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Post by sandypine on Mar 8, 2024 9:29:09 GMT
Muslims ARE NOT an ethnic minority, Muslims are adherants to the Muslim / Islamic faith, same as Christians are people who adhere to the Christian faith. Sikhs and Hindus are not an ethnic minority either. Muslims are African, Asian, European, they are black and they are white. Now give a REAL and VALID reason as to why there should not be a national war memorial for Muslims who volunteered, fought, and died in two world wars. ? The law lords stated quite clearly some 40 years ago that Sikhs are indeed an ethnic group and made judgements in law on that basis. If that judgment places Sikhs as an ethnic group for following a religion then that has opened the door to other groups. It is the way of the world that when on tries to be fair to some it results in unfairness to others, Multiculturalism exacerbates this problem because the groups are more tightly knit and also interwoven into society. My real and valid reason is that once you go down that road of identity separation then there is no end and since we have started on that trail this is just another step that we can end now also I am not clear why public money is affixed to the project as almost all others to my knowledge are voluntary subscription. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 8, 2024 9:39:14 GMT
Your REAL reason is that you are a Bigot, and you dont like Muslims
You and your kind on these boards will push against anything that attempts to put minorities in a good or posotive light, its the same in every topic, you want to pursue the road to division and hate.
The pathetic excuse that "going down that road is identity separation" is not valid, we already have many different War Memorials for Americans, New Zealanders, Hindus & Sikhs, Australians, I personaly contributed to one in Hull dedicated to the merchant men ( merchant fleet ).
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 8, 2024 9:43:00 GMT
What really pisses me off is that I can't think of any group of people who have made a more negative contribution to our country than the muslims. In fact I can't think of a single positive contribution they have made. Wherever they go they cause trouble. But our politicians are so shit scared of them that they never call them out for the problems they cause. This fucking memorial is the last straw really. If the muslims want a memorial they can get planning permission and pay for it themselves. If the taxpayer is going to fund a memorial then I suggest that it is a memorial to the hundreds of innocent people in the UK who have been murdered by muslims. As far as I'm concerned the muslims are the new N-a-z-i-s and I seriously doubt that they made any contribution to the war effort. Hitler started WWII with the intention of wiping out the Jews and establishing the Third Reich. The muslims stated aim is to create a global caliphate and wipe out the Jews. The only thing different is that the muslims are doing it by stealth (terrorism and infiltrating countries) while Hitler tried to do it by war. Don't confuse the Muslims of the early 20th C with the arsholes we have to put up with today . The Empire was glue that held our world together and the call to arms did not go unanswered .Over 1.5 million Indians joined the war effort, 400,000 of them were Muslim combat troops . Records from 19 countries show around 4 million Muslims either fought or served as labourers during WW1. Lets not ignore the contribution they made , it just makes the argument for our current problems weaker . Lets also remember the Muslim community also pay taxes and if the paltry sum of a million squid keeps them happy and maybe reminds them of the sacrifice their Grandfathers made for King and Country its money well spent as far as Im concerned . |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 8, 2024 9:47:18 GMT
Your REAL reason is that you are a Bigot, and you dont like Muslims You and your kind on these boards will push against anything that attempts to put minorities in a good or posotive light, its the same in every topic, you want to pursue the road to division and hate. The pathetic excuse that "going down that road is identity separation" is not valid, we already have many different War Memorials for Americans, New Zealanders, Hindus & Sikhs, Australians, I personaly contributed to one in Hull dedicated to the merchant men ( merchant fleet ). Which was the point that a continuation was a poor route to go and involving public money smacks of some type of appeasement, for what I do not know. I see you managed to revert to the time honoured bigot and anti Muslim slur. If projecting something in a good and positive light is a truth spoken I have no objection, we do however seem to be Joseph Goebbels in reverse in that good and positive things are to be stated again and again irrespective of their truth and negative things should be punished in law. How we came to this pass I have no clear idea. |
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Post by ratcliff on Mar 8, 2024 9:50:12 GMT
Can you see a million quids worth there HH because? I am fucked if I can.... So if the Muslim war memorial cost £1 you'd be cool with it? Provided it was privately funded , no |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 8, 2024 10:18:05 GMT
The law lords stated quite clearly some 40 years ago that Sikhs are indeed an ethnic group and made judgements in law on that basis. If that judgment places Sikhs as an ethnic group for following a religion then that has opened the door to other groups. It is the way of the world that when on tries to be fair to some it results in unfairness to others, Multiculturalism exacerbates this problem because the groups are more tightly knit and also interwoven into society. My real and valid reason is that once you go down that road of identity separation then there is no end and since we have started on that trail this is just another step that we can end now also I am not clear why public money is affixed to the project as almost all others to my knowledge are voluntary subscription. Jews too, but not Christians or Muslims. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 10:19:17 GMT
Your REAL reason is that you are a Bigot, and you dont like MuslimsYou and your kind on these boards will push against anything that attempts to put minorities in a good or posotive light, its the same in every topic, you want to pursue the road to division and hate. The pathetic excuse that "going down that road is identity separation" is not valid, we already have many different War Memorials for Americans, New Zealanders, Hindus & Sikhs, Australians, I personaly contributed to one in Hull dedicated to the merchant men ( merchant fleet ). The real reason is fiddles that those mossie arseholes are taking over and look upon the rest of us as infidels... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 8, 2024 10:36:20 GMT
What really pisses me off is that I can't think of any group of people who have made a more negative contribution to our country than the Conservatives. In fact I can't think of a single positive contribution they have made. Wherever they go they cause trouble. But our politicians are so shit scared of them that they never call them out for the problems they cause. This fucking memorial is the last straw really.
If the Conservatives want a memorial they can get planning permission and pay for it themselves. If the taxpayer is going to fund a memorial then I suggest that it is a memorial to the hundreds of innocent people in the UK who have been murdered by Conservatives. As far as I'm concerned the Conservatives are the new N-a-z-i-s and I seriously doubt that they made any contribution to the war effort. Hitler started WWII with the intention of wiping out the Jews and establishing the Third Reich. The Conservatived stated aim is to create a global workhouse and wipe out the dissenters. The only thing different is that the Conservatives are doing it by stealth (terrorism and infiltrating countries) while Hitler tried to do it by war.
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 8, 2024 10:38:59 GMT
Why not start a new thread Andy "What have the Conservatives ever done for us?"
Meanwhile we'll continue here on the theme "What have Muslims ever done for us?" When we're done we can compare notes and see which has been more beneficial. Or malevolent as the case may be.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 10:39:03 GMT
What really pisses me off is that I can't think of any group of people who have made a more negative contribution to our country than the Conservatives. In fact I can't think of a single positive contribution they have made. Wherever they go they cause trouble. But our politicians are so shit scared of them that they never call them out for the problems they cause. This fucking memorial is the last straw really. If the Conservatives want a memorial they can get planning permission and pay for it themselves. If the taxpayer is going to fund a memorial then I suggest that it is a memorial to the hundreds of innocent people in the UK who have been murdered by Conservatives. As far as I'm concerned the Conservatives are the new N-a-z-i-s and I seriously doubt that they made any contribution to the war effort. Hitler started WWII with the intention of wiping out the Jews and establishing the Third Reich. The Conservatived stated aim is to create a global workhouse and wipe out the dissenters. The only thing different is that the Conservatives are doing it by stealth (terrorism and infiltrating countries) while Hitler tried to do it by war. Yet another anti tory rant. What exactly has labour ever done for our country apart from pissing tax payers money up the wall? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 10:40:23 GMT
Why not start a new thread Andy "What have the Conservatives ever done for us?" It seems it has pissed him and the other remainers off...So thats a positive.. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 8, 2024 10:42:58 GMT
Your REAL reason is that you are a Bigot, and you dont like Muslims You and your kind on these boards will push against anything that attempts to put minorities in a good or posotive light, its the same in every topic, you want to pursue the road to division and hate... Oh the irony. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 8, 2024 10:48:26 GMT
What really pisses me off is that I can't think of any group of people who have made a more negative contribution to our country than the Conservatives. In fact I can't think of a single positive contribution they have made. Wherever they go they cause trouble. But our politicians are so shit scared of them that they never call them out for the problems they cause. This fucking memorial is the last straw really. If the Conservatives want a memorial they can get planning permission and pay for it themselves. If the taxpayer is going to fund a memorial then I suggest that it is a memorial to the hundreds of innocent people in the UK who have been murdered by Conservatives. As far as I'm concerned the Conservatives are the new N-a-z-i-s and I seriously doubt that they made any contribution to the war effort. Hitler started WWII with the intention of wiping out the Jews and establishing the Third Reich. The Conservatived stated aim is to create a global workhouse and wipe out the dissenters. The only thing different is that the Conservatives are doing it by stealth (terrorism and infiltrating countries) while Hitler tried to do it by war. LOL! You really are deluded.
Never mind, Andy. Very soon the nasty Tories will be gone and you can enjoy your left wing utopia.
Nothing will actually change, but you can keep telling yourself that the exact same shit no longer stinks because it's your shit now.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 8, 2024 10:48:43 GMT
So why bring cost into it? And why not? Have they anything to hide? Because the cost obviously isn't the issue for you. It just seems like you have certain trigger words and "Muslims" is one of them. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 8, 2024 10:50:44 GMT
Why not start a new thread Andy "What have the Conservatives ever done for us?" It seems it has pissed him and the other remainers off...So thats a positive.. Hmm. That sounds remarkably like the definition of trolling to me. Careful. |
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