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Post by witchfinder on Mar 7, 2024 21:49:49 GMT
Muslims ARE NOT an ethnic minority, Muslims are adherants to the Muslim / Islamic faith, same as Christians are people who adhere to the Christian faith. Sikhs and Hindus are not an ethnic minority either. Muslims are African, Asian, European, they are black and they are white.
Now give a REAL and VALID reason as to why there should not be a national war memorial for Muslims who volunteered, fought, and died in two world wars. ?
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 7, 2024 22:01:44 GMT
Just a thought... If Muslims are getting their own war memorial, will their names be removed from other war memorials that commemorate all soldiers from every faith creed and colour who paid the ultimate sacrifice? Or will Muslims be mentioned twice, perhaps to commemorate the fact that they appear to be twice as important as anyone else. Lots of people are mentioned twice , in the area where they fell they will be on the memorials in the many war grave cemetery's in Europe . They will also be remembered at local war memorials , in churches ,Schools , football clubs ,Golf clubs in fact anywhere that cared to do it . As I said previously the government gave the Muslims land in Regents park to build a mosque after ww2 in recognition of the war effort . If they didn't include a memorial that's down to them What do you think the reaction would be if someone in this Christian country, suggested a memorial just for Christians? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 7, 2024 23:37:00 GMT
Muslims ARE NOT an ethnic minority, Muslims are adherants to the Muslim / Islamic faith, same as Christians are people who adhere to the Christian faith. Sikhs and Hindus are not an ethnic minority either. Muslims are African, Asian, European, they are black and they are white. Now give a REAL and VALID reason as to why there should not be a national war memorial for Muslims who volunteered, fought, and died in two world wars. ? Muslims are a minority in the majority Christian UK. |
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Post by Totheleft on Mar 8, 2024 0:03:04 GMT
I'm glad you started a thread, I was about to when I saw this. This is a weird form of appeasement towards Sajid Javid, is it? Well, just a couple of questions. Is this for Muslims on any side of the wars, or just those that fought for Britain? How many Muslims fought for Britain in WW1 (serious question)? What about one for the Christians, Jews, Sikhs, agnostics and atheists? What difference will this memorial make except to stoke divisions? There is a war memorial to the Sikhs. It is on the roundabout at the junction of Jimmy Hill Way and Stoney Stanton Road in Coventry. Didn't know that Andrewc I will delete my post . |
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 8, 2024 6:04:21 GMT
Lots of people are mentioned twice , in the area where they fell they will be on the memorials in the many war grave cemetery's in Europe . They will also be remembered at local war memorials , in churches ,Schools , football clubs ,Golf clubs in fact anywhere that cared to do it . As I said previously the government gave the Muslims land in Regents park to build a mosque after ww2 in recognition of the war effort . If they didn't include a memorial that's down to them What do you think the reaction would be if someone in this Christian country, suggested a memorial just for Christians? The reaction would probably be zero as other faiths have already got their own memorials (including muslims) .Having said that most of our memorials are while Christian in nature anyway are inclusive of other faiths . But we all know that this isn't about war memorials but about Muslims attempting to get some good press . If they cared so much for such things there would have been one so we have to ask ,why now? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 7:34:18 GMT
What do you think the reaction would be if someone in this Christian country, suggested a memorial just for Christians? The reaction would probably be zero as other faiths have already got their own memorials (including muslims) .Having said that most of our memorials are while Christian in nature anyway are inclusive of other faiths . But we all know that this isn't about war memorials but about Muslims attempting to get some good press . If they cared so much for such things there would have been one so we have to ask ,why now? I think the memorials put up for animanls which lost their lives in both world wars are the only ones that should hold any merit. Many animals like horses and dogs etc lost their lives and they didn't even have the luxury of choosing what regiments they were in.. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 8, 2024 7:42:23 GMT
So it's purely a cost issue for you rather than any kind of principle? Can you see a million quids worth there HH because? I am fucked if I can.... So if the Muslim war memorial cost £1 you'd be cool with it? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 7:54:30 GMT
Can you see a million quids worth there HH because? I am fucked if I can.... So if the Muslim war memorial cost £1 you'd be cool with it? Like fuck I would...Are their lives more precious than those of any other faiths? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 8, 2024 7:57:28 GMT
So if the Muslim war memorial cost £1 you'd be cool with it? Like fuck I would...Are their lives more precious than those of any other faiths? But are they any less precious than other faiths? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 7:59:12 GMT
Like fuck I would...Are their lives more precious than those of any other faiths? But are they any less precious than other faiths? Nope. And that is exactly why we should not pander to their warped agenda. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 8, 2024 8:44:36 GMT
What really pisses me off is that I can't think of any group of people who have made a more negative contribution to our country than the muslims. In fact I can't think of a single positive contribution they have made. Wherever they go they cause trouble. But our politicians are so shit scared of them that they never call them out for the problems they cause. This fucking memorial is the last straw really.
If the muslims want a memorial they can get planning permission and pay for it themselves. If the taxpayer is going to fund a memorial then I suggest that it is a memorial to the hundreds of innocent people in the UK who have been murdered by muslims. As far as I'm concerned the muslims are the new (do not purposefully bypass wordfilter) and I seriously doubt that they made any contribution to the war effort. Hitler started WWII with the intention of wiping out the Jews and establishing the Third Reich. The muslims stated aim is to create a global caliphate and wipe out the Jews. The only thing different is that the muslims are doing it by stealth (terrorism and infiltrating countries) while Hitler tried to do it by war.
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 8, 2024 8:54:42 GMT
Going back to the original post, and the venue for these memorials, the National Memorial Arboretum, there are already existing memorials for the Jews and the Sikhs, and clearly the British Legion have given the go ahead for a Muslim one also. The Legion could if it so wished stipulate how much or how little could be spent on a memorial, demand they all looked the same etc, but indications are that they interfere as little as possible and permit a variety of designs as well as expenditure.
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 8, 2024 9:16:35 GMT
So if the Muslim war memorial cost £1 you'd be cool with it? Like fuck I would...Are their lives more precious than those of any other faiths? So why bring cost into it? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 8, 2024 9:19:20 GMT
Like fuck I would...Are their lives more precious than those of any other faiths? So why bring cost into it? And why not? Have they anything to hide? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 8, 2024 9:28:20 GMT
At £1 million it must be gold plated. You can build a mansion for that money. All they need is a block of concrete and a few brass plaques. STill that's not really the issue here. The point is that the muslims should be kicked out - and if we can't actually do that (which we can't) then the laws against religious exemptions should be repealed. That would make life a bit difficult for them.
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