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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 9, 2024 8:23:43 GMT
Well, the real question is how much it would cost to bring Scottish and English law into full alignment, and the answer is probably an extremely large amount of money. Just imagine the cost of changing Scotland's conveyancing system to be the same as England's for example. Yes, it would be easier for English and Welsh people to navigate the Scottish housing market if their system was changed, but you'd have to retrain all the Scottish conveyancing solicitors and change all the associated systems. Is that really worth it? And that's just one tiny example, involving one of the least controversial and most mundane bits of law. It think this is a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That doesn't appear to be the default position of the politicians who create special laws for Scotland, as the Act in question demonstrates.
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Post by anthropoz on Apr 9, 2024 8:34:52 GMT
Well, the real question is how much it would cost to bring Scottish and English law into full alignment, and the answer is probably an extremely large amount of money. Just imagine the cost of changing Scotland's conveyancing system to be the same as England's for example. Yes, it would be easier for English and Welsh people to navigate the Scottish housing market if their system was changed, but you'd have to retrain all the Scottish conveyancing solicitors and change all the associated systems. Is that really worth it? And that's just one tiny example, involving one of the least controversial and most mundane bits of law. It think this is a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That doesn't appear to be the default position of the politicians who create special laws for Scotland, as the Act in question demonstrates.
The SNP aren't responsible for Scotland having its own legal system, and they didn't invent most of the Scottish laws. They have their own agenda, which is itself broken. In fact it was always broken -- the SNP aren't really nationalists at all, but anglophobes. They do not want Scottish independence. They want Scotland to be ruled from Brussels instead of London, and Brexit killed that idea. |
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Post by Nemo on Apr 9, 2024 11:50:12 GMT
That doesn't appear to be the default position of the politicians who create special laws for Scotland, as the Act in question demonstrates.
The SNP aren't responsible for Scotland having its own legal system, and they didn't invent most of the Scottish laws. They have their own agenda, which is itself broken. In fact it was always broken -- the SNP aren't really nationalists at all, but anglophobes. They do not want Scottish independence. They want Scotland to be ruled from Brussels instead of London, and Brexit killed that idea.
I was against the UK being ruled from Brussels, but given the way Scotland is currently being ruled, it might be a good idea for them.
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Post by Handyman on Apr 9, 2024 19:31:03 GMT
The SNP aren't responsible for Scotland having its own legal system, and they didn't invent most of the Scottish laws. They have their own agenda, which is itself broken. In fact it was always broken -- the SNP aren't really nationalists at all, but anglophobes. They do not want Scottish independence. They want Scotland to be ruled from Brussels instead of London, and Brexit killed that idea.
I was against the UK being ruled from Brussels, but given the way Scotland is currently being ruled, it might be a good idea for them.
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Post by om15 on Apr 10, 2024 11:50:57 GMT
The situation has now unravelled into the mess predicted by all the saner observers of the SNP chaos and imbecility which is laughingly called a Government.
Fewer than 4 per cent of reports made under Scotland’s new hate crime law were actual crimes, police figures show.
In the first official statistics published since the law came into force, Police Scotland said that it had received 7,152 online hate reports between April 1 and April 7.
However, it said that during the period, just 240 actual hate crimes, around 3.5 per cent of the reports made, had been recorded. A further 30 were recorded as “non-crime hate incidents”.
In the vast majority of cases, reports were made anonymously and no further action will be taken.
The figures are likely to bolster claims that members of the public are seeking to “weaponise” the legislation to fuel personal or political vendettas.
The number of hate crimes recorded in the first week of the legislation is more than double the 99 recorded over the entirety of 12 months to April. There were also only 125 hate crimes recorded in 2022-23.
Two years’ worth of reports in one week
This means that in the first week of the legislation, more than two years’ worth of hate crimes, compared with previous regime, were recorded.
The 30 non-crime hate incidents recorded in a week was almost double the total received over the entirety of the 2023-24 financial year, when 18 were recorded by police.
Police Scotland also confirmed that some of the reports were made against JK Rowling, after she “misgendered” a series of high-profile trans women on the first day the law came into force by calling them men.
She challenged police to arrest her but they declined to do so, ruling that a crime had not been committed.
A Police Scotland spokesman said: “This data highlights the substantial increase in the number of online hate reports being received since 1 April.
“This significant demand continues to be managed within our contact centres and so far the impact on frontline policing, our ability to answer calls and respond to those who need our help in communities across Scotland has been minimal.
“All complaints received are reviewed by officers, supported by dedicated hate crime advisers, and dealt with appropriately, whether that is being progressed for further assessment, or closed as they do not meet the criteria under the legislation”.
A person commits an offence under the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act if they communicate material, or behave in a manner, “that a reasonable person would consider to be threatening or abusive,” with the intention of stirring up hatred based on the protected characteristics.
The legislation extends long-standing offences around racist abuse to other grounds on the basis of age, disability, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity but not sex.
Meanwhile motorists can't drive on the roads unless they own an all terrain half track, parents can't rely on schools educating their children, or indeed returning them home in the evening the same sex as they were at breakfast time, or sick people receiving any treatment more advanced than chewing stinging nettles, on top of all this people in remote out lying crofts and farms can no longer use log burners to prevent themselves from dying of hyperthermia.
We may shudder when we peer over the border into the wasteland of Scotland, but Starmer will give us all that with bells on.
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