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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2022 7:37:29 GMT
Oh do fuck off making false accusations about me. You know full well just earlier I was criticising the EU. It's far from perfect, badly flawed in parts even (but we should have given that deal a chance). As for metric maybe you should beat up on Jonksy as it was he that posted the false story about metrication being forced on all of us. Oh dear, bit touchy aren't we, is it that time of the month? The EU did attempt to force metrication on us, and got fucked off. This article might explain some of the myths. Well worth a read ukma.org.uk/why-metric/myths/british-metrication/#:~:text=Britain%20was%20forced%20to%20adopt%20metric%20by%20the,1960s%20well%20before%20joining%20the%20EEC.%20Read%20more
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2022 7:44:59 GMT
We joined the EU in 1993 (the EEC in 1973) The British Standards Institute under direction form the Board of Trade were imposing metrication from the mid 1960s You do know that time doesn't go backwards don't you and that 1965 is 8 years before we joined? Maybe not How many shopkeepers were fined because they didn't want metrification thrust upon them? There is bugger all that the EUSSR hasn't fucked around with and made a balls up of it whilst doing it. I don't know how many, if any, shopkeepers were fined, and maybe others don't know so why not pass your information on? As there is no such thing / place as the EUSSR there is "bugger all" point in nonsensically referring to it.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2022 8:05:45 GMT
How many shopkeepers were fined because they didn't want metrification thrust upon them? There is bugger all that the EUSSR hasn't fucked around with and made a balls up of it whilst doing it. I don't know how many, if any, shopkeepers were fined, and maybe others don't know so why not pass your information on? As there is no such thing / place as the EUSSR there is "bugger all" point in nonsensically referring to it. Maybe you should try Google now and then... It took all of 10 seconds to find......And yes there is a an EUSSR which is descending even further down into their self made cesspit in Brussels.
Metric Martyrs 20 years on - how a bunch of bananas sold in Sunderland led to Brexit
Weights and measures: the law
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2022 16:29:14 GMT
I don't know how many, if any, shopkeepers were fined, and maybe others don't know so why not pass your information on? As there is no such thing / place as the EUSSR there is "bugger all" point in nonsensically referring to it. Maybe you should try Google now and then... It took all of 10 seconds to find......And yes there is a an EUSSR which is descending even further down into their self made cesspit in Brussels.
Metric Martyrs 20 years on - how a bunch of bananas sold in Sunderland led to Brexit
Weights and measures: the law
So there were 5 prosecutions before commonsense won the day. And the EU could do nothing about it. It seems to me that the old "jobs worth" played a big part. The main point is that the UK has never been totally run by the EU with the UK taking further concessions giving more freedom to the Government. Not forgetting the concessions achieved by Cameron.
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Post by jeg er on Oct 21, 2022 18:24:29 GMT
why would anyone want to use a weird random system with no logical mathematical sense when there is a perfectly simple one which works on the straightforward divisions/multiplications of 10s, 100s, and 1000s?
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Post by sandypine on Oct 21, 2022 18:30:42 GMT
why would anyone want to use a weird random system with no logical mathematical sense when there is a perfectly simple one which works on the straightforward divisions/multiplications of 10s, 100s, and 1000s? I tend to agree having used both. Imperial requires concentration (no bad thing) and it can make sense in terms of the units in the answer. The decimal point being put in the wrong place is a very common error as the simplicity of the system tends to increase the lack of awareness of what the size of the answer should be.
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Post by bancroft on Oct 21, 2022 18:37:22 GMT
see2These come to mind........ Freedom of movement - we were not allowed to opt out. Giving prisoners the vote UK benefits being sent to Poland for parents working here rsther than them receiving Polish child benefits.
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2022 18:48:03 GMT
see2 These come to mind........ Freedom of movement - we were not allowed to opt out. Giving prisoners the vote UK benefits being sent to Poland for parents working here rsther than them receiving Polish child benefits. Don't know the outcome of give prisoners the vote but freedom of movement agreement was certainly curtailed before the referendum, as too was the decision to pay child benefits at the rate of the country the family came from. Both addressed and agreed under Cameron.
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Post by Steve on Oct 21, 2022 18:50:47 GMT
We joined the EU in 1993 (the EEC in 1973) The British Standards Institute under direction form the Board of Trade were imposing metrication from the mid 1960s You do know that time doesn't go backwards don't you and that 1965 is 8 years before we joined? Maybe not How many shopkeepers were fined because they didn't want metrification thrust upon them? There is bugger all that the EUSSR hasn't fucked around with and made a balls up of it whilst doing it. I'm sure that IF you knew what you were talking about you would be able to tell us how many shopkeepers were fined for seeking to trade unfairly using an unapproved measurement system that would confuse many of their customers. Big word that 'IF' and frankly someone who still believes in a fictional EUSSR is unlikely to have a clue.
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Post by Steve on Oct 21, 2022 18:56:18 GMT
see2 These come to mind........ Freedom of movement - we were not allowed to opt out. Giving prisoners the vote UK benefits being sent to Poland for parents working here rsther than them receiving Polish child benefits. At which point did you realise a) We were allowed to opt out of freedom of movement for those Eastern European EU nations, Blair chose not to b) Cameron's deal was a significant scale down of freedom of movement which could have led to further scale downs c) 'Giving prisoners the vote' was nothing to do with the EU and d) we never gave more than a small fraction the vote.
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Post by sandypine on Oct 21, 2022 19:00:54 GMT
see2 These come to mind........ Freedom of movement - we were not allowed to opt out. Giving prisoners the vote UK benefits being sent to Poland for parents working here rsther than them receiving Polish child benefits. Don't know the outcome of give prisoners the vote but freedom of movement agreement was certainly curtailed before the referendum, as too was the decision to pay child benefits at the rate of the country the family came from. Both addressed and agreed under Cameron. If I recall the concessions were time limited and the child benefit aspect was a cumbersome undertaking. Why child benefit was not paid on the basis of the country the child actually lived in and by that country seems crazy as that was where the money was spent to look after that child.
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Post by Steve on Oct 21, 2022 20:19:19 GMT
And at the end of that time limit we could have said to the EU 'extend and deepen those concessions or we're leaving' Should have given that deal a chance but that didn't suit those whose agenda didn't give a fuck about the UK's economy
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Post by jonksy on Oct 21, 2022 20:26:40 GMT
Maybe you should try Google now and then... It took all of 10 seconds to find......And yes there is a an EUSSR which is descending even further down into their self made cesspit in Brussels.
Metric Martyrs 20 years on - how a bunch of bananas sold in Sunderland led to Brexit
Weights and measures: the law
So there were 5 prosecutions before commonsense won the day. There are far more than than that they were just given as examples......You are even denying the GOV UK site and the rules. Do you wander down to your favourite watering hole and ask for a litre?
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Post by zanygame on Oct 21, 2022 20:57:29 GMT
But you have to admit that the U.K. has adopted the metric system when and where it matters. Wavelengths were never imperial, most technical work and engineering is metric nowadays, wheel sizes are in inches for historical reasons rather than geographical, Wheels are an odd example - you buy tyres denominated in Inches for the diameter and Centimeters for the width... Wonder who came up with that idea... Yes. Good point.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2022 21:14:40 GMT
why would anyone want to use a weird random system with no logical mathematical sense when there is a perfectly simple one which works on the straightforward divisions/multiplications of 10s, 100s, and 1000s? What is the metric equivalent of a Nautical mile?
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