ginnyg2
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Post by ginnyg2 on May 16, 2024 9:53:00 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13386393/Muslim-vote-list-demands-Keir-Starmer-Labour-Gaza-Palestine.html#commentsThanks to uncontrolled immigration and breeding habits we now have a large Muslim population. This is not usually a problem as many Muslims just want to keep their heads down and earn a crust like the rest of us. Problems do arise however when it comes to voting. As we live in a so-called democracy, Muslims can vote however they please, but this is where tribal conflicts come into play. Instead of voting on traditional issues, or matters of National importance, many Muslims vote on what is happening in the Middle East. (See Rochdale). This can promote a political shift and pave the way for a party run by Muslims for Muslims. Should we be worried? Reading the article the answer is yes.
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Post by witchfinder on May 16, 2024 10:33:10 GMT
I reckon that it is indeed the case that many Muslims in this country will vote based upon policies which apertain to The Middle East, particularly the Israel - Palestine situation.
Therefore it is up to political parties to decide whether or not to attempt to attract the Muslim vote, and I would say its a fairly easy and simple thing to do, push hard for the "Two State Solution", speak out against the killing of innocent civilians ( on both sides ), speak out against punishing innocent civilians, speak out against injustices.
Where I believe many Muslims are wrong, is the insistence that it could somehow make any difference if the opposition Labour Party in Britain called for a cease fire, it would make no difference what so ever, and I personally believe that British Muslims should consider policies where Labour WILL make a difference, such as in our NHS, the economy, poverty, public services.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 10:45:56 GMT
I reckon that it is indeed the case that many Muslims in this country will vote based upon policies which apertain to The Middle East, particularly the Israel - Palestine situation. Therefore it is up to political parties to decide whether or not to attempt to attract the Muslim vote, and I would say its a fairly easy and simple thing to do, push hard for the "Two State Solution", speak out against the killing of innocent civilians ( on both sides ), speak out against punishing innocent civilians, speak out against injustices. If their interest lies in backward religious tribalism for Jew Haters to tap into then they're clearly unfit to be part of a western democracy. The more they grow in number the greater their hive-mind mentality will send this country backward toward a state which you obviously feel at home with. It should be resisted. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 11:07:50 GMT
"Islamist movements in the U.K. have the same ambitions as their ideological allies elsewhere: the creation of an Islamic state governed by sharia law. However, in a Western country ambitions are inevitably more localized than in a Muslim-majority country. Therefore, Islamist groups focus on Islamization of individuals and communities; using the democratic process to gain political influence (often with support from politicians sympathetic to—or naïve about—their cause); undermining support for British countermeasures; fundraising for Islamist causes; and isolating and segregating British Muslims by propagating the notion of a Western war on Islam. Some British media outlets, human rights groups, and universities have aided the progression of Islamism in their own country by giving a platform to Islamist organizations and amplifying their messaging ..." www.heritage.org/europe/report/understanding-and-defeating-islamism-the-united-kingdom All that's happened of late is more of the Marxists have been indoctrinated with Islamism within the education system. It's happening as we speak and no one has the balls to challenge it for fear of losing their job or worse. Still, if people want this for their children and grandchildren then they must really hate them. |
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Post by Bentley on May 16, 2024 11:57:23 GMT
I reckon that it is indeed the case that many Muslims in this country will vote based upon policies which apertain to The Middle East, particularly the Israel - Palestine situation. Therefore it is up to political parties to decide whether or not to attempt to attract the Muslim vote, and I would say its a fairly easy and simple thing to do, push hard for the "Two State Solution", speak out against the killing of innocent civilians ( on both sides ), speak out against punishing innocent civilians, speak out against injustices.Where I believe many Muslims are wrong, is the insistence that it could somehow make any difference if the opposition Labour Party in Britain called for a cease fire, it would make no difference what so ever, and I personally believe that British Muslims should consider policies where Labour WILL make a difference, such as in our NHS, the economy, poverty, public services. Translation..let our foreign policy be led by the nose from an ethnic minority ( trying its hardest to become a majority)with a culture and world view stuck in the Middle Ages. Especially when it suits the lefties agenda . Jeez you loony lefties don’t even try to hide it . |
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Post by witchfinder on May 16, 2024 15:31:01 GMT
I reckon that it is indeed the case that many Muslims in this country will vote based upon policies which apertain to The Middle East, particularly the Israel - Palestine situation. Therefore it is up to political parties to decide whether or not to attempt to attract the Muslim vote, and I would say its a fairly easy and simple thing to do, push hard for the "Two State Solution", speak out against the killing of innocent civilians ( on both sides ), speak out against punishing innocent civilians, speak out against injustices. If their interest lies in backward religious tribalism for Jew Haters to tap into then they're clearly unfit to be part of a western democracy. The more they grow in number the greater their hive-mind mentality will send this country backward toward a state which you obviously feel at home with. It should be resisted. What a stupid post - The Palestinian cause IS NOT about hating anyone, it is, and always has been about two states for two sets of people who both have legitimate claims to lands in what is now Israel and the Occupied Territories. Both I, and many millions of British people, both Muslims and non-Muslims, believe that the Palestinian cause is a reasonable and just cause. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 16, 2024 15:39:06 GMT
I reckon that it is indeed the case that many Muslims in this country will vote based upon policies which apertain to The Middle East, particularly the Israel - Palestine situation. Therefore it is up to political parties to decide whether or not to attempt to attract the Muslim vote, and I would say its a fairly easy and simple thing to do, push hard for the "Two State Solution", speak out against the killing of innocent civilians ( on both sides ), speak out against punishing innocent civilians, speak out against injustices.Where I believe many Muslims are wrong, is the insistence that it could somehow make any difference if the opposition Labour Party in Britain called for a cease fire, it would make no difference what so ever, and I personally believe that British Muslims should consider policies where Labour WILL make a difference, such as in our NHS, the economy, poverty, public services. Translation..let our foreign policy be led by the nose from an ethnic minority ( trying its hardest to become a majority)with a culture and world view stuck in the Middle Ages. Especially when it suits the lefties agenda . Jeez you loony lefties don’t even try to hide it . Another unashamingly highly prejudiced opinion Whether you like it or not, we have in this country British Muslims, equal to any other British citizen, and as with other special interest groups, they will lobby for their particular interests, nothing wrong in that, Unionists do it in Scotland and Northern Ireland, our Jewish citizens do it, Catholics and Nationalists do it in Northern Ireland. The Muslim Council of Great Britain campaigns for a Two State Solution, even George Galloway argues for a Two State Solution, as does the Labour Party. So what exactly is wrong about campaigning or lobbying for an independent Palestine alongside an independent Israel. ? |
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Post by Bentley on May 16, 2024 15:44:23 GMT
Translation..let our foreign policy be led by the nose from an ethnic minority ( trying its hardest to become a majority)with a culture and world view stuck in the Middle Ages. Especially when it suits the lefties agenda . Jeez you loony lefties don’t even try to hide it . Another unashamingly highly prejudiced opinion Whether you like it or not, we have in this country British Muslims, equal to any other British citizen, and as with other special interest groups, they will lobby for their particular interests, nothing wrong in that, Unionists do it in Scotland and Northern Ireland, our Jewish citizens do it, Catholics and Nationalists do it in Northern Ireland. The Muslim Council of Great Britain campaigns for a Two State Solution, even George Galloway argues for a Two State Solution, as does the Labour Party. So what exactly is wrong about campaigning or lobbying for an independent Palestine alongside an independent Israel. ? You don’t even know what you post do you ? You basically posted that we should do what the Muslims want in order to attract their vote ….when it suits the leftie agenda . |
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Post by witchfinder on May 16, 2024 15:53:00 GMT
Another unashamingly highly prejudiced opinion Whether you like it or not, we have in this country British Muslims, equal to any other British citizen, and as with other special interest groups, they will lobby for their particular interests, nothing wrong in that, Unionists do it in Scotland and Northern Ireland, our Jewish citizens do it, Catholics and Nationalists do it in Northern Ireland. The Muslim Council of Great Britain campaigns for a Two State Solution, even George Galloway argues for a Two State Solution, as does the Labour Party. So what exactly is wrong about campaigning or lobbying for an independent Palestine alongside an independent Israel. ? You don’t even know what you post do you ? You basically posted that we should do what the Muslims want in order to attract their vote ….when it suits the leftie agenda . Now you are simply making things up Nowhere in any of my posts have I suggested or stated that that we should do what Muslim voters want I merely pointed out that many Muslim voters will pay particular attention to each political parties foreign policy in respect of the Middle East conflict. No different to Irish Catholics lobbying for their interests, or Scottish Unionists, or Jewish voters or environmentalists or Brexiteers, there are many interest groups who lobby politicians. |
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Post by Bentley on May 16, 2024 16:00:30 GMT
You don’t even know what you post do you ? You basically posted that we should do what the Muslims want in order to attract their vote ….when it suits the leftie agenda . Now you are simply making things up Nowhere in any of my posts have I suggested or stated that that we should do what Muslim voters want I merely pointed out that many Muslim voters will pay particular attention to each political parties foreign policy in respect of the Middle East conflict. No different to Irish Catholics lobbying for their interests, or Scottish Unionists, or Jewish voters or environmentalists or Brexiteers, there are many interest groups who lobby politicians. “Therefore it is up to political parties to decide whether or not to attempt to ATTRACT the Muslim vote, and I would say its a fairly easy and simple thing to do, push hard for the "Two State Solution",…blah blahlol. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 16, 2024 16:27:08 GMT
I find it rather odd that anyone would base their vote on a policy that is not within the gift of the UK Government to deliver.
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Post by Bentley on May 16, 2024 17:02:52 GMT
I find it rather odd that anyone would base their vote on a policy that is not within the gift of the UK Government to deliver. Because they are more interested in events where their heart lies than in the place they live. |
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Post by Orac on May 16, 2024 17:50:18 GMT
Another unashamingly highly prejudiced opinion Whether you like it or not, we have in this country British Muslims, equal to any other British citizen, and as with other special interest groups, they will lobby for their particular interests, nothing wrong in that, Unionists do it in Scotland and Northern Ireland, our Jewish citizens do it, Catholics and Nationalists do it in Northern Ireland. The Muslim Council of Great Britain campaigns for a Two State Solution, even George Galloway argues for a Two State Solution, as does the Labour Party. So what exactly is wrong about campaigning or lobbying for an independent Palestine alongside an independent Israel. ? You don’t even know what you post do you ? You basically posted that we should do what the Muslims want in order to attract their vote ….when it suits the leftie agenda . People have been saying for years that the left support immigration into the uK in order to use the new people as political weapon against the rest of the population (who they apparently despise).Witchie just outlines the whole thing as if it should just be uncontroversially accepted without qualm or fuss. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 18:56:27 GMT
I've said it before, I think the Muslims should have their political party which they tried to register but could not.
After all, Islam is both a religion and a government model, so everyone would know exactly what they were voting for. A system which a country like Iran proudly represents.
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Post by witchfinder on May 16, 2024 20:13:19 GMT
You don’t even know what you post do you ? You basically posted that we should do what the Muslims want in order to attract their vote ….when it suits the leftie agenda . People have been saying for years that the left support immigration into the uK in order to use the new people as political weapon against the rest of the population (who they apparently despise).Witchie just outlines the whole thing as if it should just be uncontroversially accepted without qualm or fuss. So here we have yet another odd post, in which the poster switches from the topic at hand (The Muslim Vote), to Immigration, followed by a populist right wing conspiracy theory. |
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