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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2024 17:27:39 GMT
Can't see a £1m cost in that one either So it's purely a cost issue for you rather than any kind of principle? Can you see a million quids worth there HH because? I am fucked if I can.... |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 7, 2024 17:28:19 GMT
Did it have planning permission? Yes, it was approved by Coventry City Council as per the link. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2024 17:35:58 GMT
Did it have planning permission? Yes, it was approved by Coventry City Council as per the link. I guess there is a first for every thing as 90% of their mosques do not... |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 7, 2024 17:39:43 GMT
I think the question resolves more around the need for every sect and ethnic group to have their own war memorials. Should Methodists and Catholics be agitating for their own too?
The cost question only arises when the taxpayer is required to fund it, as appears to be the case with this Muslim one.
A reminder that the Bomber Command memorial, which didn't get installed until 2012, was funded entirely by public subscription, as is the cost of ongoing maintenance. The latter including the removal of 'Islamic' graffiti.
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 7, 2024 17:42:03 GMT
Yes, it was approved by Coventry City Council as per the link. I guess there is a first for every thing as 90% of their mosques do not... Do you have a link for that. Although we do have a moderate Muslim community here, the Sikh community is much bigger. I can only think of a handful of mosques here. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2024 17:54:44 GMT
I guess there is a first for every thing as 90% of their mosques do not... Do you have a link for that. Although we do have a moderate Muslim community here, the Sikh community is much bigger. I can only think of a handful of mosques here. Many are built as tempory structure which can circum navigate planning rules. Just do a search on google as most of the links are to PDF files.. |
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 7, 2024 17:59:53 GMT
Might help
Sorry link didnt work
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Post by ratcliff on Mar 7, 2024 18:00:56 GMT
Can't see a £1m cost in that one either So it's purely a cost issue for you rather than any kind of principle? You can have a memorial to Batman or Vera Lynn if you want it , I don't particularly care - just don't expect me to believe that that a standard memorial type stone as seen on village greens nationwide costs £1m or that the taxpayer should fund it . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 7, 2024 18:02:59 GMT
Just a thought...
If Muslims are getting their own war memorial, will their names be removed from other war memorials that commemorate all soldiers from every faith creed and colour who paid the ultimate sacrifice? Or will Muslims be mentioned twice, perhaps to commemorate the fact that they appear to be twice as important as anyone else.
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 7, 2024 18:05:35 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2024 18:07:28 GMT
So it's purely a cost issue for you rather than any kind of principle? You can have a memorial to Batman or Vera Lynn if you want it , I don't particularly care - just don't expect me to believe that that a standard memorial type stone as seen on village greens nationwide costs £1m . War memorials were built as a tribute and appreciation of the fallen and not for religious reasons. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2024 18:11:53 GMT
Just a thought... If Muslims are getting their own war memorial, will their names be removed from other war memorials that commemorate all soldiers from every faith creed and colour who paid the ultimate sacrifice? Or will Muslims be mentioned twice, perhaps to commemorate the fact that they appear to be twice as important as anyone else. How many memorials have been desicrated by our uninvited guests who see them as a quick way of making money by removing bronze memorials to flog off as scrap metal? |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 7, 2024 18:52:00 GMT
The first Mosque in the UK was built in 1889, today there are 1500 Mosques in the UK , according to the BBC
A Memorial to commemorate the " Holocaust "is going to be sited near the Palace of Westminster" I wounder how long it will be before that is damaged ?
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 7, 2024 19:23:11 GMT
Just a thought... If Muslims are getting their own war memorial, will their names be removed from other war memorials that commemorate all soldiers from every faith creed and colour who paid the ultimate sacrifice? Or will Muslims be mentioned twice, perhaps to commemorate the fact that they appear to be twice as important as anyone else. Lots of people are mentioned twice , in the area where they fell they will be on the memorials in the many war grave cemetery's in Europe . They will also be remembered at local war memorials , in churches ,Schools , football clubs ,Golf clubs in fact anywhere that cared to do it . As I said previously the government gave the Muslims land in Regents park to build a mosque after ww2 in recognition of the war effort . If they didn't include a memorial that's down to them |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 7, 2024 19:34:46 GMT
So on that basis it would be just the ticket to have a memorial to the white soldiers who died defending King and Country after all many white people died and we should disregard out of hand anyone who says it may cause offence. As far as I am aware the Commonwealth war graves are neutral in terms of religion etc. So, you have decided to alter what this topic is really all about, you want to change it from a topic about soldiers of different faiths, into a topic about soldiers of different colours ( or races ). ? The Commonwealth War Graves Commission IS neutral on faith, they are an organisation part funded by India The whole point here is virtualy all War Memorials in this country are specifically Christian, almost all have Christian emblems, mostly Crosses, the idea of the proposal is to provide recognition that it was not only Christians who fought and died in the two World Wars, seems fairly reasonable to me. WE already have specifically a War Memorial in this country for New Zealanders, and one for Australians, we also have one for Americans and near Brighton there is a War Memorial for Sikhs and Hindus. You altered it by referring to Sikhs and Jews both of whom are ethnic minorities and there is much moves afoot to make Muslims a race issue through the amazing ever changing all things to all people Islamophobia. We have never considered the incongruity of the Christian symbols as regards Atheists, Druids, Evolutionists, Agnostics and perhaps more recently scientologists. The Christian symbols are symbols of the country not specifically religion. Many people hardly notice the symbols as being indicative of the religion |
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