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Post by see2 on May 18, 2024 8:25:58 GMT
Afaik Jews were not instructed by God to make everyone Jewish and Christianity ( in the West) has been rinsed of anything deemed to be ‘ politically incorrect . They tolerate blasphemy as meekly as they tolerate sodomy etc .Muslims are in a league of their own . Well Judaism states the Jews are the "chosen of God" which is the fundamental reason Israel lies to everyone, even those it claims as friends. If you are not Jewish you are worthy of only two things: exploitation and contempt. Far more pernicious that being proselyting in the way Christianity was, and Islam is. But I stand by my position, three rotten fruits from the same rotten tree. All The Best A very strange comment considering Israel is a secular country. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 18, 2024 8:26:28 GMT
I'd vote for the annihilation of anyone who voted for Susan Hall.
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Post by jonksy on May 18, 2024 8:30:51 GMT
I'd vote for the annihilation of anyone who voted for Susan Hall. She must be well worth voting for if that's the case. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:37:30 GMT
I'd vote for the annihilation of anyone who voted for Susan Hall. Steady on Andrew. your hatred is showing. |
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Post by om15 on May 18, 2024 8:37:54 GMT
Is that because she is a white Christian woman who doesn't properly reflect the multi cultural vibrant cess pit that is London? Muslims are steadily assuming the positions on councils and winning mayoral elections, what do you suppose their aim might be. I very much doubt whether Susan Hall would promote Sharia law taking precedence over English Common Law, if you wish to replace trial by jury and the re-introduction of putting people to death for homosexuality then don't vote for Susan Hall.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 18, 2024 8:41:21 GMT
I'd vote for the annihilation of anyone who voted for Susan Hall. Steady on Andrew. your hatred is showing. Come to the dark side. We have cookies. |
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2024 10:23:29 GMT
Ethnic cleansing is wrong but if it’s the only answer to eradicating a group that wants to ethnic cleanse YOU then it’s understandable, if not desirable.
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Post by Pacifico on May 18, 2024 10:48:41 GMT
Well the logic that you continually refuse to engage with, is that every time there has been an offer of a 2 state solution for the past 87 years the Palestinians have refused to accept it. All you have to offer is your deranged desire for the destruction of Israel. Well, maybe they have refused them because all of those agreement allow Israel to maintain the illegal settlements in the West Bank. Of the two current. recognised Governments in this conflict only one has accepted in principle the need for a 2SS - and it wasn't Israel. The Palestinians turned down 2 state proposals that didnt give Israel a square inch of the West Bank long before Hamas or Likud came to power. At some point you are going to have to accept some facts. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 18, 2024 20:00:53 GMT
Well the logic that you continually refuse to engage with, is that every time there has been an offer of a 2 state solution for the past 87 years the Palestinians have refused to accept it. All you have to offer is your deranged desire for the destruction of Israel.I've never encountered somebody so obsessed for the destruction of the Jews in Israel. The Left are collectively backing him, too. Well, there must be at least three huge, demonstrable, lies there. 1) I've never called for, or implied I desire, the destruction of Israel. 2) I am not even close to being on the Left. 3) Every Hamas members ever, and Benjamin Netanyahu, are quite clearly more obsessed with the destruction of Israel. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 18, 2024 20:13:23 GMT
Well, maybe they have refused them because all of those agreement allow Israel to maintain the illegal settlements in the West Bank. Of the two current. recognised Governments in this conflict only one has accepted in principle the need for a 2SS - and it wasn't Israel. The Palestinians turned down 2 state proposals that didnt give Israel a square inch of the West Bank long before Hamas or Likud came to power. At some point you are going to have to accept some facts. Yes, I know. But you are now resorting the see2's wholly dishonest debating technique and picking a point in history where the side you support was "the good guy" and the other side was "the bad guy" and totally ignoring that almost everything has changed since then. Both sides have and continue to be "the bad guy" for different reasons, in different places. I am not the one ignoring facts. You are the one ignoring facts that don't show Israel as a perpetual victim. Israel has been the victim, it has also been the oppressor and aggressor. The current situation is: The recognised government of Palestine accept the need for a 2SS - this makes them, potentially at least, part of the solution. The recognised government of Israel denies the need for a 2SS - this makes them part of the problem. Hamas and other Islamist extremists deny the need for a 2SS - this makes them part of the problem. Any path forward that hopes to bring about even the faintest glimmer of peace MUST accept that. Don't you find it even slightly uncomfortable that the side you have chosen to support travels down the same path as Hamas? I would have thought any genuine supporter of Israel (rather than supporter of current Israeli regime) would be horrified by that. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 18, 2024 20:15:48 GMT
Ethnic cleansing is wrong but if it’s the only answer to eradicating a group that wants to ethnic cleanse YOU then it’s understandable, if not desirable. You theory posits a situation where one side or the other is going to have to carry out war crimes to achieve victory. If you are correct, and I do not believe you are even close to correct, what then is the difference between supporting Israel and supporting Hamas? All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2024 20:22:01 GMT
Ethnic cleansing is wrong but if it’s the only answer to eradicating a group that wants to ethnic cleanse YOU then it’s understandable, if not desirable. You theory posits a situation where one side or the other is going to have to carry out war crimes to achieve victory. If you are correct, and I do not believe you are even close to correct, what then is the difference between supporting Israel and supporting Hamas? All The Best That’s an extremely good question and a very important one . Im going to give you a short answer that might appear crass and incomplete but only because I have purposely made it short and incomplete. I support Israel because I believe it is better for me and mine if Israel wins . |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 18, 2024 20:22:33 GMT
Is that because she is a white Christian woman who doesn't properly reflect the multi cultural vibrant cess pit that is London? Muslims are steadily assuming the positions on councils and winning mayoral elections, what do you suppose their aim might be. I very much doubt whether Susan Hall would promote Sharia law taking precedence over English Common Law, if you wish to replace trial by jury and the re-introduction of putting people to death for homosexuality then don't vote for Susan Hall. There's a way to avoid this. Have an explicit, written, and codified Constitution that prohibits Sharia Law ever being giving precedence over English Common Law. Outlaw Sharia Tribunals - as they can return verdicts that are contrary to English Common Law, and the ECHR. Make anyone standing on a Pro Sharia Law platform ineligible from ever holding Public Office. Then do the same with Beth Din courts, and any and all other "Courts / Tribunals" that run at odds to the ENnglish Common Law Make it clear to all citizens that English Common and Criminal Law is the ONLY Law that is, or will be valid within England. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 18, 2024 20:24:02 GMT
You theory posits a situation where one side or the other is going to have to carry out war crimes to achieve victory. If you are correct, and I do not believe you are even close to correct, what then is the difference between supporting Israel and supporting Hamas? All The Best That’s an extremely good question and a very important one . Im going to give you a short answer that might appear crass and incomplete but only because I have purposely made it short and incomplete. I support Israel because I believe it is better for me and mine if Israel wins . Fair enough, thank you for an honest answer. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2024 20:32:20 GMT
It’s just occurred to me that my answer to PV might indicate that I’m a Jew . I’m not .
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