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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 3, 2024 2:51:10 GMT
The BBC news site reports as ‘breaking news’ that J K Rowlings tweets are NOT considered a hate crime under the islamic twat’s upending of the way Britain does things I’m unimpressed I had hoped the dorks in blue would try to bust her for them and reveal the real problem in today’s lefty run shithouse Is this not where it is going though, those with enough clout and cash will be to a certain extent ignored but Joe Bloggs will be targeted for the test cases. I am pretty certain if Joe Bloggs had made the Rowling tweets he would be sought out by the boys in blue. The answer to that is seen in Dawn Primarolo’s Welfare Reform Act Regulatory Impact Assessment In it she states categorically that Premier League Footballers will have sufficiently expensive lawyers to challenge the tax authorities and continue as they are, whilst everyone else without such recourse will have no alternative other than to caputulate
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Post by om15 on Apr 3, 2024 8:23:06 GMT
JK Rowling seems to have addressed that issue, in the DT this morning,
Over 3,800 reports of hate crime were recieved in one day yesterday.
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Post by happyjack on Apr 3, 2024 9:06:09 GMT
“Rowling, who lives in Edinburgh, said: “If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I’ll repeat that woman’s words and they can charge us both at once.”
Isn’t that akin to sexual discrimination? What if it is a man who does this rather than a woman?
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 3, 2024 9:25:36 GMT
“Rowling, who lives in Edinburgh, said: “If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I’ll repeat that woman’s words and they can charge us both at once.” Isn’t that akin to sexual discrimination? What if it is a man who does this rather than a woman? On first reading it, you might be forgiven for thinking so However, i rather suspect that were i to stand in Princes Street and declare my firmly held view that having a fully functional dick and balls means you ain’t anything i recognise as a woman, and invite Ms Rowling to agree with me, i rather think she would. Because i don’t HATE them for trying to say they are a woman despite being so equipped. I simply don’t recognise them as such and consider their position ridiculous. Two very different things.
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 3, 2024 9:26:38 GMT
Is this not where it is going though, those with enough clout and cash will be to a certain extent ignored but Joe Bloggs will be targeted for the test cases. I am pretty certain if Joe Bloggs had made the Rowling tweets he would be sought out by the boys in blue. The answer to that is seen in Dawn Primarolo’s Welfare Reform Act Regulatory Impact Assessment In it she states categorically that Premier League Footballers will have sufficiently expensive lawyers to challenge the tax authorities and continue as they are, whilst everyone else without such recourse will have no alternative other than to caputulate I believe that's what is known as 'Equality of Arms' in legal circles, a basic tenet of English (and Welsh) law. Don't know about north of the border, they have some funny ideas up there.
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Post by om15 on Apr 3, 2024 9:44:47 GMT
As well as multiple complaints submitted about anti white racism displayed by the first minister, Polis Scotland have been reported to Polis Scotland about their hate monster advert engendering hate against young white males, in the case the complainant is Indian association in Scotland. So the SNP have now managed to incorporate Indians into the white/muslim stand off. The SNP voters must feel very proud of what they have reduced their country to.
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Post by jaydee on Apr 3, 2024 10:40:09 GMT
Mr Stupid at his Mr stupid best. You know when it comes to stupid Englishmen you really take the biscuit. First you fecking rant England did not have a hate crime bill. Which has been in Force for years. And for your info Mr stupid the Public order Act is a English law and does not apply in Scotland. Never has and never will. And that act was modified in England in 2006 and again in 2008. Which contained what is now in the Scottish act. You have had the links several times. And still go into a Mr Stupid denial. You really do have a problem in examining day light as your head is continually stuck up your rectum. In terms of your bile above. It is a English Act and in terms of modification let me repeat for the 10th time. A copy and paste. From my Mr Stupid folder. In 2020/2021, 2,630 Hate Crimes against transgender people in England were recorded by the Police, an increase of 16% from the previous year (Home Office, 2021). This number is still severely underreported because out of 108,100 responses to the National LGBT Survey, 88% of transgender people did not report the most serious type of incident. 48% of transgender people were not satisfied with the Police response after reporting the most serious types of incidents.Transgender people are more likely to experience threats of physical or sexual harassment or violence compared with the LGBT community as a whole (National LGBT Survey, Government Equalities Office). Most transphobic incidents reported to Stop Hate UK were verbal abuse, threatening behaviour, harassment and anti-social behaviour, such as having derogatory terms shouted at them, having invasive or inappropriate questions asked of them or facing harassment from neighbours, co-workers or strangers. The Crown Prosecution Service lists transphobic hate crimes as the below; "Any incident/criminal offence which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender". Jings Mr stupid I wonder what Transgender Hate crime in England means. In stupidity you are in a class of your own. Oh look it is recorded by the Police. So Mr Stupid as you look at a English law. Then try to rant it applies in Scotland. Let me ask you again. What is the difference between the Scottish and English version. And Mr stupid. The crime is aggravated when the intention is to stir up hatred. That is the fecking idea. Your problem apart from being a clueless clown being. In term of your bollocks about the power of the police. Scotland is a funny place. it is the police who investigate crime. It is the court who convict. You know when you ranted the former FM had the police in her hands. And then ranted she ordered the court to convict. Do not even attempt to deny your idiotic bollocks. Then when you look at the likes of JK Rowling and your lawyer. They are talking about a law that has been in force for years in England and now applies to Scotland. It is new to them. So stop talking shite.. How abou you explain to me in terms 0f Rowling. Exactly where was her intention to stir up hatred, She makes it clear thatg any one who has a dick, is not a woman,and has every right to disagree with the law. Her problem being that the new law does not go far enough and should introduce woman, as being protected. There is already law in Scotland re that. But she has a point in a attempt to stir up hatred against woman. Most of the Scottish Tory wanker MSPs would be in the fecking jail. Then you tell me, apart from the fact ignorance of the law is not a defence, do you have to be to understand you are committing a crime. That matey applies in England as well. . So Mr stupid. Let me ask you again. What exactly is your problem with the law which has applied in England for years. Then you tell me what part of a INTENTION TO STIR UP HATRED . Is causing you a problem. As you spew clueless havering slastering drivel, inventing ramblings and total pish will criminalise matters that it will not criminalise. . And last but not least Mr stupid. Oh look The law in England recognises five types of hate crime on the basis of: Race, Religion, Disability, Sexual orientation, Transgender identity. The police and the CPS have agreed the following definition for identifying and flagging hate crimes: (oh look the police are now doing that in Scotland } "Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice, based on a person's disability or perceived disability; race or perceived race; or religion or perceived religion; or sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation or transgender identity or perceived transgender identity." That matey has applied in England for years. Why do you feel a continual need to make a total prat of yourself. And I am still waiting on all this evidence you have when you slastered the former FM stole £600,000 and the present gave Hamas money to allow his family out of Gaza. Your bile and hatred combined with the effect on the brain having to pay to drink your own excrement is getting worse. Your bile on all posts is still 100% wrong www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/hate-crime.
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Post by ProVeritas on Apr 3, 2024 10:42:11 GMT
As well as multiple complaints submitted about anti white racism displayed by the first minister, Polis Scotland have been reported to Polis Scotland about their hate monster advert engendering hate against young white males, in the case the complainant is Indian association in Scotland. So the SNP have now managed to incorporate Indians into the white/muslim stand off. The SNP voters must feel very proud of what they have reduced their country to. The SNP are now suffering from the same malaise as Westminster Policialy Parties - piss-poor leaders. Alex Salmond was politically astute, but less so PR astute. Nicola Sturgeon was less politically astute than Salmond, but quite PR astute. The current lot are neither, and it shows. All The Best
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Post by happyjack on Apr 3, 2024 10:52:57 GMT
“Rowling, who lives in Edinburgh, said: “If they go after any woman for simply calling a man a man, I’ll repeat that woman’s words and they can charge us both at once.” Isn’t that akin to sexual discrimination? What if it is a man who does this rather than a woman? On first reading it, you might be forgiven for thinking so However, i rather suspect that were i to stand in Princes Street and declare my firmly held view that having a fully functional dick and balls means you ain’t anything i recognise as a woman, and invite Ms Rowling to agree with me, i rather think she would. Because i don’t HATE them for trying to say they are a woman despite being so equipped. I simply don’t recognise them as such and consider their position ridiculous. Two very different things. These unfortunate people are not women to me either. However, I do accept that there are some tortured souls out there who absolutely feel to their very core that they are women despite the physical evidence to the contrary. I have tried to imagine what it would feel like if I had to live life perpetually confronted with that devastatingly painful contradiction and I can see that it must be unbearable, so I find their position, based upon their perspective, understandable, not ridiculous. I feel genuine pity for them, wish them peace of mind, and am prepared to accommodate their view up to the point where it does not clash with the rights, well-being and security of women and girls - as I hope we all do.
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Post by jaydee on Apr 3, 2024 10:55:34 GMT
As well as multiple complaints submitted about anti white racism displayed by the first minister, Polis Scotland have been reported to Polis Scotland about their hate monster advert engendering hate against young white males, in the case the complainant is Indian association in Scotland. So the SNP have now managed to incorporate Indians into the white/muslim stand off. The SNP voters must feel very proud of what they have reduced their country to. Mr Stupid at his stupid best. You actually make failing Grayling look like a expert. Of course it is going to create complaints. Every nut job in Scotland will be at it. That is why England, apart from Nottingham which for some reason has separately recorded 9,387 hate crimes. Police recorded crime figures in 2022/23 in England show that there were 145,214 offences where one or more of the centrally monitored hate crime strands were deemed to be a motivating factor. . These figures do not include Devon and Cornwall police force who did not provide data this year due to the implementation of a new IT system. So Mr stupid that is nearly 160,000 hate crimes recorded in England. Minus one force. It will end up around 170,000 So in your latest pish. ie now. What are you comparing it against. In the same period there were 5640 hate crimes in Scotland. And I am still waiting on this evidence you have on how the former FM stole £600,000, and the present gave hamas money to get his family out of Gaza I take it you now understand from your pish. the law of England does not apply in Scotland. And oh. Police Scotland were expecting a rise. Putting measures in place. But then when dealing with stupid people. They think everyone is as stupid as them
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Post by Handyman on Apr 3, 2024 10:59:47 GMT
The The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act comes into force next week, there has been speculation about the consequences about this, with the theory that JK Rowling could be liable to prosecution over tweets that she has made in the past. Jim Davidson is scheduled to carry out his show in Glenrothes next week, and has had to take legal advice whether he should cancel or not. Kelly Jay Keen has decided that she is going to challenge it and is protesting in Edinburgh with some other women, www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT5rFBZ6i1U&ab_channel=TheSpectatorHumza Yousaf and his lunatic supporters have created a huge mess, fucking idiots. As sure as night follows day. Police Scotland has received more than 3,000 hate crime reports since a new law was introduced on Monday, the BBC understands. It creates a new crime of "stirring up hatred" over protected characteristics. A large number were about a 2020 speech by First Minister Humza Yousaf - then justice secretary - highlighting white people in prominent public roles. Community Safety Minister Siobhian Brown said people were making "fake and vexatious complaints". Police Scotland said complaints about Mr Yousaf's speech were assessed at the time, with no crime committed and no action taken. The new law will not apply retrospectively. Scotland's new hate crime law comes into force Hate crime reports are handled by the force's Contact, Command and Control centres. These have been extremely busy but are understood to be coping with the number of complaints Ms Brown told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland programme that "misinformation" and publicity had led to the high number of reports. She also confirmed that a "fake complaint" was made using her name and contact details on Monday.
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Post by jaydee on Apr 3, 2024 11:30:44 GMT
On first reading it, you might be forgiven for thinking so However, i rather suspect that were i to stand in Princes Street and declare my firmly held view that having a fully functional dick and balls means you ain’t anything i recognise as a woman, and invite Ms Rowling to agree with me, i rather think she would. Because i don’t HATE them for trying to say they are a woman despite being so equipped. I simply don’t recognise them as such and consider their position ridiculous. Two very different things. These unfortunate people are not women to me either. However, I do accept that there are some tortured souls out there who absolutely feel to their very core that they are women despite the physical evidence to the contrary, and I have tried to imagine what it would feel like if I had to live life perpetually confronted with that devastatingly painful contradiction and I can see that it must be unbearable, so I find their position, based upon their perspective, understandable, not ridiculous. I feel genuine pity for them and wish them peace of mind - as I hope we all do. Ding dong warning warning warning ding dong warning. I actually agree with happy jack. FFS. I to agree that someone who has a dick is without doubt not a woman. And I suspect this is why the hate bill did not include woman. But it is a problem. As you describe them as unfortunate people, they without doubt need protection. This was brought about by the so called transgender Bryson. Who was just fecking at it, just like the clowns now reporting hate crimes .But that was expected. Till it dies down. hoping he would go to a female jail. Fortunately the former FM did not favour a blanket approach, but that had nothing to do with her. Despite the hate filled pish against her on that one. Just go back and look at the hate filled bile. Mostly from one Jock hating clown. . That was a matter for another authority. But there are those who really need protecting from the hate filled bile. In the case of JK Rowling. Her intention was not to stir up hatred. She simply stated a fact. In terms of the likes of Bryson she was 100% correct. In terms of those in genuine need. She was 100% wrong. In the middle is the answer. Finding it is another matter. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/09/transgender-people-equal-rights-self-identification-gender-recognition-act .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2024 11:41:24 GMT
JK Rowling seems to have addressed that issue, in the DT this morning, Over 3,800 reports of hate crime were recieved in one day yesterday. What about men, though? The media are literally referring to men with fake moobs as "her" and "she". It's wrong, and nobody should support anything that they believe to be wrong, especially when it's this deceitful.
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Post by om15 on Apr 3, 2024 11:58:44 GMT
JK Rowling has clearly stated her position, which is the position that I agree with.
Further debate that may give you further insights into the majority views of this nonsense and the stupidity of your idiotic first minister.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 3, 2024 12:35:32 GMT
The BBC news site reports as ‘breaking news’ that J K Rowlings tweets are NOT considered a hate crime under the islamic twat’s upending of the way Britain does things I’m unimpressed I had hoped the dorks in blue would try to bust her for them and reveal the real problem in today’s lefty run shithouse The Chinese make jokes about these sorts of goings on in Britain. To think that would be headline news eh? As if these cretins don't have anything more important to deal with. You see these same cretins come over to China and lecture them on how they should run their country. That's the standing joke in China.
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