Blue wall collapsing ?

It is being predicted that Labour will have a 256 seat majority. They had a 179 seat majority in their 1997 "landslide victory". There is a "high prediction" that Labour's majority could be as much as 430 ... with the Conservatives down to 44 seats (making the Lib Dems the "official opposition").

I wonder if the bookies will give me odds on the complete demise of the Conservative Party?

If my inheritance from my deceased brother comes through before the election I might have some fun standing in my local election ... what should I call my party?

Just thought of something ... maybe the 'UKPOLITICSDEBATE PARTY'? Some of you lot here would certainly attract a bit of interest from voters! (one of two of you might put them off though, he he).        

This is wonderful.
I can't wait for the Utopia which will arrive when Labour put right all the wrongs of the country.

In 1993 the Governing Canadian Conservative Party suffered a spectacular wipeout, losing 154 of their 156 seats in one of the worst-ever defeats for a governing party in the Western world. 

I was over there in 2019 Toronto was bad but Montreal come dusk was like a scene out of a zombie movie with all the homeless appearing from the underground network of tunnels and shopping centres .

But yes the tories deserve to lose as many seats as it takes to return them to conservatism . The downside of that is a Labour government that looks like being worse than the worst efforts of the tories .

Just a point here. It wasn't the uk people who chucked Boris Johnson out of number 10 (ie it wasn't democratic). Personally i don't think even Johnson's 'appeal' is enough. To large degree there are now irretrievable trust issues with the Conservatives. They would have to address some of the nation's problems to get that trust back and there is no sign they intend to address any of them.

I recognise that your comment is meant with the utmost sarcasm, but to some extent I share in it. Very little will get very much better under Labour. The best we can hope for is just a little less corruption and incompetence - which is far from guaranteed - and some areas of our economy and society getting just a little less shit. Maybe just a little more growth.

I wouldnt bet money on any of that, but it is probably the best we can hope for. Which is why we could well have a situation where more people do not vote at all than vote for any particular party,

Even if they conjured up a plan that would effectively address some of the nation's myriad problems, there is probably insufficient time left for it to be widely seen to be working. We have arrived at a point where the majority of the public appear to have decisively turned against the governing party. When that happens it is very difficult to turn things around. Even last minute tax cuts will widely be seen as a cynical bribe by a cynical public in such a mood.

The Tories probably need a period in opposition to sort their own house out and get any necessary infighting out of their system, and to rebuild anew, then regain the trust of the people. They will be doing well if they can do it in 5 years. Such things often take 10.

Of course, if as seems likely Labour get in, much of the spotlight aside from big ticket spectacles like leadership contests, will shift away from the Tories to Labour and any successes or failures in office. How well or how badly Labour in government is seen to do will have a potentially large impact upon public opinion, and could if things do not go well start to make any rejuvenated Tory party under new leadership seem worth looking at again by elements of the public. But how well or badly Labour does in office is largely not under Tory control. But events have recently proven that things going badly is not always under the full control of the party in government either, the largest example being Covid which did much to make things worse in this country, and would have done even if Labour had been in power.

I mean imagine if Labour under Corbyn had won in 2019 and then Covid had come along to derail everything. Labour in government would also probably be deeply unpopular by now too.