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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 22, 2024 14:23:55 GMT
From an article in the Times a couple of days ago, any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver will get a licence to use UK roads, and if there is a crash where the vehicle is at fault then the liability falls on the manufacturer, not the owner. I presume in this case there would not be any need for insurance since you pay the risk factor in the purchase price. This makes it a high incentive for the manufacturer to make these things as safe as possible since they will be made to foot the bill. It cuts out a load of rip-off insurance firms and it means that there will be less road accidents, where stats say currently 88% of road accidents are human error. Imagine if human error were completely eliminated. The costs of hospital treatments, ambulances, disability costs and a ton of crap would be saved and people could merrily drink and drive without unwelcome Old Bill. We could even raise the speed limits and reduce the need to build new roads.
I'm so glad the UK has made this decision now rather than dragging its feet. It puts the UK on par almost with China who announced their car driving tests just recently. The first signs of these vehicles will be delivery companies like food delivery from supermarkets. This will bring delivery costs right now. Last mile delivery is the most expensive part of online shopping. Well done!
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Post by Pacifico on May 22, 2024 17:08:42 GMT
"any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver will get a licence to use UK roads"
Well as that is not going to happen by 2026 - a pointless charade.
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Post by distant on May 22, 2024 17:18:34 GMT
Oh wow, I'll be able to go out and get pissed out of my head.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 22, 2024 19:03:55 GMT
Oh wow, I'll be able to go out and get pissed out of my head. Yes it would be amazing. The cars are voice operated, so you just say, take me to the nearest pub and you are there. I used to do long boring drives up the MI and M6 London to Manchester. I could have done with simply sleeping in the back for a few hours and waking up upon arrival. Leccy cars are very quiet too. |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 22, 2024 19:11:52 GMT
Oh wow, I'll be able to go out and get pissed out of my head. This was my thoughts A fleet of these things, summoned by the wives or mates of the inebriated, to pick up the lashed at their point of inebriation and dump them out in the street at the programmed postcode. Kitted out in industrial grade rubber trim so it can go straight to the car wash to sluice out the vomit and back on the job as soon as the power drier finishes the job I'll make a bloody fortune |
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Post by Bentley on May 22, 2024 20:48:33 GMT
It’ll be a while before “ any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver “.
Also reasonably confident drivers cause accidents every day, some of them fatal .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 23, 2024 9:04:44 GMT
It’ll be a while before “ any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver “. Also reasonably confident drivers cause accidents every day, some of them fatal . Which is better: less accidents and deaths with some of those deaths by machine or more deaths and all of them human error? |
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Post by Equivocal on May 23, 2024 11:31:06 GMT
It’ll be a while before “ any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver “. Also reasonably confident drivers cause accidents every day, some of them fatal . Let's hope they work better than predictive text generators. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 23, 2024 12:39:38 GMT
It’ll be a while before “ any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver “. Also reasonably confident drivers cause accidents every day, some of them fatal . Let's hope they work better than predictive text generators. I've seen a demonstration of one. It drive like a driving instructor would. that's not to say they are all this good, but the one I saw would make me feel confident of taking a ride in it. It was dring in a city as well and had to do a few complicated manoeuvres. |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 13:31:59 GMT
It’ll be a while before “ any vehicle that can display the same driving safety as a reasonably confident adult driver “. Also reasonably confident drivers cause accidents every day, some of them fatal . Which is better: less accidents and deaths with some of those deaths by machine or more deaths and all of them human error? You are making an assumption there. |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 13:33:44 GMT
Let's hope they work better than predictive text generators. I've seen a demonstration of one. It drive like a driving instructor would. that's not to say they are all this good, but the one I saw would make me feel confident of taking a ride in it. It was dring in a city as well and had to do a few complicated manoeuvres. Whatever demonstration you have seen was within the boundaries where the demonstration is perfect . Ive seen lots of demonstrations like that . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 23, 2024 14:02:07 GMT
Which is better: less accidents and deaths with some of those deaths by machine or more deaths and all of them human error? You are making an assumption there. You measure it and if the auto cars are worse they lose their licences. The thing is technology only ever gets improved upon where for people, they don't get better over time. |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 14:13:29 GMT
You are making an assumption there. You measure it and if the auto cars are worse they lose their licences. The thing is technology only ever gets improved upon where for people, they don't get better over time. Doesn’t alter the fact that you made an assumption . You made another assumption that the public will tolerate a higher rate of accidents in order for technology to reduce it. It’s the same argument the net zero nuts tell us about EVs . They are shit now but if we keep buying them they will be less shit . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 23, 2024 14:41:10 GMT
You measure it and if the auto cars are worse they lose their licences. The thing is technology only ever gets improved upon where for people, they don't get better over time. Doesn’t alter the fact that you made an assumption . You made another assumption that the public will tolerate a higher rate of accidents in order for technology to reduce it. It’s the same argument the net zero nuts tell us about EVs . They are shit now but if we keep buying them they will be less shit . You build one and make it better. You seem to know better than the world's top technicians. |
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 15:14:03 GMT
Doesn’t alter the fact that you made an assumption . You made another assumption that the public will tolerate a higher rate of accidents in order for technology to reduce it. It’s the same argument the net zero nuts tell us about EVs . They are shit now but if we keep buying them they will be less shit . You build one and make it better. You seem to know better than the world's top technicians. The worlds top technicians have yet to produce a totally reliable self driving car. That’s a fact . You are making a series of assumptions so you must think that you know better than the worlds top technicians . Of course you do … |
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