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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 8:25:33 GMT
Not that sad paranoia yet again. Sorry Steve, but the left has been carried long enough and the county's problems won't be solved by squeezing the people who produce the wealth in order to benefit your layabout army that won't take its coat off for anyone including itself Oh look moving the goalposts trying to forget that 'ruled by Brussels' claptrap you posted |
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Post by Toreador on Oct 18, 2022 8:29:47 GMT
Any "getting ruled by Brussels" can only suggest Boris didn't get Brexit done properly, in fact he was a dismal failure, then and now.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 18, 2022 8:34:16 GMT
You can't make a deal with anyone if they don't want to make a deal that is the problem when trying to make a deal with Brussels
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Post by Toreador on Oct 18, 2022 8:36:56 GMT
You can't make a deal with anyone if they don't want to make a deal that is the problem when trying to make a deal with Brussels In that case the deal should have been to walk away. We should have done that on day one, the six years it cost us is irrecoverable. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 8:43:20 GMT
You can't make a deal with anyone if they don't want to make a deal that is the problem when trying to make a deal with Brussels Actually that was the problem with Boris We wanted to appear he'd done a deal but like an idiot in a restaurant that wants all the food on the menu and not the prices, Boris wanting nothing to do with the obligations he agreed to. |
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Post by Toreador on Oct 18, 2022 8:46:56 GMT
You can't make a deal with anyone if they don't want to make a deal that is the problem when trying to make a deal with Brussels Actually that was the problem with Boris We wanted to appear he'd done a deal but like an idiot in a restaurant that wants all the food on the menu and not the prices, Boris wanting nothing to do with the obligations he agreed to. Boris was a failure before he got the PM job, he hasn't and never did have a clue. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 18, 2022 12:53:27 GMT
Actually that was the problem with Boris We wanted to appear he'd done a deal but like an idiot in a restaurant that wants all the food on the menu and not the prices, Boris wanting nothing to do with the obligations he agreed to. Boris was a failure before he got the PM job, he hasn't and never did have a clue. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 18, 2022 13:00:17 GMT
The problem with Brexit is there are rules and agreements that have to at least be considered, Boris seemed to think he could just bulldoze his way through.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 18, 2022 17:54:41 GMT
You can't make a deal with anyone if they don't want to make a deal that is the problem when trying to make a deal with Brussels When they don't need to make a deal. We've found the same thing with America. |
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Post by sandypine on Oct 18, 2022 18:07:14 GMT
Marginal %age wise but not in number of votes. Boris got voted in. How do you know the people do not want Brexit. If it is the polls should we pay attention to every poll result? I know because I'm happy to have another vote and you're not. Those that lose a vote are always happy to have another it gives them a second chance to get all their ducks in row by changing tack, concentrating on where they think they lost the people. There is also the fact that the Remain campaign has been ongoing since 2016 irrespective of cost and has on side many interested parties whose best interests lie in Europe and they are still fighting the good fight. If it had happened as in 75 where everyone said its a fair cop, the vote has been cast let's get on with membership and buckle down there would be no problem. Fat chance the fight has continued apace with ever more strident and dire warnings and one feels that some are actually ensuring that Brexit will not work so that the UK can rejoin. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 18, 2022 18:45:02 GMT
Brexit put a lot of people's noses out of joint - the 'impertinence' and non compliance made a lot of people very angry and dissatisfied. It's a class warfare issue.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 18, 2022 19:14:12 GMT
I know because I'm happy to have another vote and you're not. Those that lose a vote are always happy to have another it gives them a second chance to get all their ducks in row by changing tack, concentrating on where they think they lost the people. There is also the fact that the Remain campaign has been ongoing since 2016 irrespective of cost and has on side many interested parties whose best interests lie in Europe and they are still fighting the good fight. If it had happened as in 75 where everyone said its a fair cop, the vote has been cast let's get on with membership and buckle down there would be no problem. Fat chance the fight has continued apace with ever more strident and dire warnings and one feels that some are actually ensuring that Brexit will not work so that the UK can rejoin. None of this matters if you believe you still you have the mandate. We could have a dozen referendums to no avail. |
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Post by colbops on Oct 18, 2022 19:18:52 GMT
Those that lose a vote are always happy to have another it gives them a second chance to get all their ducks in row by changing tack, concentrating on where they think they lost the people. There is also the fact that the Remain campaign has been ongoing since 2016 irrespective of cost and has on side many interested parties whose best interests lie in Europe and they are still fighting the good fight. If it had happened as in 75 where everyone said its a fair cop, the vote has been cast let's get on with membership and buckle down there would be no problem. Fat chance the fight has continued apace with ever more strident and dire warnings and one feels that some are actually ensuring that Brexit will not work so that the UK can rejoin. None of this matters if you believe you still you have the mandate. We could have a dozen referendums to no avail. Its just not viable Zany. You won't know what you are voting for! |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 18, 2022 19:37:23 GMT
None of this matters if you believe you still you have the mandate. We could have a dozen referendums to no avail. Its just not viable Zany. You won't know what you are voting for! Just like last time.  |
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Post by colbops on Oct 18, 2022 19:50:06 GMT
Its just not viable Zany. You won't know what you are voting for! Just like last time. Yep, it would be the biggest clusterfuck since the Boer War. Given the remain rhetoric last time: Everyone who voted remain last time would be a hypocrite if they vote Join this time since they wouldn't know what they are voting for/ Everyone who voted leave last time but join this time would be an idiot because they wouldn't know what they have voted for twice - failing to learn from their alleged mistake. I can hear it now. The government insisting they can't say anything because there is no plan for join...... |
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