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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 21:13:49 GMT
(..) Why do people believe that doing business with nations on the other side of the world, or across the Atlantic, is more favourable than doing business with your neighbours. Who said it was? And why can't we do business with both?
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Post by Vinny on Oct 11, 2022 21:25:59 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Oct 11, 2022 22:03:06 GMT
And yet seems you can't find one and the one you posted shows they did not break their own rules. Meantime Ireland (an EU nation) is exporting meat to the USA
Ireland is in the UK and we left the eu... And there are plenty of links out there look them up yourself. They but the ban in place and are now ignoring it and even lifting it in some countries.
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Post by Steve on Oct 11, 2022 22:06:30 GMT
And yet seems you can't find one and the one you posted shows they did not break their own rules. Meantime Ireland (an EU nation) is exporting meat to the USA
Ireland is in the UK and we left the eu... And there are plenty of links out there look them up yourself. They but the ban in place and are now ignoring it and even lifting it in some countries.
'Ireland is in the UK' What you going to tell us next, that Queen Victoria is still on the throne?
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Post by jonksy on Oct 11, 2022 22:07:31 GMT
If the EU was a dictatorship, they wouldn't have let us leave. I don't particularly like it, I grant you (and I voted leave). But it's not a dictatorship, it needs a phenomenal amount of reform, but it isn't a dictatorship. They have doen a pretty good job on trying to penalise te UK since we had the audacity to leave.. And I think Hungary, Italy and Greece would argue they are a dictatorship look how they lay the law down on those countries. The eu are the instigators of their own demise the way it is going.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 1:06:46 GMT
Cloud Cuckoo Land The United States is the worlds NUMBER 1 producer of Beef, and is the worlds 5th largest exporter of Beef, but it is not only for this reason that UK Beef exports to the US will never become big business. THe US market for Beef is led by Corn Fed Beef, unheard of in the United Kingdom, and even I know that the flavour and taste of corn fed beef is far superior to British grassland Beef. Why do people believe that doing business with nations on the other side of the world, or across the Atlantic, is more favourable than doing business with your neighbours. Most US beef is prairie fed. It's chicken that are corn fed in the USA hence the colour of chicken meat in the US which tends to have a more yellow complexion than white.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 1:09:25 GMT
If the EU was a dictatorship, they wouldn't have let us leave. I don't particularly like it, I grant you (and I voted leave). But it's not a dictatorship, it needs a phenomenal amount of reform, but it isn't a dictatorship. They have doen a pretty good job on trying to penalise te UK since we had the audacity to leave.. And I think Hungary, Italy and Greece would argue they are a dictatorship look how they lay the law down on those countries. The eu are the instigators of their own demise the way it is going. They seem to be the ones who put hurdles in the way.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 1:14:32 GMT
'Ireland is in the UK' What you going to tell us next, that Queen Victoria is still on the throne? Maybe you should tell that to the Irish that support the Royal family. The demise of our queen was an eye opener not only for the Irish but the Scots also. The UK are more untited than ever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2022 2:21:39 GMT
Oh lord. This is painful to watch.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 12, 2022 3:28:31 GMT
Cloud Cuckoo Land The United States is the worlds NUMBER 1 producer of Beef, and is the worlds 5th largest exporter of Beef, but it is not only for this reason that UK Beef exports to the US will never become big business. THe US market for Beef is led by Corn Fed Beef, unheard of in the United Kingdom, and even I know that the flavour and taste of corn fed beef is far superior to British grassland Beef. Why do people believe that doing business with nations on the other side of the world, or across the Atlantic, is more favourable than doing business with your neighbours. The flavour difference is a matter of taste and varies as much from breeds as from diet. Grass fed is healthier for both the cattle and the consumer. Aberdeen Angus is a world renowned meat and that's grass fed. We have salt water marsh cattle on some parts of the Norfolk Broads that fetch a premium price for their meat because of the high salt content of their diet.
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Post by Toreador on Oct 12, 2022 5:57:38 GMT
That's a good thing however financially it's not going to be a big boost to farming. Yes £13M a year of beef and a fraction of the £7M a year lamb market really are niff naff and trivia to an ~$3T economy. But as Tesco say: every little helps It helps so much that I've all but stopped using Tesco.
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Post by Steve on Oct 12, 2022 8:18:34 GMT
'Ireland is in the UK' What you going to tell us next, that Queen Victoria is still on the throne? Maybe you should tell that to the Irish that support the Royal family. The demise of our queen was an eye opener not only for the Irish but the Scots also. The UK are more untited than ever. Look like it or not 'Ireland' is a recognised shorthand for the Republic of Ireland (an EU nation) who have been exporting meat to the USA this year. So your assertion that EU nations could not export meat there was false. As was your purported reason imagining the Eu had broken their own rules.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 12, 2022 8:39:39 GMT
Northern Ireland is in the UK, the Republic of Ireland is not, it is in the EU.
Ireland could vote to leave the EU. It could vote to join us in a free trade area. But it has not. It remains in the EU, the Customs Union and that is a problem for Northern Ireland.
Northern Ireland could leave the UK and join the Republic, that would solve it, but mentals there who have never set foot on our island, wish to be "British". And they say this in the thickest of Northern Irish accents.
Because of the troubles of the past, our politicians have gone soft.
We don't need Northern Ireland, but as long as they wish to be "British", we're obliged to try to please them (even though there is no pleasing them). We did a deal which has upset the unionists.
I don't really care about the unionists or the Republicans. There's a deal. They can approach it democratically if they wish to change it, and put it to the people.
There are bigger issues than the Northern Ireland / RoI customs border.
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 12, 2022 9:01:26 GMT
If the EU was a dictatorship, they wouldn't have let us leave. I don't particularly like it, I grant you (and I voted leave). But it's not a dictatorship, it needs a phenomenal amount of reform, but it isn't a dictatorship. They have doen a pretty good job on trying to penalise te UK since we had the audacity to leave.. And I think Hungary, Italy and Greece would argue they are a dictatorship look how they lay the law down on those countries. The eu are the instigators of their own demise the way it is going. There is no doubt whatsoever this is what the EU intended, and with that 'negotiations' were always doomed from the start. However, the media and fifth column in the UK could only blame Britain for any actions/decisions in relation to the EU's intentions made thereafter - otherwise known as cause and effect. You can go back as far as Elmer Brock and Verhofstadt toasting over a glass of wine how they'd be able to snare the UK into a Custom Union until they decided it was time to leave, inferring it would never be time. Macron too, also said he'd entrap the UK in a Custom Union in perpetuity if the UK didn't kneel to French and EU demands. People - mainly MSM and fifth column tend to forget the lengths the EU went to in order to make leaving the EU a mammoth task - when it should have been anything but. The Commission and the rest of the bureaucracy didn't taken kindly to the UK's democratic vote, which they saw as a kick in the guts. During the Protocol implementation Coveney let the cat out the bag when the EU's desire to divert trade from N. Ireland to the EU came to light, as he remarked: 'grace periods were in place to enable supermarkets to ‘readapt their supply chains and accept new realities’. Ignoring completely the provisions in Article 16 that specifically enable parties involved to prevent such diversions. The EU's poor/bad faith since the beginning of Brexit hasn't been forgotten, even though MSM and fifth columnists would have you believe otherwise - it's no wonder many people regard this behemoth as a 'dictatorship'.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 12, 2022 12:10:19 GMT
Oh lord. This is painful to watch. Then don't watch. This is just a momer we are dealing with who cannot operate without a BS red triangle. Northern Ireland and Souther Ireland stopped feeding their live stock with oval the same as the UK hence their meat is allowed into the USA.
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