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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 27, 2024 9:22:43 GMT
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In the wake of the Oct 7th attacks on Israel by Hamas the German President has called for German muslims to stand up and pledge loyalty: " Don't let yourselves be instrumentalized by Hamas! Speak up for yourselves! Say no to terror!" Germany is experiencing the same problems as we are with pro-Palestianism which has morphed into outright anti-Semitism and their President has chosen to call on the muslims to reject anti-Semitism. Good for him. It's a pity Sunak is so quiet on the subject. Mishal Hussein was getting quite areated about this on "Today" this morning. She doesn't think it's right that muslims should be called on to reject anti-Semitism when "it's nothing to do with muslims". Of course nobody dared to contradict her, but in my experience muslims are highly correlated with anti-Semitic views and I'd like Sunak to stand up and call for a similar loyalty pledge in the case of British muslims. It's about time that people like Mishal Hussein - who, like it or not, is a spokesperson for muslims, recognised the fact that anti-Semitism is promoted by our muslim communities. She can't just deny that it's anything to do with her religion.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 9:26:13 GMT
Any extremists would just use Taqiya and falsely pledge loyalty to eliminate suspicion.
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 27, 2024 9:35:13 GMT
Fine. But we don't even hear "false words of reassurance" from the muslim community. Just the usual "Nothing to do with us guv".
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Post by Orac on Jan 27, 2024 9:41:53 GMT
Fine. But we don't even hear "false words of reassurance" from the muslim community. Just the usual "Nothing to do with us guv". They don't even attempt to reassure their target unless they are forced to by circumstances. It's part of the intimidation |
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Post by dappy on Jan 27, 2024 9:59:51 GMT
My understanding is that the Mind Zone is intended to be factually accurate yet the title of this thread is complete nonsense.
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Post by borchester on Jan 27, 2024 10:00:21 GMT
I am English and therefore one of God's Chosen People, but if asked for a loyalty pledge I would tell the asker to fuck off
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Post by see2 on Jan 27, 2024 13:44:07 GMT
I am English and therefore one of God's Chosen People, but if asked for a loyalty pledge I would tell the asker to fuck off If there is a Muslim pro-Hamas problem in the UK, the government seems to be following a history of not wanting to be straight about Muslim concerns. But given the 'easy ride' with the majority of British Muslims, I can't see an awful lot of room for complaint. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 14:28:54 GMT
I am English and therefore one of God's Chosen People, but if asked for a loyalty pledge I would tell the asker to fuck off like it borkie. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 27, 2024 16:56:35 GMT
Any extremists would just use Taqiya and falsely pledge loyalty to eliminate suspicion. Yes, as I understand it, anything is acceptable just as long as you keep Islam in your heart, even eating Pork. |
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Post by dodgydave on Jan 28, 2024 1:37:33 GMT
It does lead to a wider conversation on identity.
The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi.
The growing Muslims population is going to bring back problems of the past, where large numbers of people identify by religion, not by nationality.
Personally, I think we need to bring back national service pronto, and use that and other methods to try to build back up a sense of national identity.
If we do nothing, we will continue to divide ourselves, and become weaker and weaker... and history has shown what happens then... the once great civilisation collapses and is conquered.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 28, 2024 2:53:05 GMT
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In the wake of the Oct 7th attacks on Israel by Hamas the German President has called for German muslims to stand up and pledge loyalty: " Don't let yourselves be instrumentalized by Hamas! Speak up for yourselves! Say no to terror!" Germany is experiencing the same problems as we are with pro-Palestianism which has morphed into outright anti-Semitism and their President has chosen to call on the muslims to reject anti-Semitism. Good for him. It's a pity Sunak is so quiet on the subject. Mishal Hussein was getting quite areated about this on "Today" this morning. She doesn't think it's right that muslims should be called on to reject anti-Semitism when "it's nothing to do with muslims". Of course nobody dared to contradict her, but in my experience muslims are highly correlated with anti-Semitic views and I'd like Sunak to stand up and call for a similar loyalty pledge in the case of British muslims. It's about time that people like Mishal Hussein - who, like it or not, is a spokesperson for muslims, recognised the fact that anti-Semitism is promoted by our muslim communities. She can't just deny that it's anything to do with her religion. Why on earth is this in mind zone? steppenwolf, get a grip. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 28, 2024 10:41:41 GMT
It does lead to a wider conversation on identity. The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi.The growing Muslims population is going to bring back problems of the past, where large numbers of people identify by religion, not by nationality. Personally, I think we need to bring back national service pronto, and use that and other methods to try to build back up a sense of national identity. If we do nothing, we will continue to divide ourselves, and become weaker and weaker... and history has shown what happens then... the once great civilisation collapses and is conquered. The gist of the first comment would have been loved by the likes of Goebbels, a shameful comment. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 28, 2024 10:48:35 GMT
It does lead to a wider conversation on identity. The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi.The growing Muslims population is going to bring back problems of the past, where large numbers of people identify by religion, not by nationality. Personally, I think we need to bring back national service pronto, and use that and other methods to try to build back up a sense of national identity. If we do nothing, we will continue to divide ourselves, and become weaker and weaker... and history has shown what happens then... the once great civilisation collapses and is conquered. The gist of the first comment would have been loved by the likes of Goebbels, a shameful comment. everyone knows the Labour Party hates England , scotland and mocks Wales. Emily thorn berry white English van man? George foulkes , the alcoholic labour lord and his many anti Scottish comments ? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 28, 2024 10:57:38 GMT
The gist of the first comment would have been loved by the likes of Goebbels, a shameful comment. everyone knows the Labour Party hates England , scotland and mocks Wales. Emily thorn berry white English van man? George foulkes , the alcoholic labour lord and his many anti Scottish comments ? His comment was nasty and deserved to be exposed as such, and your comment is just misguided OTT opinion. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 28, 2024 11:00:24 GMT
everyone knows the Labour Party hates England , scotland and mocks Wales. Emily thorn berry white English van man? George foulkes , the alcoholic labour lord and his many anti Scottish comments ? His comment was nasty and deserved to be exposed as such, and your comment is just misguided OTT opinion. dont shoot the messenger. Im not responsible for the nasty anti English , anti Scottish and welsh comments by the likes of foulkes thorn berry and Robertson past and present. Labour hate the nations of the uk , as has been claimed above. |
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