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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 12:13:12 GMT
Cloud Cuckoo Land The United States is the worlds NUMBER 1 producer of Beef, and is the worlds 5th largest exporter of Beef, but it is not only for this reason that UK Beef exports to the US will never become big business. THe US market for Beef is led by Corn Fed Beef, unheard of in the United Kingdom, and even I know that the flavour and taste of corn fed beef is far superior to British grassland Beef. Why do people believe that doing business with nations on the other side of the world, or across the Atlantic, is more favourable than doing business with your neighbours. The flavour difference is a matter of taste and varies as much from breeds as from diet. Grass fed is healthier for both the cattle and the consumer. Aberdeen Angus is a world renowned meat and that's grass fed. We have salt water marsh cattle on some parts of the Norfolk Broads that fetch a premium price for their meat because of the high salt content of their diet. The USA beef or Steer as they call it are not ALL corn fed maybe you could explain how the Cinabar ranch alone could feed 4.5 million cattle on corn that roam freely on over 25 million acres of land and there are dozens of cattle ranches of that magnitude in the South West of the USA. Very few cattle are corn fed in the USA and feed from the open prairies. Now chicken that is different ball game and the majority are corn fed. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 12:26:33 GMT
They have doen a pretty good job on trying to penalise te UK since we had the audacity to leave.. And I think Hungary, Italy and Greece would argue they are a dictatorship look how they lay the law down on those countries. The eu are the instigators of their own demise the way it is going. There is no doubt whatsoever this is what the EU intended, and with that 'negotiations' were always doomed from the start. However, the media and fifth column in the UK could only blame Britain for any actions/decisions in relation to the EU's intentions made thereafter - otherwise known as cause and effect. You can go back as far as Elmer Brock and Verhofstadt toasting over a glass of wine how they'd be able to snare the UK into a Custom Union until they decided it was time to leave, inferring it would never be time. Macron too, also said he'd entrap the UK in a Custom Union in perpetuity if the UK didn't kneel to French and EU demands. People - mainly MSM and fifth column tend to forget the lengths the EU went to in order to make leaving the EU a mammoth task - when it should have been anything but. The Commission and the rest of the bureaucracy didn't taken kindly to the UK's democratic vote, which they saw as a kick in the guts. During the Protocol implementation Coveney let the cat out the bag when the EU's desire to divert trade from N. Ireland to the EU came to light, as he remarked: 'grace periods were in place to enable supermarkets to ‘readapt their supply chains and accept new realities’. Ignoring completely the provisions in Article 16 that specifically enable parties involved to prevent such diversions. The EU's poor/bad faith since the beginning of Brexit hasn't been forgotten, even though MSM and fifth columnists would have you believe otherwise - it's no wonder many people regard this behemoth as a 'dictatorship'. The eu have done nothing to instill a good relationship with the UK and have put every obstacle in the way of a good deal for the UK after Brexit out of nothing more than petty vindictiveness. Look at their own pettyness over Covid vacinnes alone whithout the crap they are trying to force the UK into over Ireland. It's time the UK walked away and left them to stew in their self made quamire. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 13:32:06 GMT
Oh lord. This is painful to watch. Then don't watch. This is just a momer we are dealing with who cannot operate without a BS red triangle.
Every thread somehow becomes a referendum on UKDebate membership it seems. 
Proof please? Their meat has been banned until recently and they're restarting feeding some (non cattle) livestock processed animal protein?
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 14:44:07 GMT
Then don't watch. This is just a momer we are dealing with who cannot operate without a BS red triangle.
Every thread somehow becomes a referendum on UKDebate membership it seems.
Proof please? Their meat has been banned until recently and they're restarting feeding some (non cattle) livestock processed animal protein?
Conditions for the export of pork and beef from the EU to the USA The authorities responsible for the import of food, including meat, for the US market are: the FDA (U.S. Food & Drug Administration), and the FSIS (Food Safety and Inspection Service), an organizational unit of the USDA – (United States Department of Agriculture). The rules regarding production, production supervision and export of food to the USA have been included in a number of legal acts, including the Federal Meat Inspection Act (MIA), the Law on Modernization of Food Safety (Modernization Act), as well as in the relevant FSIS and Federal Code of Conduct Regulations
BSE hasn’t gone away, so why has the EU lifted a ban on feeding animals to other animals?
The EU has just lifted a ban on feeding animals byproducts of animal-based food production that has been in place for nearly 30 years following the BSE crisis of the 1990s that led to people dying from vCJD. Are we really going to ignore the lessons of the past?
Considering how huge an impact the terrifying BSE crisis of the 1990s had not just on the UK public and our farming industry, but on France and other important export markets for British beef, there has been relatively little media coverage of the EU Council’s decision last month to drop a ban on feeding animals the byproducts of animal-based food production
Not sure why you want the links again?
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Post by Steve on Oct 12, 2022 15:16:26 GMT
Or in short, the Republic of Ireland an EU nation is able to export meat to the USA so there is no bar on the EU nations exporting to the USA
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 17:37:27 GMT
Or in short, the Republic of Ireland an EU nation is able to export meat to the USA so there is no bar on the EU nations exporting to the USA What part of they do not feed their cattle ofal the same as the South is it that eludes you? Read the bloody link I provided, Me and my partner will ge going to the USA next month for thanks giving, this will be the first time we will be able to take Angus beef to the USA whithout getting special custom clearance.. Twist and turn all you like the bloody eu have shot themselves in the foot yet again.....Why you would want to support that shower rather than your own country is known only to you... |
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Post by Steve on Oct 12, 2022 19:12:33 GMT
I suggest you read your own link and then the complete nonsense story you made up and see how they don't match
You say the EU broke their own rules: no they revised their rules just like we revise our laws from time to time
You say the EU can't export meat to the USA: yet the EU Nation Republic of Ireland does
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to throw at the EU, when you keep making up obvious false stories about the EU it has the ironic effect of making people believe any criticism is just made up shite.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 20:00:13 GMT
I suggest you read your own link and then the complete nonsense story you made up and see how they don't match You say the EU broke their own rules: no they revised their rules just like we revise our laws from time to time You say the EU can't export meat to the USA: yet the EU Nation Republic of Ireland does There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to throw at the EU, when you keep making up obvious false stories about the EU it has the ironic effect of making people believe any criticism is just made up shite. Whats made up about it? You just hate to see your own country have any success. Why don't you and your like Piss off to your beloved EUSSR if you like it so much? You brag on the other forum you have a German car. I would rather walk than buy a peice of crap from the eu that is probably designed to rig emmision numbers. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 12, 2022 20:24:15 GMT
Can I suggest you actually try debating a topic using truthful and relevant points.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 13, 2022 0:58:23 GMT
Can I suggest you actually try debating a topic using truthful and relevant points. Can I suggest you cut the BS and accept that your belived EUSSR have shot themselves in the foot over this. Get over it for once you can't abuse your own authority here. We can export meat to the USA and the eu cannot......Good innit? |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 13, 2022 1:44:00 GMT
Strictly speaking grass is a grain. Our grass fed cows get a bit of rolled wheat when they are in the cowshed over Winter to increase their protein intake. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 13, 2022 10:21:23 GMT
Can I suggest you actually try debating a topic using truthful and relevant points. Can I suggest you cut the BS and accept that your belived EUSSR have shot themselves in the foot over this. Get over it for once you can't abuse your own authority here. We can export meat to the USA and the eu cannot......Good innit? So you're STILL are in denial that the Republic of Ireland is in the EU and can export meat there. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 13, 2022 10:31:01 GMT
Can I suggest you cut the BS and accept that your belived EUSSR have shot themselves in the foot over this. Get over it for once you can't abuse your own authority here. We can export meat to the USA and the eu cannot......Good innit? So you're STILL are in denial that the Republic of Ireland is in the EU and can export meat there. It's you who is in denial. I have better things to do than feed trolls. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 13, 2022 10:36:40 GMT
Strictly speaking grass is a grain. Our grass fed cows get a bit of rolled wheat when they are in the cowshed over Winter to increase their protein intake. American beef is only rounded up and put in the holding pens ready to be shipped they are only in there for a few days at most and off they go that is the only time they do not feed from the praire. But what this has todo with the fact that the UK can ow export beef to the USA after a 20 yeasr ban is only known to those who hate to see the UK succeed and any good news after brexit. |
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