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Post by Totheleft on Feb 15, 2024 22:57:16 GMT
Hope so we have to wait and see there not on power yet . At least your admitting the Triple lock buys votes. Well done you Oh - I thought you had inside information. Because the last thing Labour said about it was that they were keeping the triple lock. perhaps it was just wishful thinking on your part and Labour are just as wedded to attracting the pensioner vote as the Tories.. There nothing set in the manifesto yet . But Deputy leader miss Rayner said we have to see the Financial situation . Regarding the Triple lock . What ever happenes neither party labs or cons can't afford it to continue. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 15, 2024 23:01:55 GMT
Nobody claimed that Brexit would solve every problem at once. The Uk has a soviet and they want things put back as they were. it takes time we had the Referendum in 2016 over 7yrs ago .how long do you want . To solve every single problem? Since the referendum we have had 4 years of 'procedural delay' - which takes us to 2020 - two years of covid - which takes us to 2022 - and then, more recently we have had a pair of of civil service soft coups. We are still in the argument. The soviet is struggling to get its old throne fully back. The next election + possible aftermath will be interesting. It may even do so much damage it makes the argument moot. There are lines of tractor spraying manure at politicians in Europe btw. The advantage of Brexit is that makes the UK government notionally in control of UK and so responsible for decisions. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 15, 2024 23:23:05 GMT
it takes time we had the Referendum in 2016 over 7yrs ago .how long do you want . To solve every single problem? Since the referendum we have had 4 years of 'procedural delay' - which takes us to 2020 - two years of covid - which takes us to 2022 - and then, more recently we have had a pair of of civil service soft coups. We are still in the argument. The soviet is struggling to get its old throne fully back. The next election + possible aftermath will be interesting. It may even do so much damage it makes the argument moot. There are lines of tractor spraying manure at politicians in Europe btw. The advantage of Brexit is that makes the UK government notionally in control of UK and so responsible for decisions. The advantage of Brexit is that makes the UK government notionally in control of UK and so responsible for decisions.[/quote] I've just Shown that isn't the case. Are you saying all decision making had stopped because of Covid let's not forget 2019 election over 4yrs ago where borris lied about getting brexit done . Even the Main campaigner Farge. Said Brexit failed. What can't you Brexiteers understand you been led up the Garden path . And when labour get into power Brexit will truly be dead in the water. Think Sunak Said about 400 EU laws remain and that post Boris. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 15, 2024 23:34:06 GMT
I've just Shown that isn't the case. No you didn't. The UK government can no longer blame the authority of the EU for its decisions. It has the authority to do what it wants and so can be held directly responsible for what it does and does not do. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 15, 2024 23:40:53 GMT
I've just Shown that isn't the case. No you didn't. The UK government can no longer blame the authority of the EU for its decisions. It has the authority to do what it wants and so can be held directly responsible for what it does and does not do. So why are they still. 400 EU laws tieing US down. If they don't tie us down what was the purpose of The Referendum |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 15, 2024 23:42:12 GMT
Nobody claimed that Brexit would solve every problem at once. The Uk has a soviet and they want things put back as they were. it takes time we had the Referendum in 2016 over 7yrs ago .how long do you want . Name one thing that Changed in that time can't think of any .You have abadoned project fear.... |
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Post by Orac on Feb 16, 2024 0:01:24 GMT
No you didn't. The UK government can no longer blame the authority of the EU for its decisions. It has the authority to do what it wants and so can be held directly responsible for what it does and does not do. So why are they still. 400 EU laws tieing US down. Because the UK government has not repealed them? I don't think you are quite understanding what is being said. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 1:25:59 GMT
So why are they still. 400 EU laws tieing US down. Because the UK government has not repealed them? I don't think you are quite understanding what is being said. I do understand what's being side I accept that the UK Government hasn't repealed them. What I don't accept is they had no time even if Covid crisis Stopped it what I don't accept. The hight of Covid was 4 years ago and the 400 EU laws still remain . Like I said no Change to the Status Quo And you Brexiter was led up the Garden path . There no other way of understanding it . |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 1:27:37 GMT
it takes time we had the Referendum in 2016 over 7yrs ago .how long do you want . Name one thing that Changed in that time can't think of any .You have abadoned project fear.... What project fear most of what they said is Correct |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 2:16:29 GMT
You have abadoned project fear.... What project fear most of what they said is Correct Only to a dumbfuck... |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2024 7:47:46 GMT
You have abadoned project fear.... What project fear most of what they said is Correct yes, the house price crash, share price crash and mass unemployment was particularly traumatic..  |
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Post by Orac on Feb 16, 2024 7:53:59 GMT
Because the UK government has not repealed them? I don't think you are quite understanding what is being said. Like I said no Change to the Status Quo The Uk government can now be held responsible because it has the power. I keep answering your question, it's not my fault you don't like the answer. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 16, 2024 16:21:45 GMT
It is being predicted that Labour will have a 256 seat majority. They had a 179 seat majority in their 1997 "landslide victory". There is a "high prediction" that Labour's majority could be as much as 430 ... with the Conservatives down to 44 seats (making the Lib Dems the "official opposition"). I wonder if the bookies will give me odds on the complete demise of the Conservative Party? If my inheritance from my deceased brother comes through before the election I might have some fun standing in my local election ... what should I call my party? Just thought of something ... maybe the 'UKPOLITICSDEBATE PARTY'? Some of you lot here would certainly attract a bit of interest from voters! (one of two of you might put them off though, he he). Go to the nearest cheap hardware store Purchase an eye-blinding dayglo plastic bucket When the proroguing of parliament is announced, stand in a high foot traffic area of your neck of the woods woth a placard announcing yourself as a prospective parliamentary candidate and label the bucket ‘donations for my deposit’ If in two hours you are not substantially on the way to getting the £500 you need, give up. The world is not ready for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 22:40:34 GMT
it takes time we had the Referendum in 2016 over 7yrs ago .how long do you want . Name one thing that Changed in that time can't think of any .You have abadoned project fear.... When I see your avatar I don't read the words. I just see the cartoon picture and think of you, lol |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 22:42:46 GMT
it takes time we had the Referendum in 2016 over 7yrs ago .how long do you want . To solve every single problem? Since the referendum we have had 4 years of 'procedural delay' - which takes us to 2020 - two years of covid - which takes us to 2022 - and then, more recently we have had a pair of of civil service soft coups. We are still in the argument. The soviet is struggling to get its old throne fully back. The next election + possible aftermath will be interesting. It may even do so much damage it makes the argument moot. There are lines of tractor spraying manure at politicians in Europe btw. The advantage of Brexit is that makes the UK government notionally in control of UK and so responsible for decisions. Meanwhile, back on planet Earth.... |
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