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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2024 9:15:53 GMT
It seems Canada isnt very impressed by your sovereignty. Or your idea of what a trade deal is.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 28, 2024 11:40:44 GMT
We have a trade deal with Canada.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2024 12:08:46 GMT
Evidently not the one you wanted.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 28, 2024 18:29:16 GMT
We stopped the negotiations on the changes - the decision was made on UK priorities, which makes a refreshing change from when trade deals were negotiated for us on the priorities of foreign countries.
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 28, 2024 18:54:33 GMT
We stopped the negotiations on the changes - the decision was made on UK priorities, which makes a refreshing change from when trade deals were negotiated for us on the priorities of foreign countries. Indeed though its concerning that its not really a UK priority but more of not ditching the EU's stance on beef hormones . Im not sure there is a case for banning hormones in cattle and was used by the EU as an excuse to protect French farmers . If we are doing the same to protect ours we will find the 'free trade' that was a feature campaign tool of Brexit will become another disappointment |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 28, 2024 21:48:49 GMT
We stopped the negotiations on the changes - the decision was made on UK priorities, which makes a refreshing change from when trade deals were negotiated for us on the priorities of foreign countries. Indeed though its concerning that its not really a UK priority but more of not ditching the EU's stance on beef hormones . Im not sure there is a case for banning hormones in cattle and was used by the EU as an excuse to protect French farmers . If we are doing the same to protect ours we will find the 'free trade' that was a feature campaign tool of Brexit will become another disappointment It's for health reasons.
It means the UK is not so much in the pockets of dodgy corporations as it is over that way, plus the US as well.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 28, 2024 22:23:07 GMT
Indeed though its concerning that its not really a UK priority but more of not ditching the EU's stance on beef hormones . Im not sure there is a case for banning hormones in cattle and was used by the EU as an excuse to protect French farmers . If we are doing the same to protect ours we will find the 'free trade' that was a feature campaign tool of Brexit will become another disappointment It's for health reasons.
It means the UK is not so much in the pockets of dodgy corporations as it is over that way, plus the US as well.
Well all you would end up with is the Canadian system where the consumer gets to choose - the housewife in the supermarket can pick up a tray of hormone beef or (for a bit extra) a tray of non-hormone beef. But apparently choice is not allowed. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 28, 2024 22:30:56 GMT
Indeed though its concerning that its not really a UK priority but more of not ditching the EU's stance on beef hormones . Im not sure there is a case for banning hormones in cattle and was used by the EU as an excuse to protect French farmers . If we are doing the same to protect ours we will find the 'free trade' that was a feature campaign tool of Brexit will become another disappointment It's for health reasons.
It means the UK is not so much in the pockets of dodgy corporations as it is over that way, plus the US as well.
The health issues are debatable , the hormones mean beef cattle produce leaner meat which surely make it an improvement on the beef we currently eat The corporations dodgy or otherwise we should be able to deal with as we do with any other . Though I haven't seen this mentioned as an issue . |
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Post by Steve on Jan 28, 2024 22:35:50 GMT
We have a trade deal with Canada. In part, some parts have already expired EG tariff free exports of cheese and they were one of our main export markets for same. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 28, 2024 23:00:09 GMT
It's for health reasons.
It means the UK is not so much in the pockets of dodgy corporations as it is over that way, plus the US as well.
Well all you would end up with is the Canadian system where the consumer gets to choose - the housewife in the supermarket can pick up a tray of hormone beef or (for a bit extra) a tray of non-hormone beef. But apparently choice is not allowed. I don't believe them. It will be in everything. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 28, 2024 23:03:10 GMT
It's for health reasons.
It means the UK is not so much in the pockets of dodgy corporations as it is over that way, plus the US as well.
The health issues are debatable , the hormones mean beef cattle produce leaner meat which surely make it an improvement on the beef we currently eat The corporations dodgy or otherwise we should be able to deal with as we do with any other . Though I haven't seen this mentioned as an issue . The EU's banned substances are generally brought about by peer-reviewed science. I see a pattern here where the US will sell food with additives with known health concerns whilst the EU bans them. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 29, 2024 6:47:46 GMT
The health issues are debatable , the hormones mean beef cattle produce leaner meat which surely make it an improvement on the beef we currently eat The corporations dodgy or otherwise we should be able to deal with as we do with any other . Though I haven't seen this mentioned as an issue . The EU's banned substances are generally brought about by peer-reviewed science. I see a pattern here where the US will sell food with additives with known health concerns whilst the EU bans them. The argument is that it's not peer-reviewed science . Nobody either here in Europe or the USA/Canada is going to knowingly put dangerous foods on the market . The difference is that in North America they look at the probability or likelihood of bad things occurring now or in the future .In Europe they base their reviews on the possibilities . Lobbying also plays a big part in food regulation (I think this is where 'dodgy' corporations come in ) In North America companies and consumers want a longer shelf life of produce where as in Europe its all about protecting the single market |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 29, 2024 7:18:15 GMT
The health issues are debatable , the hormones mean beef cattle produce leaner meat which surely make it an improvement on the beef we currently eat The corporations dodgy or otherwise we should be able to deal with as we do with any other . Though I haven't seen this mentioned as an issue . The EU's banned substances are generally brought about by peer-reviewed science. I see a pattern here where the US will sell food with additives with known health concerns whilst the EU bans them. There's actually no evidence about the EU's claims on health grounds, which pisses the rest of the world off. It's all done under protectionism. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 29, 2024 8:09:14 GMT
The health issues are debatable , the hormones mean beef cattle produce leaner meat which surely make it an improvement on the beef we currently eat The corporations dodgy or otherwise we should be able to deal with as we do with any other . Though I haven't seen this mentioned as an issue . The EU's banned substances are generally brought about by peer-reviewed science. I see a pattern here where the US will sell food with additives with known health concerns whilst the EU bans them. Well the EU ban Chlorinated Chicken yet mandates Chlorine in Drinking Water.. ..go figure. |
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Post by Steve on Jan 30, 2024 0:11:47 GMT
It's not hard to figure it out IF only you listen to the rationale. But you won't so can't be arsed
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