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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 5, 2024 13:27:39 GMT
Yea surly that's only.legal. im your mind. Any country is entitled to safegaurd their terittorial wates as they see fit lefty old bean. Not quite true in that respect, as hopefully you have gained some knowledge from these debates. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 5, 2024 14:27:16 GMT
Any country is entitled to safegaurd their terittorial wates as they see fit lefty old bean. Not quite true in that respect, as hopefully you have gained some knowledge from these debates. We along with other coutries are not obliged to handle criminals with soft gloves. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 5, 2024 15:17:34 GMT
Well it's a sad day for the Church when they are having to 'make up the numbers' of the congregation by enrolling illegal asylum seekers, these numbers are being used to warrant not closing the Churches down, so this is what they have had to resort to, illegal migrants being used by people traffickers, and then being used by the Churches, something terribly sinister going on here. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13046279/Asylum-seekers-Bibby-Stockholm-Christianit'Great news for the congregation, but not for the taxpayer': Fury as 40 asylum seekers on Bibby Stockholm 'convert to Christianity' amid fears churches are 'rubber stamping' changes of religion used to avoid deportation One in seven of the 300 migrants are said to be attending churches. The big question, who is using who? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 5, 2024 15:28:56 GMT
Well it's a sad day for the Church when they are having to 'make up the numbers' of the congregation by enrolling illegal asylum seekers, these numbers are being used to warrant not closing the Churches down, so this is what they have had to resort to, illegal migrants being used by people traffickers, and then being used by the Churches, something terribly sinister going on here. you www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13046279/Asylum-seekers-Bibby-Stockholm-Christianit'Great news for the congregation, but not for the taxpayer': Fury as 40 asylum seekers on Bibby Stockholm 'convert to Christianity' amid fears churches are 'rubber stamping' changes of religion used to avoid deportation One in seven of the 300 migrants are said to be attending churches. The big question, who is using who? you do know there Prision Chaplins and in the Armed services even on the Battle field They have a Moral duty if you understand that. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Feb 5, 2024 15:39:46 GMT
I'm struck by the similar reaction a few years ago to asylum seekers using their homosexuality as grounds to claim asylum.
"S/He's just gaming the system!" was the common cry.
(If the one person I know personally who was granted Leave To Remain - and later, citizenship - due to fear of imprisonment for his sexuality (in Myanmar) was "gaming the system", he's doing it like a boss - As his hubby and adopted kids will attest..)
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 5, 2024 15:45:31 GMT
I don't know why anyone would think that asylum seekers are gaming the system... ..a total mystery..  An asylum seeker who won refugee status after claiming to be gay went on to father three children with three different women..
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 5, 2024 15:47:45 GMT
Set up an office near Calais to take asylum claims,make it clear any arriving by boat will be deported immediately. Campaign to change asylum rules, movement of people is going to swamp Europe and here if we do nothing. Indeed that is the beginnings of the right answer, Wapentake. There should be no reason to then travel by boat but make it a condition of the deal with France that any who do can be returned to France. Then review acceptance and modernise guidelines on acceptance of asylum claims (mirroring rules used in other western countries), invest in and train up enough processors to make reasonably quick decisions and agree with France that any failed seekers that have come through this route are returned to them. Can even process claims overseas if you want but only if claims processed quickly and successful applicants then come here. All that seems potentially doable dappy except the bit about 'modernising guidelines of asylum claims'.
If not for the activist legal sector in the UK as well as the well-financed charity infrastructure and generous legal aid the percentage of initial decisions as made by the Home Office would be close to current western European norms in terms of acceptances and rejections.
It's when cases get into the UK legal system that the wheels come off and we end up with 80% plus acceptance rates.
How would you propose to fix that?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 10, 2024 22:00:31 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 10, 2024 22:14:01 GMT
Pastor Rees may be well meaning, but like many lefties he is a naive useful idiot. The Home Secretary should get a grip of this nonsense, the 'pray to stay' scam is a threat to national security. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 11, 2024 16:47:43 GMT
Pastor Rees may be well meaning, but like many lefties he is a naive useful idiot. The Home Secretary should get a grip of this nonsense, the 'pray to stay' scam is a threat to national security. What makes the pastor a lefty. You seem you use that word for anyone who Supports immigration or Human Rights |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 11, 2024 18:13:47 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/08/asylum-seekers-converting-to-christianity-controversy/Interesting article Behind a paywall, but in short When the new vicar arrived at St Cuthberts, he was surprised to find a significant number of requests for baptisms All were islamics seeking conversion to christianity All were failed asylum seekers All were brought to his church by some moslem who had successfully claimed asylum Some were witnessed passing money to this moslem chap Then the letters started arriving from the immigration lawyers asking for a confirmation that they were Christians. And when he sent back simple replies stating they had been made members of the church, back came letters suggesting he include testimonials of their active evangelising …. Which he refused to say, because of course they were not. In the end he put a stop to it by requiring the person to come and engage in worship and church life for a period of six months or so and suddenly as fast as crowds had queued up … they stopped coming.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 11, 2024 20:42:46 GMT
Pastor Rees may be well meaning, but like many lefties he is a naive useful idiot. The Home Secretary should get a grip of this nonsense, the 'pray to stay' scam is a threat to national security. You seem you use that word for anyone who Supports immigration or Human Rights You don't find woke in the center right lefty old bean....What human rights FFS they are fucking criminals? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 11, 2024 22:04:04 GMT
Pastor Rees may be well meaning, but like many lefties he is a naive useful idiot. The Home Secretary should get a grip of this nonsense, the 'pray to stay' scam is a threat to national security. What makes the pastor a lefty. You seem you use that word for anyone who Supports immigration or Human Rights have you read the New Testament ? Where does it say ‘Blessed Are The Border Controllers, for they shall find gainful employment in my father’s house, keeping the scum who should be getting pitchforked by imps from invading our many mansions ?’ |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 11, 2024 22:23:17 GMT
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 12, 2024 1:21:04 GMT
What makes the lpastor a lefty. You seem you use that word for anyone who Supports immigration or Human Rights You don't find woke in the center right lefty old bean....What human rights FFS they are fucking criminals? what is woke? Center right would that be what the traditional tory on here call sunak a labourite. No you don't find woke on the right Tell you what I do find is a lot of Racism. |
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