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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 12, 2024 6:48:18 GMT
I heard a recent stat that 8.7 million people were taking antidepressants in this country. Why are so many people depressed? Well there are many reasons, but I bet you never counted on the psychotherapists to help you become more depressed and unhappy. It is indeed what they teach, and it is is just one of the many mad things these people do. This is Amy Gallagher talking to a woman who did a similar training course in the US to train as a psychotherapist. It turns out the UK and the US have gone mad, but surprisingly it is the UK which is worse than the US, and not only does this happen at Tavistock, but in the UK there are even worse. This is a problem across the board. It took me ages to watch this video. My jaw dropped so far with various revelations I had to stop the video and think about it. In the first 15m Amy recounts what it is like to train at the Tavistock. After that the other woman explains how the US training system is and then we get some more revaluations from Amy and some very good psychoanalysis of the teachers. The concern here is if this is replicated across the education system then we as a nation are in big trouble. Without education the country falls into enemy hands. Vinny - wake up. This is not Chinese and Russians threatening our liberty. This is our own people, especially women. No BvL, I didn't watch it, and you will no doubt be surprised to hear that I'm no psychologist, no honest I'm not. But the reason we as a country have lost the plot and when I say lost the plot I'm referring to all this woke gender nonsense, is because thanks largely to millennials and gen z types who have no sense of pride or honour, we have developed into a fat, pampered, comfortable nation of demanding whingers who live on benefits and fast food, neither of which were available 70 years ago when many people in this country were poor but pulled together and got on with things. I really do think you need to watch it. It's not a technical discussion. It is how government-funded institutions throw out hard-working rational people because they have not been brainwashed. As a result of this it means they can't get a licence to work and may well end up unemployable because all the woke agencies will see a gap in your CV and realise from their point of view, you represent the enemy. This is like a religious cult. The second reason she is good is she gives a professional psychological analysis of what is wrong with these woke minds and furthermore she has a degree in English where she studied critical race theory. All in all she is a very smart girl and would have made a good therapist.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 12, 2024 9:18:03 GMT
The Cass report infers that the trans-cult have been practising 'gay conversion therapy' on young children, and coaching them on what to say when trying to get sex-hormones.
Those people the lady speaks about in the interview in the OP should be struck off, as like many they've exploited young children through the toxicity of the culture wars, and Labour should hang their heads in shame too.
The pseudo-science of gender dysphoria has ruined lives, the Cass report couldn't come quick enough.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 10:35:39 GMT
Meanwhile in China, there is a clinic for transgender children and adolescents at the Children's Hospital of Fudan University in Shanghai and they perform gender reassignment surgery. Your thoughts on this Baron? They are dealing wit their psychological problems. It's the first I have heard of it, but it is a story in the Global Times. They say it was created because some kid had been reading foreign media and figured they were trangender, plus it goes on to say this bollox is affecting their school work and there is a risk of suicide. Promotion of trangender in China is still illegal. Iran is also doing transgender operations. The fact that mistakes can be made is all the more reason for caution, but is not a reason to ignore the fact that there is an age old problem out there.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 10:39:29 GMT
The Cass report infers that the trans-cult have been practising 'gay conversion therapy' on young children, and coaching them on what to say when trying to get sex-hormones. Those people the lady speaks about in the interview in the OP should be struck off, as like many they've exploited young children through the toxicity of the culture wars, and Labour should hang their heads in shame too. The pseudo-science of gender dysphoria has ruined lives, the Cass report couldn't come quick enough. So too should those who turn a blind eye to the reality that Human procreation is proven to be far from being perfect.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 12, 2024 10:40:52 GMT
The Cass report infers that the trans-cult have been practising 'gay conversion therapy' on young children, and coaching them on what to say when trying to get sex-hormones. Those people the lady speaks about in the interview in the OP should be struck off, as like many they've exploited young children through the toxicity of the culture wars, and Labour should hang their heads in shame too. The pseudo-science of gender dysphoria has ruined lives, the Cass report couldn't come quick enough. So too should those who turn a blind eye to the reality that Human procreation is proven to be far from being perfect. And your point is???
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 12, 2024 10:41:16 GMT
No BvL, I didn't watch it, and you will no doubt be surprised to hear that I'm no psychologist, no honest I'm not. But the reason we as a country have lost the plot and when I say lost the plot I'm referring to all this woke gender nonsense, is because thanks largely to millennials and gen z types who have no sense of pride or honour, we have developed into a fat, pampered, comfortable nation of demanding whingers who live on benefits and fast food, neither of which were available 70 years ago when many people in this country were poor but pulled together and got on with things. I really do think you need to watch it. It's not a technical discussion. It is how government-funded institutions throw out hard-working rational people because they have not been brainwashed. As a result of this it means they can't get a licence to work and may well end up unemployable because all the woke agencies will see a gap in your CV and realise from their point of view, you represent the enemy. This is like a religious cult. The second reason she is good is she gives a professional psychological analysis of what is wrong with these woke minds and furthermore she has a degree in English where she studied critical race theory. All in all she is a very smart girl and would have made a good therapist. Yes, I agree … It is pretty inexcusable for Red and some others to give an opinion on a subject, raised by an OP … that they haven’t studied IN FULL. … there could be critical data beyond the first 15 mins … even in the last paragraph that informs the whole piece. There are a number of dangerous people on here … the Vinny’s and Jonksy’s I notice in particular who have avatars and ‘repeat messages’ below each post suggesting/advocating we “Kneel” to one force or another … be it to Big Brother figures … or crosses and Religions. What’s with all that crap?? IMO they are just as bad as BLM and WOKE racists … but peddling ‘subjugation’ to another force … This is totally wrong … we shouldn’t be ‘subservient’ to anyone or anything … just our own consciences to ‘do the right thing to fellow humane beings’. This isn’t a debate about Russia and China … and now Iran oddly gets mentioned?? (hi guys … did the Forum’s ‘Propagandist Posse’ forget to drop N Korea into this mix?) … It’s not about their ‘trans’ population issues … they don’t appear to be having many. … Yes they get brain-washing/ and have their victims of ‘programming’ … but it’s a serious UK issue being discussed here … So called ‘academic’ psychologists screwing up young people’s lives … permanently. … more accurately RACISTS screwing up this Country.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 12, 2024 11:03:26 GMT
They are dealing wit their psychological problems. It's the first I have heard of it, but it is a story in the Global Times. They say it was created because some kid had been reading foreign media and figured they were trangender, plus it goes on to say this bollox is affecting their school work and there is a risk of suicide. Promotion of trangender in China is still illegal. Iran is also doing transgender operations. The fact that mistakes can be made is all the more reason for caution, but is not a reason to ignore the fact that there is an age old problem out there. There is not a fact of any age old problem. It is all new problems. Trangender was invented at the beginning of the 20c by a German Jew who promoted it in world wide conferences like climate change is promoted today. He was aided by the American hegemony in the dissemination of his views.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 11:07:24 GMT
In 1984 went to live in rural Wales. When I returned to London in 1994 I was very much struck by the fact that people were using psychiatric terms to describe how they felt. People were no longer "worried" about something ... they were "depressed" ... their depression was so pervasive that they no longer knew what they were worried about. Some people "brightened up" when they thought about the benefits they could claim for being "depressed", and how much more they could claim if they really worked at having a "serious mental illness". There were noticeably more people who were genuinely "mentally ill" and the varieties of and the complexities of their states of mind were very different from how they had been just ten years earlier. Since then (1994) the influence of psychiatry has accelerated. Big Pharma is making a lot of money with their psychiatric drugs (the biggest money-spinner is an anti-psychotic). Being depressed is a case of the human mind doing exactly what it is supposed to do, i.e. to deal with fears learnt (usually at a very early age) and held in the non-logical sensory system, and mostly not in the thinking area of the mind. The sensory system is that part of the mind that can give an almost immediate reaction to danger and to do that at many many different levels. The almost instantaneous reaction from the sensory system, that reacts far quicker than the logical thinking brain, is our first survival ('instinct' which is actually a learnt reaction') response. The higher the fear levels held in this system, which differ from person to person, the lower an individual will find themselves on a feel-good scale. The low positions on the feel-good scale is the area where depressions take place. Back in the 1980s, because of the voluntary work I was doing, I was aware that there were 3million prescriptions in one year for anti-depressants given out.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 11:09:33 GMT
So too should those who turn a blind eye to the reality that Human procreation is proven to be far from being perfect. And your point is??? Is obvious, those who turn a blind eye to the problems that actually do exist, only exacerbate the problem.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2024 11:17:08 GMT
Iran is also doing transgender operations. The fact that mistakes can be made is all the more reason for caution, but is not a reason to ignore the fact that there is an age old problem out there. There is not a fact of any age old problem. It is all new problems. Trangender was invented at the beginning of the 20c by a German Jew who promoted it in world wide conferences like climate change is promoted today. He was aided by the American hegemony in the dissemination of his views. Of course it is an age old problem going back to homosexuality thousands of years ago. The transgender area is a more recent expansion of the problem made available by modern medicine and surgery.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 12, 2024 11:37:01 GMT
I really do think you need to watch it. It's not a technical discussion. It is how government-funded institutions throw out hard-working rational people because they have not been brainwashed. As a result of this it means they can't get a licence to work and may well end up unemployable because all the woke agencies will see a gap in your CV and realise from their point of view, you represent the enemy. This is like a religious cult. The second reason she is good is she gives a professional psychological analysis of what is wrong with these woke minds and furthermore she has a degree in English where she studied critical race theory. All in all she is a very smart girl and would have made a good therapist. Yes, I agree … It is pretty inexcusable for Red and some others to give an opinion on a subject, raised by an OP … that they haven’t studied IN FULL. … there could be critical data beyond the first 15 mins … even in the last paragraph that informs the whole piece. There are a number of dangerous people on here … the Vinny’s and Jonksy’s I notice in particular who have avatars and ‘repeat messages’ below each post suggesting/advocating we “Kneel” to one force or another … be it to Big Brother figures … or crosses and Religions. What’s with all that crap?? IMO they are just as bad as BLM and WOKE racists … but peddling ‘subjugation’ to another force … This is totally wrong … we shouldn’t be ‘subservient’ to anyone or anything … just our own consciences to ‘do the right thing to fellow humane beings’. This isn’t a debate about Russia and China … and now Iran oddly gets mentioned?? (hi guys … did the Forum’s ‘Propagandist Posse’ forget to drop N Korea into this mix?) … It’s not about their ‘trans’ population issues … they don’t appear to be having many. … Yes they get brain-washing/ and have their victims of ‘programming’ … but it’s a serious UK issue being discussed here … So called ‘academic’ psychologists screwing up young people’s lives … permanently. … more accurately RACISTS screwing up this Country. About the first 17m gives a rundown of her experiences leading up to this problem. After that we get a rundown of how that compares in an equivalent training course in America from someone who did the course. Although the American case does not concern us Brits so much and it was mild in comparison makes this part in one sense not so important, but in knowing this it reveals something which is not commonly known, and that is the likelihood is this country is driving it. We are prone to thinking the dog wags his tail, not the tail wags the dog, but I believe there are powerful people in this country that control American society. I'd also add that when we were in the EU and the EU was imposing bad legislation on us, it was the UK who was gold plating it. Now why would that be? One explanation was they were trying to impose it on the EU so they would be the authority and in being the authority they felt they needed to set the example to make the Europeans follow it. If this is true it means we actually did the Europeans a favour by getting out of the EU. The remainer side has long argued in a haughty tone that they say Britain punches above its weight, and by leaving the EU we reduce the influence we have on the world stage (using their terminology). It's only a hypothesis of mine that the tail is waging the dog, but in this evidence we get total consistency with the hypothesis, so it is worth taking note. To further add to that we then hear that it is not the Tavistock Clinic which is the problem. It's not the archetypal case of a rouge institution, but rather since Amy set up a little political movement she has been contacted by many others in her position up and down the country, and some places are far worse than what she reports. So on top of learning the UK could well be driving a much larger movement, we must conclude it is something operating above the individual institution level. This is nationwide policy, even if that policy may have just emerged antonymously from the ground up. Maybe the nationwide brainwashing is the cause. For me this is still work in progress, but I found the evedence helpful.
Later on after the American experience we get more of how the case developed in chronological fashion following on from the intro. We then go into the psychoanalysis of the minds that drive it in the Tavistock and how they appear to be mentally ill. We often think of these places failing out of some sort of rational corruption in terms of embezzlement and giving your mates well paid jobs, but the evidence seems to suggest the main driver is madness itself due to the irrationality of the ones running it and how they don't even act in their best interests, as per not thinking straight. This ties in to another hypothesis I have regarding how networks work. Networks are very interesting things mathematically and can exhibit all sorts of weird complex patterns which gives counter-intuitive behaviours. These people tend to be strongly networked together, so you have a network running in isolation in a much larger national network of people in normal society. It's all about modes of operation. It's as if when you feed this crap into the brains of a group of strongly networked people it proliferates and causes a system crash. Mind you it does warn in the bible about doing evil things. It's like saying the evil is the type of code when fed into a network it acts destructively.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 12, 2024 11:37:48 GMT
There is not a fact of any age old problem. It is all new problems. Trangender was invented at the beginning of the 20c by a German Jew who promoted it in world wide conferences like climate change is promoted today. He was aided by the American hegemony in the dissemination of his views. Do you have a Link supporting or confirming that research? With regard the ‘trans’ condition being a relatively new phenomena … evidence points to environmental chemical pollution since WW2 … especially spray programmes of all types, being an influence on gender identity confusion. … that isn’t just ‘in the mind’ (induced by Internet/MSM/quango programming) … but also real physiological changes in animals and humans affected by increasing visible hermaphroditism in the animal kingdom causes much confusion in individuals. DDT and more modern chemical ‘soups’ now in the water supply … create visible sex changes in Nature. 60 years of women on the Pill peeing hormone blockers into the environment … over time sex change shifts may occur in fish … then in humans in the food chain … 95% is involuntary … young impressionably minds, who had the Internet as a baby-sitter, which led them to make hasty decisions egged on by brain-washed psychologists. Hmmm. 🤔 … that sort of rationalises it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 11:41:50 GMT
I see it as a psychological problem made into a physical problem by those who make big money out of mutilation. The fact that they have corrupted the system to defend the practice and silence/control all opinion highlights that it's fked up. Sadly, it's the direction the world is being pushed toward.
It has nothing to do with homosexuality unless we play along with See2's Iranian bollocks which is actually anti-gay to the extreme. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the West trying to encourage gay couples to transgender to appease Islam. It's a bit of a long shot, though.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 12, 2024 12:02:29 GMT
About the first 17m gives a rundown of her experiences leading up to this problem. After that we get a rundown of how that compares in an equivalent training course in America from someone who did the course. Although the American case does not concern us Brits so much and it was mild in comparison makes this part in one sense not so important, but in knowing this it reveals something which is not commonly known, and that is the likelihood is this country is driving it. We are prone to thinking the dog wags his tail, not the tail wags the dog, but I believe there are powerful people in this country that control American society. I'd also add that when we were in the EU and the EU was imposing bad legislation on us, it was the UK who was gold plating it. Now why would that be? One explanation was they were trying to impose it on the EU so they would be the authority and in being the authority they felt they needed to set the example to make the Europeans follow it. If this is true it means we actually did the Europeans a favour by getting out of the EU. The remainer side has long argued in a haughty tone that they say Britain punches above its weight, and by leaving the EU we reduce the influence we have on the world stage (using their terminology). It's only a hypothesis of mine that the tail is waging the dog, but in this evidence we get total consistency with the hypothesis, so it is worth taking note. To further add to that we then hear that it is not the Tavistock Clinic which is the problem. It's not the archetypal case of a rouge institution, but rather since Amy set up a little political movement she has been contacted by many others in her position up and down the country, and some places are far worse than what she reports. So on top of learning the UK could well be driving a much larger movement, we must conclude it is something operating above the individual institution level. This is nationwide policy, even if that policy may have just emerged antonymously from the ground up. Maybe the nationwide brainwashing is the cause. For me this is still work in progress, but I found the evedence helpful. Later on after the American experience we get more of how the case developed in chronological fashion following on from the intro. We then go into the psychoanalysis of the minds that drive it in the Tavistock and how they appear to be mentally ill. We often think of these places failing out of some sort of rational corruption in terms of embezzlement and giving your mates well paid jobs, but the evidence seems to suggest the main driver is madness itself due to the irrationality of the ones running it and how they don't even act in their best interests, as per not thinking straight. This ties in to another hypothesis I have regarding how networks work. Networks are very interesting things mathematically and can exhibit all sorts of weird complex patterns which gives counter-intuitive behaviours. These people tend to be strongly networked together, so you have a network running in isolation in a much larger national network of people in normal society. It's all about modes of operation. It's as if when you feed this crap into the brains of a group of strongly networked people it proliferates and causes a system crash. Mind you it does warn in the bible about doing evil things. It's like saying the evil is the type of code when fed into a network it acts destructively. I think the strength of the UK has been it’s FREE THINKERS who can step out of this ‘programming’ and pin-point exactly where this ‘madness’ and ‘environMENTAL DESTRUCTION’ is coming from … as I keep reiterating … small Religious bonded factions linked internationally … a Globalist Mafia In the shadows. It’s unfair to blame the British Public for the crimes the Rothschild Empire et al. perpetrated around the World. Countries aren’t to blame here … it’s the international border-hopping, border breaker SHADOW PUPPETS that do the damage and hold the money, power and bullying potential. It would help if we deported his UK Empire branch and The Monday Club back to Gaza … where they can experience first hand … the damage they have done … Let’s see them try living with the consequencies. You could probably put all the key ‘mafia’ players in one prison cell block … with no contact with the outside world … lock the door, throw away the key … and the Network you talk about would largely collapse … as minor pawns would inevitably, frantically attempt to ‘regroup’ and rebuild the Dark Side to the Force … this Empire. We had to sacrifice aspects of our economy and reputation … face ridicule … to point out to Europe the incredible dangers now facing Europe within … being controlled by a group of religious anarchists … with an agenda to tear down our infra-structure … arguably adopting many neo-N*zi methods to do so.🤔 Hmmm….. They got in the building … now we have to flush them out. … and not just shut down and remove all traces of the Tavistock … as you hinted … these anarchists are hiding all over the Country. … but we shouldn’t be too paranoid … and need to deal with this peacefully, rationally and methodically … now The Public knows exactly where the problem lies. … and which liars tell lies.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 12, 2024 12:15:25 GMT
About the first 17m gives a rundown of her experiences leading up to this problem. After that we get a rundown of how that compares in an equivalent training course in America from someone who did the course. Although the American case does not concern us Brits so much and it was mild in comparison makes this part in one sense not so important, but in knowing this it reveals something which is not commonly known, and that is the likelihood is this country is driving it. We are prone to thinking the dog wags his tail, not the tail wags the dog, but I believe there are powerful people in this country that control American society. I'd also add that when we were in the EU and the EU was imposing bad legislation on us, it was the UK who was gold plating it. Now why would that be? One explanation was they were trying to impose it on the EU so they would be the authority and in being the authority they felt they needed to set the example to make the Europeans follow it. If this is true it means we actually did the Europeans a favour by getting out of the EU. The remainer side has long argued in a haughty tone that they say Britain punches above its weight, and by leaving the EU we reduce the influence we have on the world stage (using their terminology). It's only a hypothesis of mine that the tail is waging the dog, but in this evidence we get total consistency with the hypothesis, so it is worth taking note. To further add to that we then hear that it is not the Tavistock Clinic which is the problem. It's not the archetypal case of a rouge institution, but rather since Amy set up a little political movement she has been contacted by many others in her position up and down the country, and some places are far worse than what she reports. So on top of learning the UK could well be driving a much larger movement, we must conclude it is something operating above the individual institution level. This is nationwide policy, even if that policy may have just emerged antonymously from the ground up. Maybe the nationwide brainwashing is the cause. For me this is still work in progress, but I found the evedence helpful. Later on after the American experience we get more of how the case developed in chronological fashion following on from the intro. We then go into the psychoanalysis of the minds that drive it in the Tavistock and how they appear to be mentally ill. We often think of these places failing out of some sort of rational corruption in terms of embezzlement and giving your mates well paid jobs, but the evidence seems to suggest the main driver is madness itself due to the irrationality of the ones running it and how they don't even act in their best interests, as per not thinking straight. This ties in to another hypothesis I have regarding how networks work. Networks are very interesting things mathematically and can exhibit all sorts of weird complex patterns which gives counter-intuitive behaviours. These people tend to be strongly networked together, so you have a network running in isolation in a much larger national network of people in normal society. It's all about modes of operation. It's as if when you feed this crap into the brains of a group of strongly networked people it proliferates and causes a system crash. Mind you it does warn in the bible about doing evil things. It's like saying the evil is the type of code when fed into a network it acts destructively. I think the strength of the UK has been it’s FREE THINKERS who can step out of this ‘programming’ and pin-point exactly where this ‘madness’ and ‘environMENTAL DESTRUCTION is coming from … as I keep reiterating … small Religious bonded factions linked internationally … a Globalist Mafia In the shadows. It’s unfair to blame the British Public for the crimes of Rothschild et al. Countries aren’t to blame here … it’s the SHADOW PUPPETS that do the damage and hold the money, power and bullying potential. You could probably put all the key ‘mafia’ players in one prison cell block … with no contact with the outside world … lock the door, throw away the key … and the Network you talk about would largely collapse … as minor pawns would inevitably, frantically attempt to rebuild the Dark Side to the Force … this Empire. We had to sacrifice aspects of our economy and reputation … face ridicule … to point out to Europe the incredible dangers now facing Europe within … being controlled by a group of religious anarchists … with an agenda to tear down our infra-structure. They got in the building … now we have to flush them out. … and not just shut down and remove all traces of the Tavistock … as you hinted … they are hiding all over the Country. Have you seen this page. which hosted the Hamstead Historic Club It links to Ann Besant Who is credited with women's rights. But is also linked to Theosophy and Helena Blavatsky which links to Nazzis but it also links to the arts as well, especially the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood. whose leading member had a father who founded this. So that's a lot to come out of one farm in London. The punks also have their roots in Russian nobility circa 1850ish.
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