Polling

The Bozo cheerleaders around here and in the Tory party certainly don't seem to think these things matter to the rest of us.

It is rather amusing to think that in spite of everything that has become clear about him since 2019, they still think of him as the ideal choice.

It really would be most entertaining to see him back as leader, whilst the rest of us who are far less deluded, get the popcorn at the ready as we sit back and enjoy the shitshow between now and the election. I almost hope he does become leader again just for shits and giggles. And when everything ends in disaster we can all enjoy the spectacle of numerous conspiracy theories being paraded before us to explain it all. Lol

The Bozo supporters utterly fail to grasp that no one outside their own thought bubble believes a word he says anymore. He could promise the earth and no one would believe it. That Starmer is hardly a paragon of honesty either when it comes to policy promises would do little to change that. The best way for the Tories to challenge an endlessly flip flopping Labour leader is to have a paragon of honesty and integrity in charge of their own side. Not the biggest and most corrupt liar they have, lol. 

And you assume that people vote for the same reasons that you do. I in fact do not assume that everyone thinks like me. If you have ever gone door to door on behalf of a political party you soon learn that. But a few things remain clear. Far fewer people currently support the Tories than they did in 2019. Far more people have come to realise that Bozo is a narcissistic serial liar. Which means he is going to be far less popular amongst the electorate than he was back then. All the polling evidence thus far is telling us this. If you ever listen to radio phone ins, hardly anyone outside the ranks of committed Tories ever sings Bozo's praises anymore. So the fact that he won an 80 seat majority back then is utterly irrelevant to his likely popularity or lack of it right now.

If you think the key to another 80 seat majority is to have him back in charge, you need some sort of evidence to support the likelihood of that. Because most of the evidence out there does not. It does seem that lots of people have made up their minds to have turned against both the Tories and Bozo.

As regards Labour, I as you know do not support them either. But we are up against the simplicities of thinking amongst the politically disinterested masses. The thought processes of many who float tend to be rather simple. They decide definitively that they have had enough of the ruling party. They develop a desire to get them out of office. And they vote for whomever is most likely where they are to do that, without really understanding, or even caring, all that much about what the alternative actually is. This appears to have happened in the minds of the masses now. Which probably means that Labour will win on the basis of being the Not The Tories Party. Which is why Starmer is so scared of putting any kind of policy out there which might scare off a few of the simpletons whose votes he is hoping for.

And when Labour get in, depending upon how good or bad a government they are perceived to be determining how soon, at some point the lumpen masses will turn against them. At which point the Tories will get back in by being the Not The Labour Party. 

And so the cycle will continue with neither party offering meaningful change, and ever fewer people seeing any point in voting at all.

And yet Major won in 1992 with more votes than anyone, including Blair and Johnson, have ever polled since.

Charisma and personality is overrated and can be undone by demonstrated negative character traits. As it was with Blair and Johnson in the end. Blair today is almost universally disliked by everyone outside the committed ranks of New Labourites.

Exactly. To think that everyone voted for Boris because he was popular, rather than many people thinking he was the lesser of two evils against Corbyn is a little deluded. Whilst he undeniably had his fan base, he was never universally popular. To see Tories thinking he's the saviour after he did more to destroy them than Truss and Sunak seems just somewhat bizarre. They want to go back there fine, but don't expect the country to follow.

Nope, that's the exact opposite of what I said.



Perhaps because Boris is no longer the leader.



Assuming the the majority cared about any of that then.



No it isn't, Boris is no longer the leader and therefore totally irrelevant to the current situation.



Because he is no longer the leader and therefore irrelevant.



I never suggested any such thing – again, you make subjective assumptions.



And there we agree.

However, in future may I suggest that you actually read what I wrote rather than attempting to put words in my mouth when I am in fact saying the exact opposite.

This thread is about polling. Are we not to hiliight the crimes committed by the major parties? Or is it just attack Boris because he pissed on the remainers parade?