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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 27, 2024 17:12:47 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 27, 2024 17:15:27 GMT
Nope.
This government was a wasted opportunity.
The next will be much worse.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 27, 2024 17:16:05 GMT
"and it is understood that he has been frustrated by subsequent Tory prime ministers’ lack of interest in his views on NHS reform." Couldn't take demotion then... 
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 27, 2024 17:22:05 GMT
Yeah a real man of principle ...... LOL
Poulter announced he would resign from the British Medical Association in 2012, following an announced doctors' strike. He said he did not believe "striking as a doctor could ever be justified".
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 27, 2024 17:37:29 GMT
Health budget over time (Billions, inflation adjusted): £131.8 - 2010 (Dr Poulter stands as a Tory) £139.2 - 2015 (stands as a Tory) £144.1 - 2017 (stands as a Tory) £150.3 - 2019 (stands as a Tory) £182.2 - 2024 (defects, suddenly says Tories are no longer focused on funding the NHS)  |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 27, 2024 17:49:55 GMT
Yeah a real man of principle ...... LOL Poulter announced he would resign from the British Medical Association in 2012, following an announced doctors' strike. He said he did not believe "striking as a doctor could ever be justified". Yep he will feel right at home with Gray and co....Stir-kneel-a-lots whole battle group is only made up of traitors and losers who wouldn't get a look-in in the real world.... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 27, 2024 17:57:56 GMT
Yeah a real man of principle ...... LOL Poulter announced he would resign from the British Medical Association in 2012, following an announced doctors' strike. He said he did not believe "striking as a doctor could ever be justified". Yep he will feel right at home with Gray and co....Stir-kneel-a-lots whole battle group is only made up of traitors and losers who wouldn't get a look-in in the real world.... Brilliant, he's another reason you should not vote Labour. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 27, 2024 21:42:04 GMT
Even NHS campaigners are not impressed.. |
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 27, 2024 22:46:10 GMT
This particular MP is a doctor who works for the NHS, same as my own wife, and I can tell posters categorically that the vast majority of doctors who work in the NHS, and who actually care about patients WILL NOT VOTE CONSERVATIVE.
Its really that simple and that straigh forward
We are almost in a Mirror Image of the run-up to the 1997 general election, with the Tories very unpopular, the NHS in crisis, public services on their knees, MPs defecting, and the next thing which will happen is one of the major newspapers will switch loyalty from Conservative to Labour ... watch this space.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 27, 2024 22:51:52 GMT
This particular MP is a doctor who works for the NHS, same as my own wife, and I can tell posters categorically that the vast majority of doctors who work in the NHS, and who actually care about patients WILL NOT VOTE CONSERVATIVE. Its really that simple and that straigh forward We are almost in a Mirror Image of the run-up to the 1997 general election, with the Tories very unpopular, the NHS in crisis, public services on their knees, MPs defecting, and the next thing which will happen is one of the major newspapers will switch loyalty from Conservative to Labour ... watch this space. He must have plenty of time on his hands, a practicing doctor and an MP. This is the problem. Too many doctors work part time (In the NHS) and too many MP's have 'other' jobs. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 28, 2024 6:51:04 GMT
One of the few times I agree with Polly Toynbee in the Guardian:
"Shroud-waving doctors are planting tales of woe in the media daily, as if revered sawbones were above the political fray."
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 28, 2024 9:42:10 GMT
This particular MP is a doctor who works for the NHS, same as my own wife, and I can tell posters categorically that the vast majority of doctors who work in the NHS, and who actually care about patients WILL NOT VOTE CONSERVATIVE. Its really that simple and that straigh forward We are almost in a Mirror Image of the run-up to the 1997 general election, with the Tories very unpopular, the NHS in crisis, public services on their knees, MPs defecting, and the next thing which will happen is one of the major newspapers will switch loyalty from Conservative to Labour ... watch this space. He must have plenty of time on his hands, a practicing doctor and an MP. This is the problem. Too many doctors work part time (In the NHS) and too many MP's have 'other' jobs. You dont have any choice, neither does the government, and they know it. In recent years a lot of doctors have gone part time because of changed terms and conditions, the workload and real terms loss of pay ( what the Conservatives call "value for money" ), most of these doctors would have left the NHS completely if the choice was either full time or nothing, then where would we be. ? There are several NHS doctors who are MPs, probably the most well known is Dr Rosina Khan, MP for Tooting, who still does shifts at her local hospital during Parliamentary recesses, and went back to work during the Covid emergency. |
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Post by Cartertonian on Apr 28, 2024 9:57:30 GMT
I'm more interested in the timing, than in Poulter's motivation.
He could easily have just seen out his term and left at the GE
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 28, 2024 10:46:10 GMT
Nope. This government was a wasted opportunity. The next will be much worse. This is true no matter which one we vote for. They are all the same bunch of bastards. Each one in Westminster is prepared to sell us down the river for a bribe.
It's interesting to look at the plans for the railways because it turns out if the Tories stay in power then they would do the same as what Labour have in their manifesto. This indicates that neither party have decided on this matter, but rather it is the civil service who figured out what we will do and then they hand the plan to each party and each party tries to sell it in a different way, much like a wholesaler supplies three different supermarkets serving the same town. The product is the same but each supermarket packages it differently.
We can count on this same process for all the policies. Take trans for example. Each Westminster party will advance the agenda without doubt. All the MPs do is run some sort of daily drama show for the proles. Take the new law on banning conversion therapy. Anyone advises their child against chemical castration is a criminal.
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Post by witchfinder on Apr 28, 2024 12:01:40 GMT
I find it quite interesting that though society is today worse off than 5 years ago, the government in turmoil, and our public services in a terrible state, people seem to have crystal balls and can see that it will either be worse under a different government, or no better.
How do people come to such conclusions ?
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