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Post by Handyman on Nov 22, 2022 12:34:17 GMT
The case against her being allowed to come back rests on the fact that she represents a security risk - regardless of whether or not she was "trafficked" whatever that means. She certainly is a security risk as she became a willing member of IS which is a proscribed organisation and one of the most vicious terrorist organisations in the world. The "White Widow" - the widow of one of the notorious 7/7 bombers - always claimed that she had nothing to do with the bombings and knew nothing about it until it happened. She fooled the police so completely that she wasn't even put under surveillance - and she spent her time visiting another muslim terrorist in Long Lartin jail and organising terrorist attacks all over the world for him. Yet the police knew nothing about it until she debunked to North Africa to organise her own attacks. They then found her diaries which described her intimate involvement in the 7/7 attacks. These people are consummate liars. I agree this tribunal is all about is she or is she not a " Security Risk " and an MI5 Agent is certain she was and still is a security risk to the UK As Counsel for the Crown is quoted as stating to the Tribunal Sir Jamie Eadie, KC told the court: "This is a case about national security. This is not a case about trafficking.” She knew the nature of the organisation she was joining, Sir James added. Sir James said that Ms Begum “travelled, aligned and stayed in Syria for four years” and that she only left IS-controlled territory for safety reasons “and not because of a genuine disengagement from the group”. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 22, 2022 12:36:31 GMT
Shamima begum said the Manchester Areana bombing was justified. Yet incredibly, deluded lefties feel sorry for her and say she should be allowed to return to this country. In my opinion those deluded lefties pose a risk to national security and should be interned. If I were a hard person I may be calling for Begum's left wing supporters to be shipped out to Syria so they can be closer to her, to offer comfort and sympathy. But internment will do. Yes, I know, I'm a softy at heart.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 22, 2022 12:47:57 GMT
Shamima begum said the Manchester Areana bombing was justified. Yet incredibly, deluded lefties feel sorry for her and say she should be allowed to return to this country. In my opinion those deluded lefties pose a risk to national security and should be interned. If I were a hard person I may be calling for Begum's left wing supporters to be shipped out to Syria so they can be closer to her, to offer comfort and sympathy. But internment will do. Yes, I know, I'm a softy at heart.  Some in here are not living in the real world, if this ISIS Bitch was allowed to come back, I don't think they would like her living next door to them. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 22, 2022 13:43:36 GMT
The case for me is a simple one
From everything I read at the time the husband she married within a very short time of leaving the UK was a Dutch citizen. As his wife niw widow any rights she may have becomes their problem not ours.
I tire of seeing endless lawyers trying it on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 14:03:25 GMT
People feel a certain amount of 'sympathy for a white woman that continually goes back into a manipulative, abusive relationship and ends up getting maimed or murdered. They could have by all accounts 'left' anytime but they do not. One has to wonder why this woman/young girl as she is not shown the same sort of compassion. The only one who was manipulative and abusive in her relationships was her towards her partners, this cunning conniving devious head worker, she was recruiting suicide bombers, and she didn't give a fuck what age or sex they were, let's just hope the decision makers aren't as dumb as you.
metro.co.uk/2019/04/14/shamima-begum-stitched-suicide-bombers-vests-carried-rifle-isis-9198869/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 14:09:40 GMT
Shamima begum said the Manchester Areana bombing was justified. Yet incredibly, deluded lefties feel sorry for her and say she should be allowed to return to this country. In my opinion those deluded lefties pose a risk to national security and should be interned. If I were a hard person I may be calling for Begum's left wing supporters to be shipped out to Syria so they can be closer to her, to offer comfort and sympathy. But internment will do. Yes, I know, I'm a softy at heart. I doubt anyone feels 'sorry' for her, I just believe she should be given a fair trial, here. All this rubbish about her being a security risk is balderdash, if this country cannot keep a 19-year girl securely we have certainly lost the plot. This is a Tory smoke and mirrors story to keep the 'righties' occupied. 😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 14:10:17 GMT
Shamima begum said the Manchester Areana bombing was justified. Yet incredibly, deluded lefties feel sorry for her and say she should be allowed to return to this country. In my opinion those deluded lefties pose a risk to national security and should be interned. If I were a hard person I may be calling for Begum's left wing supporters to be shipped out to Syria so they can be closer to her, to offer comfort and sympathy. But internment will do. Yes, I know, I'm a softy at heart. Some in here are not living in the real world, if this ISIS Bitch was allowed to come back, I don't think they would like her living next door to them. Who has said she should 'walk free'? |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 22, 2022 14:20:57 GMT
Nonsense is when someone that does not know what this woman and her friends did in Syria as part of the most ruthless terrorist group the world has encountered for a long time, they butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people, and some try to make excuses for what she did, she knew full well what she was doing.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 22, 2022 14:25:55 GMT
Some in here are not living in the real world, if this ISIS Bitch was allowed to come back, I don't think they would like her living next door to them. Who has said she should 'walk free'? Are you suggesting she would spend the rest of her life in prison? LOL. Of course she would walk free, she would also get a council flat and lots of lovely benefits for the rest of her life. Sod her, she can rot in Syria for me. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 22, 2022 14:29:54 GMT
Yes, she knew what she was doing down to her now
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 15:30:28 GMT
Nonsense is when someone that does not know what this woman and her friends did in Syria as part of the most ruthless terrorist group the world has encountered for a long time, they butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people, and some try to make excuses for what she did, she knew full well what she was doing. Begum "butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people", evidence please. Al I am saying she should be brought here, investigated properly, charged if there is a need and sentenced, I am not making excuses for anyone. We have hearsay and opinion to what she was involved in, and our justice does not work like that, maybe in Syria it does though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 15:31:37 GMT
Nonsense is when someone that does not know what this woman and her friends did in Syria as part of the most ruthless terrorist group the world has encountered for a long time, they butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people, and some try to make excuses for what she did, she knew full well what she was doing. Precisely, we do not know what she did. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 22, 2022 15:36:34 GMT
Nonsense is when someone that does not know what this woman and her friends did in Syria as part of the most ruthless terrorist group the world has encountered for a long time, they butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people, and some try to make excuses for what she did, she knew full well what she was doing. Begum "butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people", evidence please. Al I am saying she should be brought here, investigated properly, charged if there is a need and sentenced, I am not making excuses for anyone. We have hearsay and opinion to what she was involved in, and our justice does not work like that, maybe in Syria it does though. Hearsay, yeah the CTP have a dossier on her, along with other world intelligence organizations, nothing hearsay about it, why do you think they are going to painstaking lengths to keep her out of the UK? |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 22, 2022 15:50:15 GMT
Nonsense is when someone that does not know what this woman and her friends did in Syria as part of the most ruthless terrorist group the world has encountered for a long time, they butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people, and some try to make excuses for what she did, she knew full well what she was doing. Begum "butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people", evidence please. Al I am saying she should be brought here, investigated properly, charged if there is a need and sentenced, I am not making excuses for anyone. We have hearsay and opinion to what she was involved in, and our justice does not work like that, maybe in Syria it does though. Grow up will you, she and her two mates willingly joined ISIS and that is what ISIS did, she and they were part of it, or do you think they just did a dusting waiting for their men to come back from slaughtering people |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 22, 2022 15:51:39 GMT
Begum "butchered tortured and maimed thousands upon thousands of people", evidence please. Al I am saying she should be brought here, investigated properly, charged if there is a need and sentenced, I am not making excuses for anyone. We have hearsay and opinion to what she was involved in, and our justice does not work like that, maybe in Syria it does though. Hearsay, yeah the CTP have a dossier on her, along with other world intelligence organizations, nothing hearsay about it, why do you think they are going to painstaking lengths to keep her out of the UK? That is way above his pay grade and comprehension |
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