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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 7:36:02 GMT
IIRC there was a cut of some 50 £billion in NHS funding during the first half of the last decade, followed by the governments boasts that they were pouring some 30 £billion funding into the NHS during more recent years, which left a 20 £billion hole in funding. Then there was the con of taking £billions from the NHS building maintenance pot and sliding it into running the health side of the NHS. It seems to me that the lying deceiving Tories are remaining true to their natural dishonesty. no that is untrue What is true is that investment in the NHS has been cut in half since 2010. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 7:37:36 GMT
I would have thought the sub headline would have covered it " MP and part time consultant will advise Labour on health policy" saying Do you think these people work for nothing ? Advisers are currently paid between £40,500 and £145,000 depending on assessment by the cabinet office . Its no surprise then that he is standing down as an MP (£91K ) and will no doubt fall into the higher bracket of 'special advisors ' The current spend by government on advisors is about £12 million which includes £2.5 million in pension contributions , nice work if you can get it . Maybe I'm wrong and he is throwing in his MP salary and not taking on the advisor role or that he is doing it for free and returning to the NHS full time for around £60,000  It just goes to show that he responds without thinking and has little awareness of what goes on outside of his tiny circle. Ha ha ha, are you really that thick. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 29, 2024 7:41:50 GMT
What is true is that investment in the NHS has been cut in half since 2010.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 7:44:42 GMT
Not as a result of. The increase over the latter years of early retirement and people living longer meant that 'Final Salary' pensions had already past their sell by date. Labour were the enemy of the working man - they knew what they were doing. Gordon Brown was warned by officials that he risked long term damage to Britain's occupational pensions industry when he pressed ahead with a £5bn a year cut in tax relief in his first budget.
Official Treasury documents released last night under the Freedom of Information Act show that officials told the chancellor his decision to cut a long-standing tax break to pension funds in his first budget in 1997 would place an added burden on employers and could hasten the demise of final salary scheme pensions.
The documents will shock pensioner groups which have argued for the past 10 years that Gordon Brown was at least in part responsible for the collapse in pension schemes.
Brown defied warnings over pension tax reliefThe working classes who escaped from Labour's extermination of working class communities voted Conservative and kept them in power for 14 years. Anything was better. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 7:51:42 GMT
Not as a result of. The increase over the latter years of early retirement and people living longer meant that 'Final Salary' pensions had already past their sell by date. Labour were the enemy of the working man - they knew what they were doing. Gordon Brown was warned by officials that he risked long term damage to Britain's occupational pensions industry when he pressed ahead with a £5bn a year cut in tax relief in his first budget.
Official Treasury documents released last night under the Freedom of Information Act show that officials told the chancellor his decision to cut a long-standing tax break to pension funds in his first budget in 1997 would place an added burden on employers and could hasten the demise of final salary scheme pensions.
The documents will shock pensioner groups which have argued for the past 10 years that Gordon Brown was at least in part responsible for the collapse in pension schemes.
Brown defied warnings over pension tax reliefYes of course, 'pension holidays by the bosses', the fall in reliability of the stock markets, the increase in early retirement and the fact that many pensioners were living far longer, play no part in the shit pushers minds of those who wish to ignore many realities, and heap all the blame onto Brown. No change there from the Righties. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2024 7:52:52 GMT
What is true is that investment in the NHS has been cut in half since 2010. Shocking. I guess it's a good thing that some people are here to counter the Labour party lies. They post so many insults that they slip through the net when people block them. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 7:58:55 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 29, 2024 10:54:28 GMT
Labour were the enemy of the working man - they knew what they were doing. Gordon Brown was warned by officials that he risked long term damage to Britain's occupational pensions industry when he pressed ahead with a £5bn a year cut in tax relief in his first budget.
Official Treasury documents released last night under the Freedom of Information Act show that officials told the chancellor his decision to cut a long-standing tax break to pension funds in his first budget in 1997 would place an added burden on employers and could hasten the demise of final salary scheme pensions.
The documents will shock pensioner groups which have argued for the past 10 years that Gordon Brown was at least in part responsible for the collapse in pension schemes.
Brown defied warnings over pension tax reliefYes of course, 'pension holidays by the bosses', the fall in reliability of the stock markets, the increase in early retirement and the fact that many pensioners were living far longer, play no part in the shit pushers minds of those who wish to ignore many realities, and heap all the blame onto Brown. No change there from the Righties. Pension holidays were forced on the pension funds by the Treasury - if people were living longer then they needed decent pensions. Labour knew they were going to devastate the pensions of millions and yet they still went ahead - scum that they are. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 29, 2024 10:56:00 GMT
Yes - real terms increases Looking more recently, since the Conservative party has been in power (2015/16), spending has increased by 2.8 per cent a year on average in real terms. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 29, 2024 11:42:27 GMT
He must have plenty of time on his hands, a practicing doctor and an MP. This is the problem. Too many doctors work part time (In the NHS) and too many MP's have 'other' jobs. My view is opposite — too many MPs don't have experience of proper jobs and the real world. Too often they enter parliament too young, or straight from being local councillors, or political researchers, or MPs' assistants, etc. If MPs manage to keep in contact with a career outside parliament, good luck to them. But if they spend too much time away from their parliamentary duties, only turning up to be lobby fodder, their local party organisations can/should take action... I agree, you are absolutely right. Too many MP's do indeed lack any experience of the real world, particularly since 2019, and particularly on the Labour benches. Electing clueless young people seems to be fashionable at the moment. But the best way for young MP's to gain experience is not to be a part-time MP with half a dozen other jobs, the best way, the obvious way is to gain experience before entering parliament. In my honest opinion there should be a minimum age for people standing as MP's, of course that would be controversial, lefties would instantly demonstrate and demand such a policy was ageist, or anti child or some other rubbish. In which case, MP's and ministers should be banned from having second and third jobs. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 12:50:26 GMT
Yes - real terms increases Looking more recently, since the Conservative party has been in power (2015/16), spending has increased by 2.8 per cent a year on average in real terms.Still trailing according to the Kings Fund. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 12:58:32 GMT
Yes of course, 'pension holidays by the bosses', the fall in reliability of the stock markets, the increase in early retirement and the fact that many pensioners were living far longer, play no part in the shit pushers minds of those who wish to ignore many realities, and heap all the blame onto Brown. No change there from the Righties. Pension holidays were forced on the pension funds by the Treasury - if people were living longer then they needed decent pensions. Labour knew they were going to devastate the pensions of millions and yet they still went ahead - scum that they are. Not true, pension fund holidays was the choice of the bosses, there was no other reason for them other than the funds in the saving were bursting at their seems. You refusal to see the obvious makes your posts worthless, people living longer than expected when final salary pensions were introduced meant they were no longer affordable. Its all been gone through many times in the past. Your last comment is the epitome stupidity. The sort expected from so many scummy Conservatives. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 29, 2024 13:12:24 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 16:37:41 GMT
Pipe down you old fool, it's the lefty virtue signalling woke snowflakes running the NHS, if they can't manage on £181.7 billion A YEAR, they should ALL be SACKED the lot of them, it's gross mismanagement of tax payers money.
What is the NHS budget? Public funding for health services in England comes from the Department of Health and Social Care's budget. The Department's spending in 2022/23 was £181.7 billion. The vast majority of this spending (94.6 per cent, or £171.8 billion) was on day-to-day items such as staff salaries and medicines.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 29, 2024 16:56:47 GMT
Pipe down you old fool, it's the lefty virtue signalling woke snowflakes running the NHS, if they can't manage on £181.7 billion A YEAR, they should ALL be SACKED the lot of them, it's gross mismanagement of tax payers money.
What is the NHS budget? Public funding for health services in England comes from the Department of Health and Social Care's budget. The Department's spending in 2022/23 was £181.7 billion. The vast majority of this spending (94.6 per cent, or £171.8 billion) was on day-to-day items such as staff salaries and medicines.
So if staff salaries and medicines are taking up to £171.8billion, is there any wonder there is fuck all left, no wonder the NHS is on its knees, the simple solution, get rid of half the deadwood NHS pencil neck management, and spend it on nurses. |
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