying all the time. As regards immigration all parties have been lying for 60 years to my knowledge. Crossman lied about numbers to take the wind out of Powell's sails. The question is why have they been lying for 60 years. If any of them were actually going to do anything about it, it would have been decades ago. So they lied and created a whole system around it including charities which run like multinational corporations, where the big money is made from it tax free. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 8:42:00 GMT
No off course not but it depends on your options is built on there some would say on here that will say they never go to london because they might get mugged .yet we have people who live in london feel perfectly safe . Also there some who think certain areas of London are no go areas for whites what a load of nonsense But that was not the question - has mass immigration improved London? Unless you are trying to claim that mass immigration has driven crime down... How can anyone answer that without eliminating a thousand other factors. What is sickening here is that you single out immigration for your question. Two questions: 1, Do you think London is worse today than 5 years ago. 2, What do you think are the prime causes. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 4, 2022 9:01:52 GMT
But that was not the question - has mass immigration improved London? Unless you are trying to claim that mass immigration has driven crime down... How can anyone answer that without eliminating a thousand other factors. What is sickening here is that you single out immigration for your question. Two questions: 1, Do you think London is worse today than 5 years ago. 2, What do you think are the prime causes. 1) Yes 2) Immigration. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 4, 2022 9:05:03 GMT
Why sandie what gives you that opinion?
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Post by sandypine on Dec 4, 2022 9:21:44 GMT
Why sadie what gives you that opinion? Well just observing the figures as regards foreign born nationals in UK prisons, or the ethnicity of those in UK prisons. Now I know all the arguments as regards institutional racism in the Judiciary and police etc etc and I am not judging on that basis but if immigration was low level then these major apparent problems would not have arisen. So whether high levels of immigrant offence is the fault of immigrants, or the fault of racist police and judges, or a mix of each in any varying quantity if we did not have large scale immigration the problem would not have occurred in anything like the proportions we have. It was also evident in the 2011 riots that groups tended to coalesce together to protect their own and their neighbourhoods and in the main the rioters were not white people. Again even if the reason for that is white racism then if we did not have large scale immigration that would not be a problem. So blaming immigration is not blaming immigrants, it is blaming those who think lots of different peoples will always live in peace and harmony and that diversity is a wonderful happy clappy start to Utopia. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 4, 2022 9:28:31 GMT
Why sadie what gives you that opinion? Well just observing the figures as regards foreign born nationals in UK prisons, or the ethnicity of those in UK prisons. Now I know all the arguments as regards institutional racism in the Judiciary and police etc etc and I am not judging on that basis but if immigration was low level then these major apparent problems would not have arisen. So whether high levels of immigrant offence is the fault of immigrants, or the fault of racist police and judges, or a mix of each in any varying quantity if we did not have large scale immigration the problem would not have occurred in anything like the proportions we have. It was also evident in the 2011 riots that groups tended to coalesce together to protect their own and their neighbourhoods and in the main the rioters were not white people. Again even if the reason for that is white racism then if we did not have large scale immigration that would not be a problem. So blaming immigration is not blaming immigrants, it is blaming those who think lots of different peoples will always live in peace and harmony and that diversity is a wonderful happy clappy start to Utopia. I think you need to look at economic circumstances. if you do you will find this is the deciding factor in crime rather than nationality. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 4, 2022 9:35:41 GMT
Why sadie what giimmigrationhat opinion? Well just observing the figures as regards foreign born nationals in UK prisons, or the ethnicity of those in UK prisons. Now I know all the arguments as regards institutional racism in the Judiciary and police etc etc and I am not judging on that basis but if immigration was low level then these major apparent problems would not have arisen. So whether high levels of immigrant offence is the fault of immigrants, or the fault of racist police and judges, or a mix of each in any varying quantity if we did not have large scale immigration the problem would not have occurred in anything like the proportions we have. It was also evident in the 2011 riots that groups tended to coalesce together to protect their own and their neighbourhoods and in the main the rioters were not white people. Again even if the reason for that is white racism then if we did not have large scale immigration that would not be a problem. So blaming immigration is not blaming immigrants, it is blaming those who think lots of different peoples will always live in peace and harmony and that diversity is a wonderful happy clappy start to Utopia. In 2013 and 2020 Glasgow was dubbed has the homicide capital of Europe why was that . is that down to immigration ? |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 4, 2022 9:39:04 GMT
Well just observing the figures as regards foreign born nationals in UK prisons, or the ethnicity of those in UK prisons. Now I know all the arguments as regards institutional racism in the Judiciary and police etc etc and I am not judging on that basis but if immigration was low level then these major apparent problems would not have arisen. So whether high levels of immigrant offence is the fault of immigrants, or the fault of racist police and judges, or a mix of each in any varying quantity if we did not have large scale immigration the problem would not have occurred in anything like the proportions we have. It was also evident in the 2011 riots that groups tended to coalesce together to protect their own and their neighbourhoods and in the main the rioters were not white people. Again even if the reason for that is white racism then if we did not have large scale immigration that would not be a problem. So blaming immigration is not blaming immigrants, it is blaming those who think lots of different peoples will always live in peace and harmony and that diversity is a wonderful happy clappy start to Utopia. In 2013 and 2020 Glasgow was dubbed has the homicide capital of Europe why was that . is that down to immigration ? Probably down to drugs supplied by immigrants. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 4, 2022 9:39:17 GMT
Well just observing the figures as regards foreign born nationals in UK prisons, or the ethnicity of those in UK prisons. Now I know all the arguments as regards institutional racism in the Judiciary and police etc etc and I am not judging on that basis but if immigration was low level then these major apparent problems would not have arisen. So whether high levels of immigrant offence is the fault of immigrants, or the fault of racist police and judges, or a mix of each in any varying quantity if we did not have large scale immigration the problem would not have occurred in anything like the proportions we have. It was also evident in the 2011 riots that groups tended to coalesce together to protect their own and their neighbourhoods and in the main the rioters were not white people. Again even if the reason for that is white racism then if we did not have large scale immigration that would not be a problem. So blaming immigration is not blaming immigrants, it is blaming those who think lots of different peoples will always live in peace and harmony and that diversity is a wonderful happy clappy start to Utopia. I think you need to look at economic circumstances. if you do you will find this is the deciding factor in crime rather than nationality. It may well be a factor, I am not denying it but if one ethnic group is unsettled because in the main they are economically less well off that is the result of immigration. Ethnic differences create reasons to be angry, rightly or wrongly, that is just a fact for all groups and increasing the numbers of those differences and the numbers of each group will obviously create more unrest. |
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