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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 10, 2024 10:36:01 GMT
I heard a recent stat that 8.7 million people were taking antidepressants in this country. Why are so many people depressed? Well there are many reasons, but I bet you never counted on the psychotherapists to help you become more depressed and unhappy. It is indeed what they teach, and it is is just one of the many mad things these people do. This is Amy Gallagher talking to a woman who did a similar training course in the US to train as a psychotherapist. It turns out the UK and the US have gone mad, but surprisingly it is the UK which is worse than the US, and not only does this happen at Tavistock, but in the UK there are even worse. This is a problem across the board.
It took me ages to watch this video. My jaw dropped so far with various revelations I had to stop the video and think about it. In the first 15m Amy recounts what it is like to train at the Tavistock. After that the other woman explains how the US training system is and then we get some more revaluations from Amy and some very good psychoanalysis of the teachers.
The concern here is if this is replicated across the education system then we as a nation are in big trouble. Without education the country falls into enemy hands. Vinny - wake up. This is not Chinese and Russians threatening our liberty. This is our own people, especially women.
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Post by piglet on Apr 10, 2024 11:11:18 GMT
I cant watch it all but i get it. When i retired from the NHS this thinking was just starting, that alll white people are racist, a cloured woman gave one lecture like the above. I think i covered the process in my reply to blackiswhites post on David Cameron.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 10, 2024 11:26:12 GMT
I cant watch it all but i get it. When i retired from the NHS this thinking was just starting, that alll white people are racist, a cloured woman gave one lecture like the above. I think i covered the process in my reply to blackiswhites post on David Cameron. I know it is a long one and I'm not a fan of long slow drawn out chats.
This is not that though. If you only have a spare 15m watch the first bit and then decide if it is worth listening to the rest. There are things these people do which they really need to be sectioned under the mental health act. This is beyond the normal stupid/careless stuff. This is literally the lunatics running the asylum. If this approach is common across the academic sector then it answers a question I have been trying to answer for a long time. That is why is the population of the UK failing at every turn, doing the most idiotic things and especially in the last few years.
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Post by see2 on Apr 10, 2024 18:29:47 GMT
I cant watch it all but i get it. When i retired from the NHS this thinking was just starting, that alll white people are racist, a cloured woman gave one lecture like the above. I think i covered the process in my reply to blackiswhites post on David Cameron. I know it is a long one and I'm not a fan of long slow drawn out chats.
This is not that though. If you only have a spare 15m watch the first bit and then decide if it is worth listening to the rest. There are things these people do which they really need to be sectioned under the mental health act. This is beyond the normal stupid/careless stuff. This is literally the lunatics running the asylum. If this approach is common across the academic sector then it answers a question I have been trying to answer for a long time. That is why is the population of the UK failing at every turn, doing the most idiotic things and especially in the last few years.
I watched all but the last 6minutes, it seemed to be more about indoctrination than about insight and understanding. Some of the students are likely to end up with a set of fixed opinions, but I still have a enough faith in human beings to believe that many of those who are initially impressed will eventually see the light. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 20:14:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2024 20:26:59 GMT
The Cass review really exposes some of the arguments given on this forum as being at best, ill advised, and at worst totally unethical.
I have explained several times on forums that cutting off perfectly healthy body parts is an act of GBH.
Consent is no defence to a GBH or wounding with intent to commit GBH, therefore anyone carrying out the surgery is guilty.
Finally the country is coming to its senses over this trans madness. The gender recognition act needs urgent review. The idea people should affirm other people's delusions also needs to be quashed.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 10, 2024 20:43:15 GMT
Even a 20 year old is too young to fully assess the seriousness of life changing surgery.
There should only be mental health support from the state.
If grown adults fully developed, wish to pay for surgery and are fully aware of the consequences, that's another matter.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Apr 10, 2024 21:03:51 GMT
In 1984 went to live in rural Wales. When I returned to London in 1994 I was very much struck by the fact that people were using psychiatric terms to describe how they felt. People were no longer "worried" about something ... they were "depressed" ... their depression was so pervasive that they no longer knew what they were worried about. Some people "brightened up" when they thought about the benefits they could claim for being "depressed", and how much more they could claim if they really worked at having a "serious mental illness". There were noticeably more people who were genuinely "mentally ill" and the varieties of and the complexities of their states of mind were very different from how they had been just ten years earlier. Since then (1994) the influence of psychiatry has accelerated. Big Pharma is making a lot of money with their psychiatric drugs (the biggest money-spinner is an anti-psychotic).
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 10, 2024 21:30:49 GMT
I know it is a long one and I'm not a fan of long slow drawn out chats.
This is not that though. If you only have a spare 15m watch the first bit and then decide if it is worth listening to the rest. There are things these people do which they really need to be sectioned under the mental health act. This is beyond the normal stupid/careless stuff. This is literally the lunatics running the asylum. If this approach is common across the academic sector then it answers a question I have been trying to answer for a long time. That is why is the population of the UK failing at every turn, doing the most idiotic things and especially in the last few years.
I watched all but the last 6minutes, it seemed to be more about indoctrination than about insight and understanding. Some of the students are likely to end up with a set of fixed opinions, but I still have a enough faith in human beings to believe that many of those who are initially impressed will eventually see the light. It's difficult to say how it will all end. I do like to think there is hope, but right now all the indications are we are going to have to suffer a lot worse before some kind of revolution happens and we all wake up one day and ask what the hell are we all doing. I'm just very thankful I'm not in her shoes and rely on these people to collect my beans. She invested a huge amount of effort to train as a professional. I hope the courts realise this. This is where I see hope. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 10, 2024 21:38:27 GMT
The Cass review really exposes some of the arguments given on this forum as being at best, ill advised, and at worst totally unethical. I have explained several times on forums that cutting off perfectly healthy body parts is an act of GBH. Consent is no defence to a GBH or wounding with intent to commit GBH, therefore anyone carrying out the surgery is guilty. Finally the country is coming to its senses over this trans madness. The gender recognition act needs urgent review. The idea people should affirm other people's delusions also needs to be quashed. Yes but surrounding that is an even greater problem and that is how the hell it came about in the first place. This is like fixing one thing the madness has caused, but keeping the madness in place to generate even more ridiculous ideas. We have lunatics running the asylum and they are baring anyone rational from gaining employment in the asylum. This is the base problem. It's generational. The madness has reached senior management as time elapsed and the crazy students of 30-40 years ago worked their way up. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 11, 2024 8:10:16 GMT
The Cass review really exposes some of the arguments given on this forum as being at best, ill advised, and at worst totally unethical. I have explained several times on forums that cutting off perfectly healthy body parts is an act of GBH. Consent is no defence to a GBH or wounding with intent to commit GBH, therefore anyone carrying out the surgery is guilty. Finally the country is coming to its senses over this trans madness. The gender recognition act needs urgent review. The idea people should affirm other people's delusions also needs to be quashed. Yes but surrounding that is an even greater problem and that is how the hell it came about in the first place. This is like fixing one thing the madness has caused, but keeping the madness in place to generate even more ridiculous ideas. We have lunatics running the asylum and they are baring anyone rational from gaining employment in the asylum. This is the base problem. It's generational. The madness has reached senior management as time elapsed and the crazy students of 30-40 years ago worked their way up. Thank God we have this Forum where we can analyse and rationalise these things from a ‘common sense’ perspective … looking for solutions rather than amplifying the ‘problem’ like the MSM and these covert factions seem to do. |
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Post by piglet on Apr 11, 2024 9:59:24 GMT
I did watch the first 15 minutes, the lady was perfect in refuting the silliness, i presumed the rest would be the same. It is disturbing that educateed adults, in positions of power, subcribe to this, even when faced with obvious flaws. When big brother says to this, those do.
As in Nazi germany, believe, behave like this, do this, or face the consequences, when you look at the pressure that lady was under, then you get the reasons why the Tavistock managers etc gave in. The real culprit was from above, yup, its the governmeent, the Tories.
In Japan in the old days, i dont know if its like it now, they had a very rigid system, that if a nail sticks up, hammer it down. If you take it on a wider scale, multiply upwards, the government, in all its dealings has lost touch with reality, how apt this shows in mental health.
In all things the tories have lost the plot, Sunak is nuts, none of it is good, we are on the brink of dictatorship.
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Post by see2 on Apr 11, 2024 10:18:39 GMT
Yes I agree. IMO those youngsters should be treated with respect but not to physical or medical interference at any early stage / age. Their problems should be recognised as genuine problems and they should be encouraged to talk about how they feel, when they began to have their feelings in this area, while at the same time an eye is kept on any external influences that may have had an affect on their feelings. Learnt feelings can have a controlling affect on thoughts and actions, but establishing the root cause of feelings is IMO incredibly difficult. They should not be made to feel there is something wrong with them, because no one knows for certain why youngsters feel the way they do. There is one thing that is abundantly clear and that is that the human reproductive system is not perfect. --"1.5. The Review is not able to provide definitive advice on the use of puberty blockers and feminising/masculinising hormones at this stage, due to gaps in the
evidence base; however, recommendations will be developed as our research programme progresses."-- |
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Post by see2 on Apr 11, 2024 10:29:30 GMT
The Cass review really exposes some of the arguments given on this forum as being at best, ill advised, and at worst totally unethical. I have explained several times on forums that cutting off perfectly healthy body parts is an act of GBH. Consent is no defence to a GBH or wounding with intent to commit GBH, therefore anyone carrying out the surgery is guilty. Finally the country is coming to its senses over this trans madness. The gender recognition act needs urgent review. The idea people should affirm other people's delusions also needs to be quashed. Yes but surrounding that is an even greater problem and that is how the hell it came about in the first place. This is like fixing one thing the madness has caused, but keeping the madness in place to generate even more ridiculous ideas. We have lunatics running the asylum and they are baring anyone rational from gaining employment in the asylum. This is the base problem. It's generational. The madness has reached senior management as time elapsed and the crazy students of 30-40 years ago worked their way up. Yes, "generational" --- one way or another it influences the writings of all the Abrahamic religious writings going back thousands of years. There is an obvious problem out there, to just blankly dismiss it is not the answer. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 11, 2024 10:36:53 GMT
I did watch the first 15 minutes, the lady was perfect in refuting the silliness, i presumed the rest would be the same. It is disturbing that educateed adults, in positions of power, subcribe to this, even when faced with obvious flaws. When big brother says to this, those do. As in Nazi germany, believe, behave like this, do this, or face the consequences, when you look at the pressure that lady was under, then you get the reasons why the Tavistock managers etc gave in. The real culprit was from above, yup, its the governmeent, the Tories. In Japan in the old days, i dont know if its like it now, they had a very rigid system, that if a nail sticks up, hammer it down. If you take it on a wider scale, multiply upwards, the government, in all its dealings has lost touch with reality, how apt this shows in mental health. In all things the tories have lost the plot, Sunak is nuts, none of it is good, we are on the brink of dictatorship. I agree that the Tories have lost the plot.
But we're not on the brink of dictatorship, we're on the brink of a Labour government.
Bad, but not as bad as Russia or China have it.
I can only hope it's a one term government, two at most. Starmer's crap.
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