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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 12, 2024 12:19:57 GMT
Will check them out … catch you later …
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 12, 2024 13:39:52 GMT
Just to add to what I was saying about the US or UK being the driver of trans, I found out the first operation was 1917 in the US.
So it is rather confusing that today it is the UK which is worse than the US in terms of indoctrination in the teaching of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 14:58:51 GMT
They are dealing wit their psychological problems. It's the first I have heard of it, but it is a story in the Global Times. They say it was created because some kid had been reading foreign media and figured they were trangender, plus it goes on to say this bollox is affecting their school work and there is a risk of suicide. Promotion of trangender in China is still illegal. Iran is also doing transgender operations. The fact that mistakes can be made is all the more reason for caution, but is not a reason to ignore the fact that there is an age old problem out there. Iran seem to prefer homosexuals changing their gender, as it saves hanging them off a crane in public.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 16:37:30 GMT
I see it as a psychological problem made into a physical problem by those who make big money out of mutilation. The fact that they have corrupted the system to defend the practice and silence/control all opinion highlights that it's fked up. Sadly, it's the direction the world is being pushed toward. It has nothing to do with homosexuality unless we play along with See2's Iranian bollocks which is actually anti-gay to the extreme. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the West trying to encourage gay couples to transgender to appease Islam. It's a bit of a long shot, though. And you base what you 'play along with, "see it as" on what? I certainly would agree that accepting Gender uncertainty in the young is no excuse for any interference because there is no specific evidence that makes the situation either right or wrong. So a male who is convinced he is a female would not consider sex with a male? Is that what you are saying? Your last comment is the proof that your whole post comes from a nonsense position. --"By Neha Thirani Bagri Published April 19, 2017 In Iran, homosexuality is a crime, punishable with death for men and lashings for women. But Iran is also the only Muslim country in the Persian Gulf region that gives trans citizens the right to have their gender identity recognized by the law. In fact, the Islamic Republic of Iran not only allows sex reassignment, but also subsidizes it.
Before the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran there was no official government policy on transgender people. After the revolution, under the new religious government, transsexuals were placed in the same category as homosexuals, condemned by Islamic leaders and considered illegal. Things changed largely due to the efforts of Maryam Khatoon Molkara. Molkara was fired from her job, forcibly injected with male hormones and put in a psychiatric institution during the 1979 revolution. But thanks to her high-level contacts among Iran’s influential clerics, she was able to get released. Afterwards, she worked with several religious leaders to advocate for trans rights and eventually managed to wrangle a meeting with Ayatollah Khomeini, the “supreme leader” of Iran at the time. Molkara and her group were able to eventually convince Khamenei to pass a fatwa in 1986 declaring gender-confirmation surgery and hormone-replacement therapy religiously acceptable medical procedures."--
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 16:38:48 GMT
Iran is also doing transgender operations. The fact that mistakes can be made is all the more reason for caution, but is not a reason to ignore the fact that there is an age old problem out there. Iran seem to prefer homosexuals changing their gender, as it saves hanging them off a crane in public. You are welcome to make up your own excuses.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 13, 2024 6:03:03 GMT
Interesting history … but surely a distraction from the main protagonists at work here? Just to add to what I was saying about the US or UK being the driver of trans, I found out the first operation was 1917 in the US. So it is rather confusing that today it is the UK which is worse than the US in terms of indoctrination in the teaching of it. Normally the UK steps away from most of the craziest ideas and racist extremism we witness in America. … which has recently been heavily engineered and funded by Soros and his Posse … who backed the BLM anarchist groups years ago, pouring in $$$90+millions. … and used them … and other Democrat Anarchists … to remove Trump in 2020. Here’s a reminder of the true history of BLM that shows where these anti-white racist attacks are really coming from … origins within Islamic/Israeli terrorism. israelbehindthenews.com/2016/09/23/hamas-and-black-lives-matter-a-marriage-made-in-hell/… Religions love illusions - here they are pretending to help LGBTQ+ people … but it’s just misguidance … designed to whip up controversy and hatred … to the point where we see comments like the quote below from BlackisWhite The Guardian and BBC and other channels seem to embrace the worst misguided tripe imaginable these days … But it’s odd how these anarchists and Guardian-readers are being shoe-horned into our Administrations and Universities?? (eg. the worst WOKE woman Chancellor ever now is in Oxford promoting Islam at a time it has been highjacked by extreme radicalism? Mental eh?) Inconceivable we are a short step away from the lunatic fringe controlling the MET Police again advocate the implementation of Sharia Law …. what follows next?? - the execution of gay people in the cloisters of Oxford? Drownings in cages in the R.Isis? … Hmmm … when will the drip drip slippery slope to this madness end? Surely The Guardian all pervasive damaging Big Brother News Speak just makes us vulnerable to easy manipulation? … The deluded ‘barking burka’ of Oxford University supported by a Council rolling out 15 minute city totalitarianism isn’t necessarily the genesis of this racism and Green Agenda N*zism. … As I mentioned before … it’s likely a few international wolves linked to religious factions doing most of the damage.(Islam and Zionism) Iran seem to prefer homosexuals changing their gender, as it saves hanging them off a crane in public. What an extreme thing to say?? … no surprise Vinny ‘likes’ your comment. Worth mentioning that in more enlightened times … before Religion became the TYRANNY we see today … especially just before and after 9/11 … sex and sexuality wasn’t a big issue … the Romans and Greek Empires understood the broad spectrum of tastes the Gods had engineered into the human species. And Alexander the Great showed that a large % of men who preferred men to women … were 100% masculine and had absolutely no desire to change sex. … and sometimes made the best fighters on the battlefield. Most people have a tough time trying to cope with being different … especially when chemicals in our environments may have caused those differences. Not having a safe haven in the WEST is not how things used to be. It doesn’t help if borders are broken and certain tribes flood into tolerant countries and want to impose Sharia Law bully their racism, extremism and express their deadly hatreds. … yet still bizarrely get safe haven here because our Law has now been made ineffective by these same Left wing anarchists.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 13, 2024 9:32:52 GMT
Interesting history … but surely a distraction from the main protagonists at work here? I just thought you would like to know how it all started in this country and how we went from being a Christian nation to a nation of devil worshippers. You would never have thought Charles Dickens was a part of the conspiracy, but he was. To change British society from what it was to what it is now required manipulation of the arts. By the way, satanic worship involves all sorts of sick sexual abuse. The philosophy of it was the idea of man being above god, as per man can create life and destroy it. This is why they like body mutilation. They do everything the bible says in reverse, so bearing in mind the bible says effeminate men are evil and rebelling agaisnt god, the satanists would make that part of their practice, and the same with gay. Remember also the women's rights movement came out of this group. Ann Besant is a very important figure in history. The bible's view is it was the woman's fault in the garden of Eden and woman's fault influenced man to become faulty as well. So what better evil ploy than to put women in charge and make men their slaves. It's all part of the sick mind of the satanist, who you may know is also a cultist. This secret society represented a turning point, and you might also like to know many famous 19c children's book writers lived in Hampstead too. This is ongoing research of mine. That page which was deleted in wiki was the most important page. Someone wants to keep it all secret. You can't even get the past revisions of the page.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 9:58:15 GMT
Iran seem to prefer homosexuals changing their gender, as it saves hanging them off a crane in public. What an extreme thing to say?? … no surprise Vinny ‘likes’ your comment. Worth mentioning that in more enlightened times … before Religion became the TYRANNY we see today … especially just before and after 9/11 … sex and sexuality wasn’t a big issue … the Romans and Greek Empires understood the broad spectrum of tastes the Gods had engineered into the human species. And Alexander the Great showed that a large % of men who preferred men to women … were 100% masculine and had absolutely no desire to change sex. … and sometimes made the best fighters on the battlefield. Most people have a tough time trying to cope with being different … especially when chemicals in our environments may have caused those differences. Not having a safe haven in the WEST is not how things used to be. It doesn’t help if borders are broken and certain tribes flood into tolerant countries and want to impose Sharia Law bully their racism, extremism and express their deadly hatreds. … yet still bizarrely get safe haven here because our Law has now been made ineffective by these same Left wing anarchists. Nothing extreme about it. Just the truth, because the mullahs are crazy they just love to hate.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 15, 2024 6:13:22 GMT
I just thought you would like to know how it all started in this country and how we went from being a Christian nation to a nation of devil worshippers. You would never have thought Charles Dickens was a part of the conspiracy, but he was. To change British society from what it was to what it is now required manipulation of the arts. By the way, satanic worship involves all sorts of sick sexual abuse. The philosophy of it was the idea of man being above god, as per man can create life and destroy it. This is why they like body mutilation. They do everything the bible says in reverse, so bearing in mind the bible says effeminate men are evil and rebelling agaisnt god, the satanists would make that part of their practice, and the same with gay. Remember also the women's rights movement came out of this group. Ann Besant is a very important figure in history. The bible's view is it was the woman's fault in the garden of Eden and woman's fault influenced man to become faulty as well. So what better evil ploy than to put women in charge and make men their slaves. It's all part of the sick mind of the satanist, who you may know is also a cultist. This secret society represented a turning point, and you might also like to know many famous 19c children's book writers lived in Hampstead too. This is ongoing research of mine. That page which was deleted in wiki was the most important page. Someone wants to keep it all secret. You can't even get the past revisions of the page. I think it is totally wrong to claim that … (what is highlighted in BOLD) … what might have been done secretly behind closed doors by a few dabbling in the Occult and sexual abuse … doesn’t define a Country and it’s People. … a culture. Very bad form to tar and feather a Country with the crimes of a few individuals working in secret to undermine that Nation. What an extreme thing to say?? … no surprise Vinny ‘likes’ your comment. Nothing extreme about it. Just the truth, because the mullahs are crazy they just love to hate. Yes, I understand that … but the way you phrased it … suggested you endorsed the same views to some readers … ….if you don’t … maybe I would clarify that … if I were you??
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 15, 2024 8:39:53 GMT
I just thought you would like to know how it all started in this country and how we went from being a Christian nation to a nation of devil worshippers. You would never have thought Charles Dickens was a part of the conspiracy, but he was. To change British society from what it was to what it is now required manipulation of the arts. By the way, satanic worship involves all sorts of sick sexual abuse. The philosophy of it was the idea of man being above god, as per man can create life and destroy it. This is why they like body mutilation. They do everything the bible says in reverse, so bearing in mind the bible says effeminate men are evil and rebelling agaisnt god, the satanists would make that part of their practice, and the same with gay. Remember also the women's rights movement came out of this group. Ann Besant is a very important figure in history. The bible's view is it was the woman's fault in the garden of Eden and woman's fault influenced man to become faulty as well. So what better evil ploy than to put women in charge and make men their slaves. It's all part of the sick mind of the satanist, who you may know is also a cultist. This secret society represented a turning point, and you might also like to know many famous 19c children's book writers lived in Hampstead too. This is ongoing research of mine. That page which was deleted in wiki was the most important page. Someone wants to keep it all secret. You can't even get the past revisions of the page. I think it is totally wrong to claim that … (what is highlighted in BOLD) … what might have been done secretly behind closed doors by a few dabbling in the Occult and sexual abuse … doesn’t define a Country and it’s People. … a culture. Very bad form to tar and feather a Country with the crimes of a few individuals working in secret to undermine that Nation. Nothing extreme about it. Just the truth, because the mullahs are crazy they just love to hate. Yes, I understand that … but the way you phrased it … suggested you endorsed the same views to some readers … ….if you don’t … maybe I would clarify that … if I were you?? The people followed the devil worship. They believed Charles Dickens, where he was a liar, and saying these things for political reasons. People are gullible, and that is why we are in this mess.
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Post by Vinny on Apr 15, 2024 8:50:49 GMT
I just thought you would like to know how it all started in this country and how we went from being a Christian nation to a nation of devil worshippers. You would never have thought Charles Dickens was a part of the conspiracy, but he was. To change British society from what it was to what it is now required manipulation of the arts. By the way, satanic worship involves all sorts of sick sexual abuse. The philosophy of it was the idea of man being above god, as per man can create life and destroy it. This is why they like body mutilation. They do everything the bible says in reverse, so bearing in mind the bible says effeminate men are evil and rebelling agaisnt god, the satanists would make that part of their practice, and the same with gay. Remember also the women's rights movement came out of this group. Ann Besant is a very important figure in history. The bible's view is it was the woman's fault in the garden of Eden and woman's fault influenced man to become faulty as well. So what better evil ploy than to put women in charge and make men their slaves. It's all part of the sick mind of the satanist, who you may know is also a cultist. This secret society represented a turning point, and you might also like to know many famous 19c children's book writers lived in Hampstead too. This is ongoing research of mine. That page which was deleted in wiki was the most important page. Someone wants to keep it all secret. You can't even get the past revisions of the page. I think it is totally wrong to claim that … (what is highlighted in BOLD) … what might have been done secretly behind closed doors by a few dabbling in the Occult and sexual abuse … doesn’t define a Country and it’s People. … a culture. Very bad form to tar and feather a Country with the crimes of a few individuals working in secret to undermine that Nation. Nothing extreme about it. Just the truth, because the mullahs are crazy they just love to hate. Yes, I understand that … but the way you phrased it … suggested you endorsed the same views to some readers … ….if you don’t … maybe I would clarify that … if I were you?? Funny how you ignore the evidence of sexual abuse by Putin, and defame his victims. Putin raped little boys in East Germany in the 1980's. Alexander Litvinenko blew the whistle on the mass murdering child raping bastard. archive.org/details/B-001-000-156This is Litvinenko's book. In Russia it's illegal to read this. It can get you killed. ................... Anyway, back to Tavistock. Political ideological diversity lunacy has pervaded the NHS. Now it's seen as "transphobic" to criticise policy. But lopping off a man's cock and balls and giving him a boob job, does not create a woman, it creates a eunuch. And whilst eunuchs have rights, they will never become mothers. The trans ideology offers a utopia, but it's wishful thinking. You cannot make a man into an actual woman, that requires a womb & ovaries. You cannot make a woman into an actual man, that requires testicles and a working penis. These are the things that medical science cannot provide and no amount of wishful thinking can overcome these biological barriers. If adults go through the process with their eyes open, fully knowing the risks, and realities of what it will do to them, fair enough. But the op should never be done to kids.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 15, 2024 10:46:29 GMT
Amy Gallagher has just accepted an invitation from the SDP to run for their Mayor of London. It seems to me this issue may well get wider attention as she campaigns to get rid of Khan. I'm no fan of the SDP but both her and they see advantage in this arrangement. She wants to get the message out about Tavistock and the SDP need a smart intelligent candidate. Actually she is probably the best spokesperson I could think of on the anti-woke debate. She brings an educated mind to the table.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 16, 2024 5:24:33 GMT
The people followed the devil worship. They believed Charles Dickens, where he was a liar, and saying these things for political reasons. People are gullible, and that is why we are in this mess. The British Public didn’t knowingly follow ‘devil worship’. Even the brightest scientists can be led by the nose by devious manipulation and secret Society pressure groups … it happens all over … and has been given a free pass to exist … since Religion was invented. ….. so let’s not spread this sort of impression about the British … their moral compasses aren’t as broken as people imagine. We are steadily moving away from Religion and more recent EU/Zionist control thru Brexit. The writing of works like “1984” … blowing the whistle on this Tavistock racist bullying … abolishing slavery … new ideas, new movements … is something we can be good at again … if we can flush out this corrupt manipulated leadership that’s married to the Shekel handout and bowing to extremist Islam. When it comes to manipulation, psychologists can become dangerous tools of Totalitarianism … which is probably why certain tribes who want Power, Money and Control stand out as the World’s leading psychologists/psychiatrists … the N*zis, the CIA and Mossad have always used the most evil doctors to push their MK Ultra programmes and experiments in torture. **************** When you give certain groups free rein to control and censor the Internet … and parents ‘babysit’ their children thru their ‘devices’ … watch out. Here is one case scenario I know about … linked to the Tavistock. ….After unsupervised Internet surfing, an impressionable child feels they don’t fit in, likely bullied … they live isolated in their bedrooms … end up in depression, eventually repeatedly self-harming … one key influential school friend can be enough to lead them down the wrong path … parents naturally desperate to find a solution can be manipulated by psychologists … and partially marginalised out of key decision making processes. …. next minute their confused self/harming early teenage daughter going thru puberty with no tits to show off, thinks she should’ve been born a ‘boy’ … after a series of shrink sessions and parental hand-wringing … she’s eventually manoeuvred onto a programme of irreversible hormone treatment that kills her ability to be a ‘mother’ in later life …and adopts a boy’s name. Finally going to college with her friend. A few dead end jobs later, her relationship with her friend drifts apart … difficulties finding relationships with trans-accepting boys … now in her early 20’s … she’s grown up a bit …growing her hair again, acting like a girl again … and it seems she might finally be accepting the gender she was born with …. happier … fitting in better … more settled …. but may never have the option to have kids now …. that box she willingly ticked saying ‘irreversible hormone therapy’ ….. But it’s not totally irreversible. Detransitioning … seems to be increasing … there’s a UK support group out there with over 300 members. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50548473Just dug this out …. How many children take puberty blockers UK? 100 The number of young people currently taking puberty blockers is estimated at fewer than 100. Dated 14 Mar 2024.After the Tavistock was closed following the controversy … Doctors have been clearly ‘bollocked’ … Gawd knows what they are prescribing now instead??
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Post by Vinny on Apr 16, 2024 7:17:55 GMT
Putting kids through such a process is insane. Putting fully grown adults through such a process could be dangerous, if they do not fully understand what it means for them. It means not being able to reproduce. Ever.
But it's got bollocks all to do with the CIA, or Zionists, or George Black Wednesday Soros.
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Post by see2 on Apr 16, 2024 11:51:57 GMT
Putting kids through such a process is insane. Putting fully grown adults through such a process could be dangerous, if they do not fully understand what it means for them. It means not being able to reproduce. Ever. But it's got bollocks all to do with the CIA, or Zionists, or George Black Wednesday Soros. If the human Procreation system was perfect there would be none of this confusion over sexuality. It isn't and we are stuck with the outcomes.
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