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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2022 19:17:55 GMT
That is a list of claims without a single example in sight. It is a matter of public record that a bonfire of EU red tape has been promised for near on 30 years as a regular undertaking for most governments, it is also a matter of public record that EU regulations increase under every government. Are you saying that is not so? I asked for an example, all I have received is a load of wind and wiss.
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2022 19:21:43 GMT
It has been devasting for our wildlife. Indeed they destroyed the countryside and then wished to rewild it with their own programmes. It just goes to show that Bureaucracies have no idea how to deal with real life and real people and the heritage of any country. A bit like our Conservative Party then.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2022 19:28:42 GMT
Indeed they destroyed the countryside and then wished to rewild it with their own programmes. It just goes to show that Bureaucracies have no idea how to deal with real life and real people and the heritage of any country. A bit like our Conservative Party then. I haven't seen them line up to devastate our wildlife and neither have you.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2022 19:30:44 GMT
It is a matter of public record that a bonfire of EU red tape has been promised for near on 30 years as a regular undertaking for most governments, it is also a matter of public record that EU regulations increase under every government. Are you saying that is not so? I asked for an example, all I have received is a load of wind and wiss. In oytherwords you cannot refute the truth. Maybe it would help if you removed your EUSSR isued rose coloured specs.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 20, 2022 19:56:32 GMT
You assume those asking the questions do not want truthful answers, you are wrong in that. Their future work depends on them getting accurate answers. oh please Not another conspiracy?
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Post by sandypine on Oct 20, 2022 20:11:13 GMT
It is a matter of public record that a bonfire of EU red tape has been promised for near on 30 years as a regular undertaking for most governments, it is also a matter of public record that EU regulations increase under every government. Are you saying that is not so? I asked for an example, all I have received is a load of wind and wiss. I ask again are you saying that it was not so?
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 20, 2022 21:36:36 GMT
They might tell the pollsters that - unfortunately they will not vote for that.. You don't know that, you only know you wouldn't. Me and many others.. In 2017 the LibDems stood on a platform of raising taxes fore everyone - they lost votes. But feel free to highlight an election where promising to raise taxes has been a vote winner. The only time that people vote for higher taxes is when it is someone else paying those higher taxes.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 21:47:55 GMT
I'm fairly confident Steve will say it's a " big fat lie" it's a southern softie thing. As a Southern softy I would like to say...
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Anyway we can't all be like this..
' A frilly dressed ballydancin bastard' lol excellent.
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 22:12:40 GMT
Those idiot bulbs vested on us (and IIRC the Vacuum rules too) have more to do with Westminster than Brussels Was it Westminster who forced us to go metric when we were imperial? Was it Westminster that thrust upon us cosmetically enhanced food that tastes like shite? Was it Westminster that thrust upon us all toilet cisterns that dont hold enough water to flush the first time? It's good to see we are getting away from some of the crap the eu forced upon us by our own manufacturers. Well to take just the first of your questions, Yes. In 1965 the British Standards Institute following the Board of Trade's lead moved towards so called 'hard metrication' hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1970/nov/30/metrication You probably blamed the EU every time it rained, you stubbed your toe or when England lost to Germany in the Word Cup. I suggest you actually read some of the thousands of posts you've seen over the years refuting your obsessive demonisation of the EU based on no logic at all.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 22:29:29 GMT
Was it Westminster who forced us to go metric when we were imperial? Was it Westminster that thrust upon us cosmetically enhanced food that tastes like shite? Was it Westminster that thrust upon us all toilet cisterns that dont hold enough water to flush the first time? It's good to see we are getting away from some of the crap the eu forced upon us by our own manufacturers. Well to take just the first of your questions, Yes. In 1965 the British Standards Institute following the Board of Trade's lead moved towards so called 'hard metrication' hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1970/nov/30/metrication You probably blamed the EU every time it rained, you stubbed your toe or when England lost to Germany in the Word Cup. I suggest you actually read some of the thousands of posts you've seen over the years refuting your obsessive demonisation of the EU based on no logic at all. Behave yourself Steve, you know perfectly well we have never fully adopted the metric system. I still work in feet & inches, and I'm 14½ stone. I've never asked the gaffer at the local for a litre of beer, and the max motorway speed limit is 70mph not 112kph. The reason we haven't adopted metrication is because we don't like uppity foreigners telling us how to live, and maybe because historically we're close to the US who has not adopted metrication and is the biggest economy in the world. As for your adoration of the EU. Never forget, the EU is an imposed and unremovable by any democratic means monstrosity that survives in spite of democracy, not because of it.
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2022 22:49:21 GMT
A bit like our Conservative Party then. I haven't seen them line up to devastate our wildlife and neither have you. Apart from the multiple unnecessary deaths from early Covid, I have seen them making a mess of the country in other ways.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2022 22:58:27 GMT
Well to take just the first of your questions, Yes. In 1965 the British Standards Institute following the Board of Trade's lead moved towards so called 'hard metrication' hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1970/nov/30/metrication You probably blamed the EU every time it rained, you stubbed your toe or when England lost to Germany in the Word Cup. I suggest you actually read some of the thousands of posts you've seen over the years refuting your obsessive demonisation of the EU based on no logic at all. Behave yourself Steve, you know perfectly well we have never fully adopted the metric system. I still work in feet & inches, and I'm 14½ stone. I've never asked the gaffer at the local for a litre of beer, and the max motorway speed limit is 70mph not 112kph. The reason we haven't adopted metrication is because we don't like uppity foreigners telling us how to live, and maybe because historically we're close to the US who has not adopted metrication and is the biggest economy in the world. As for your adoration of the EU. Never forget, the EU is an imposed and unremovable by any democratic means monstrosity that survives in spite of democracy, not because of it. He obviously has never had to try and marry up a new extension to a house that was built in imperial using the metric materials which are used now. Then he would know what a bloody knighmare his beloved EUSSR has caused. But as per usual those die hards who would rather be controlled by the dictators of Brussels will still find an excuse to back the bastards.There are still thousands of old folks still out there who haven't got a clue about metric standards and even less inclination to un-learn what they had learnt at school.
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2022 23:02:27 GMT
Well to take just the first of your questions, Yes. In 1965 the British Standards Institute following the Board of Trade's lead moved towards so called 'hard metrication' hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1970/nov/30/metrication You probably blamed the EU every time it rained, you stubbed your toe or when England lost to Germany in the Word Cup. I suggest you actually read some of the thousands of posts you've seen over the years refuting your obsessive demonisation of the EU based on no logic at all. Behave yourself Steve, you know perfectly well we have never fully adopted the metric system. I still work in feet & inches, and I'm 14½ stone. I've never asked the gaffer at the local for a litre of beer, and the max motorway speed limit is 70mph not 112kph. The reason we haven't adopted metrication is because we don't like uppity foreigners telling us how to live, and maybe because historically we're close to the US who has not adopted metrication and is the biggest economy in the world. As for your adoration of the EU. Never forget, the EU is an imposed and unremovable by any democratic means monstrosity that survives in spite of democracy, not because of it. The UK is not totally metric, yet, but many made and sold items in this country are measured in metric. The Metric system being a better system than imperial. The US is in a similar position. The UK is a similar "unremovable by any democratic means monstrosity" to the EU. Just on a smaller scale.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 23:02:41 GMT
Old folks! Steady on Jonksy, I'm not ' that' old
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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2022 23:02:45 GMT
I haven't seen them line up to devastate our wildlife and neither have you. Apart from the multiple unnecessary deaths from early Covid, I have seen them making a mess of the country in other ways. Do stay consistent you were ranting on over wildlife and now changed it to humans. You do know that the most UK deaths were in the lunatic lefts run domains like Wales and Scotland don't you?
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