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Post by Totheleft on Apr 29, 2024 21:55:19 GMT
There has been no growth in the economy, because austerity failed. Even the Tories ditched it. What austerity? - the Tories doubled the National Debt. If you believe that borrowing and spending on that scale is austerity then a padded room awaits.. Think the Government's second expense to the NHS has a lot to do with that ? Pensions triple lock adds £11bn a year to public spending |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 29, 2024 22:12:01 GMT
What austerity? - the Tories doubled the National Debt. If you believe that borrowing and spending on that scale is austerity then a padded room awaits.. Think the Government's second expense to the NHS has a lot to do with that ? Pensions triple lock adds £11bn a year to public spending So the government spend a lot on the NHS and pensions - how does this equate to austerity? would you rather they didn't spend a lot on the NHS and pensions? |
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Post by Totheleft on Apr 29, 2024 22:17:17 GMT
Think the Government's second expense to the NHS has a lot to do with that ? Pensions triple lock adds £11bn a year to public spending So the government spend a lot on the NHS and pensions - how does this equate to austerity? would you rather they didn't spend a lot on the NHS and pensions? At the expense of Everything else Yes. Why do you sunak has said he rise the Defence budget to 2.5 of the GDP. what the Average |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 29, 2024 22:18:29 GMT
There has been no growth in the economy, because austerity failed. Even the Tories ditched it. What austerity? - the Tories doubled the National Debt. If you believe that borrowing and spending on that scale is austerity then a padded room awaits.. Oh, I agree that they increased the debt, that is my point showing that ultimately austerity failed. What austerity? Well, as you know I work in the local government field, funding was cut by 40%. lordslibrary.parliament.uk/local-government-finances-impact-on-communities/#:~:text=In%202020%2F21%20and%202021,28bn%20in%202023%2F24%20prices. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 22:20:19 GMT
Get a real job then.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 30, 2024 6:36:52 GMT
Why isn't mine a real job? And didn't you also yesterday complain about personal attacks on you? Try actually being more understanding of others and then maybe you won't get it so much.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 30, 2024 6:39:30 GMT
your government department had funding cut - other government departments had funding increased. That is not the definition of austerity. That is normal prioritising of political spending. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 30, 2024 6:42:17 GMT
40% is not just a cut, it's a decimation. Yes, some departments were protected, that doesn't mean it wasn't austerity. Or if you claim it wasn't, what was the government trying to achieve 2010-2017? It failed.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 30, 2024 6:55:25 GMT
40% is not just a cut, it's a decimation. Yes, some departments were protected, that doesn't mean it wasn't austerity. Or if you claim it wasn't, what was the government trying to achieve 2010-2017? It failed. Of course it failed - spending money it didnt have was always doomed to failure. The comparison should be with the response to the 1931 recession - then the Labour Government actually did cut Government spending by 10%. This, along with the relaxation on exchange controls, allowed the UK to boom from 1934 onwards. The Tories in 2010 however made the decision to keep borrowing money to fund ever more public spending - a recipe for disaster. |
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2024 16:04:29 GMT
This must be what Andrewbrown means by trolling. Only that it's from his own party. You have the smart arsed mind of a delinquent school child. At least you are good for a laugh, so thanks  |
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2024 16:08:40 GMT
Yes, it wouldn't be so bad if the Labour Party trolls had a basic understanding of grammar and punctuation before accusing others of being thick. I guess it's a troll that requires no response, since they end up defeating themselves. As the 'mind' ^^^ posts yet another 12 year old's post |
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2024 16:19:25 GMT
There has been no growth in the economy, because austerity failed. Even the Tories ditched it. What austerity? - the Tories doubled the National Debt. If you believe that borrowing and spending on that scale is austerity then a padded room awaits.. The graph clearly shows the fall in the deficit "2010 to 2019, that's what austerity was all about. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06167/ |
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Post by Pacifico on May 1, 2024 16:52:07 GMT
What austerity? - the Tories doubled the National Debt. If you believe that borrowing and spending on that scale is austerity then a padded room awaits.. The graph clearly shows the fall in the deficit "2010 to 2019, that's what austerity was all about. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06167/Running a deficit of 10% which is what the Tories inherited in 2010 was totally unsustainable - even Labour promised to reduce it. A more relevant graph is the Public Spending against Revenue - for the entire period the Tories were spending more than they got in and funding that through extra borrowing. Hence the massive increase in debt to levels last seen 70 years ago. Austerity my arse. |
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Post by see2 on May 2, 2024 19:45:31 GMT
Running a deficit of 10% which is what the Tories inherited in 2010 was totally unsustainable - even Labour promised to reduce it. A more relevant graph is the Public Spending against Revenue - for the entire period the Tories were spending more than they got in and funding that through extra borrowing. Hence the massive increase in debt to levels last seen 70 years ago. Austerity my arse. Yes the IFM did probably cause most of the damage, nevertheless. The 2010 G20 meeting came to the conclusion that austerity was the way to go despite Brown and Obama calling for austerity and growth hand in hand. Which is incidentally what the EU settled for in 2012. The higher the deficit the higher the government need to borrow money to cover it. No, that's were your brain is on this matter. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 2, 2024 21:11:37 GMT
Running a deficit of 10% which is what the Tories inherited in 2010 was totally unsustainable - even Labour promised to reduce it. A more relevant graph is the Public Spending against Revenue - for the entire period the Tories were spending more than they got in and funding that through extra borrowing. Hence the massive increase in debt to levels last seen 70 years ago. Austerity my arse. Yes the IFM did probably cause most of the damage, nevertheless. The 2010 G20 meeting came to the conclusion that austerity was the way to go despite Brown and Obama calling for austerity and growth hand in hand. Which is incidentally what the EU settled for in 2012. The higher the deficit the higher the government need to borrow money to cover it. No, that's were your brain is on this matter. FFS - how many times. Borrowing to fund ever increasing Public Spending is not 'austerity' |
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