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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2024 19:50:56 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Feb 1, 2024 20:41:45 GMT
"I think we all should be proud of the relatively strong multicultural, multi-ethnic society we've created in this country, much more successfully than most other European countries, and I think that is going to be threatened by the reactions to illegal immigration if it obviously starts to grow again and runs out of control."
So he has not changed then.
It is telling that he said 'we've created'. That implies some form of planning either in the creation of it as a policy or the creation of it as a means to meet circumstances. Either way there was never any vote that secured those policies for any party nor was there any plan of any sort put to the electorate. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 1, 2024 20:45:50 GMT
Oh come on Steve keeping the sheeple satisfied,are you having a laugh? Who proposed things shouldn’t change of course they do but the level of threat to the normal way of life in this country comes primarily from the Muslim religion. We once had immigration quotas based on race. Are you suggesting we have them again based on religion? If you believe that muslims are coming here in such numbers that they will soon swamp us, you are signing in to far right propaganda. Like all immigrants coming before them they are likely as the generations go by to become an integral part of the dominant culture, and more and more of them will become much more secular or keep their religious beliefs a purely personal affair as most Christians here today do. If this turns out not to be true we can worry about it later. Muslim numbers are never going to be anything more than a minority in the lives of everyone living today, for sure. In spite of far right lies to the contrary. One thing we can and should do and which I have long advocated for breaking down the barriers of religious divides and religious indoctrination, is to ban all faith based schools. No catholic schools. No Church of England schools. No Jewish schools, No Buddhist schools. No Hindu or Sikh schools. And of course no Muslim schools. Instead entirely secular schools which teach all their kids about all religions without proselytising on behalf of any one of them. Any fervent believer of any religion who cannot accept this should fuck off to a country that will accommodate them. Religious indoctrination from a young age is a divisive thing that can stop us all rubbing along peacefully, from forming part of the dominant culture and from espousing increasingly secular values. Perhaps if we enforced secular education for all children here, those muslims bringing their families here but still wishing to indoctrinate their kids would see us as a less attractive option. This would do far more to deter fanatical muslims from coming here with their kids than any stupid gimmick like the Rwanda policy. We effectively have employment quotas based on race and religion, why would it be wrong to do the same for any form of immigration? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 1, 2024 21:48:17 GMT
"I think we all should be proud of the relatively strong multicultural, multi-ethnic society we've created in this country, much more successfully than most other European countries, and I think that is going to be threatened by the reactions to illegal immigration if it obviously starts to grow again and runs out of control."
So he has not changed then.
It is telling that he said 'we've created'. That implies some form of planning either in the creation of it as a policy or the creation of it as a means to meet circumstances. Either way there was never any vote that secured those policies for any party nor was there any plan of any sort put to the electorate. It is clear to me the man has been paid and directed by unknown commercial sponsors. In short, he has never worked for the interests of the electorate. This is why he has lasted so long. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 3, 2024 8:03:43 GMT
Ken Clarke is a social engineering loon.
The fact that he was good at getting the deficit down to a surplus doesn't mean he was good at everything. What you're seeing here is Ken Clarke's Dunning Kruger syndrome come through.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 3, 2024 19:29:58 GMT
Yea of Course the Jewish Government has a great understanding Of Democracy? Simon Schama urges UK Jews to condemn Israel’s ‘horrifying’ shift to far right Historian and TV presenter is among those to speak out as protest grows over settler violence against Palestinians British Jews must speak out over the “complete disintegration of the political and social compact” that underpins the state of Israel, the historian Simon Schama has said. His call comes amid mounting disquiet among Jews in the UK and the US at the threats to Israeli democracy, violent attacks on Palestinians and a police crackdown on Israeli protesters. Next Sunday, Israelis living in the UK will take to the streets to voice their opposition to the actions of the most rightwing Israeli government in the country’s 75-year history. Protests are also planned by expat Israelis and Jews in other countries in solidarity with huge demonstrations in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem against the government. In a sign of the changing mood, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, considered to be a conservative and staunchly pro-Israel body, issued a rare statement condemning a call by a senior Israeli minister that a Palestinian town in the West Bank should be “wiped out” in response to the murder of two Israelis. We utterly condemn Bezalel Smotrich’s comments calling for the Israeli government to ‘erase’ a village which days ago was attacked by Israeli settlers. We hope that this and similar comments will be publicly repudiated by responsible voices in the governing coalition,” the board said. The board’s statement was a reflection that British Jews across the political spectrum are deeply troubled by “dangerous extremists” in the Israeli government, said one insider. This is of concern to Jewry the world over. It’s utterly horrifying. We should not be lily-livered about it Speaking to the Observer, Schama said that Israel was at risk of becoming a “nationalist theocracy” with the inclusion of ultra-religious, far-right parties in the coalition government headed by Benjamin Netanyahu. |
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