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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 31, 2024 6:58:36 GMT
To get back to the OP, is it time for our politicians to call for our muslim communities (or "community leaders" as they say) to call for muslims to reject anti-semitism and terrorism - as the German president as has done?
The likes of Mishal Hussein will say that muslims are not terrorists and not anti-semitic - of course - but that's a debate that should be had. Muslims need to begin accepting the facts before they can clean up their act.
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Post by see2 on Jan 31, 2024 10:29:14 GMT
To get back to the OP, is it time for our politicians to call for our muslim communities (or "community leaders" as they say) to call for muslims to reject anti-semitism and terrorism - as the German president as has done? The likes of Mishal Hussein will say that muslims are not terrorists and not anti-semitic - of course - but that's a debate that should be had. Muslims need to begin accepting the facts before they can clean up their act. The present position where it appears to be the case that if you attack one Muslim you are deemed to have attacked all of Islam in some way, will be a very hard hill to climb. If the majority of Muslims ever begin to understand how their religion mimics psychological affirmations, they may begin to understand how it is that their learnt feelings can overly influence and sometimes even overcontrol any logical thoughts. Any belief system can be instilled into the emotional system from early on in life, so that the emotional ownership of it feels perfectly normal to the owner. The Islamic belief is reaffirmed every day making it ever more embedded into the ownership of it by its followers. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 31, 2024 10:46:26 GMT
You originally posted "The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi." Do you actually read what people write, because quite often your replies are just confusing because it is like you misunderstand literally everything. It is like you read everything with a negative filter on lol. 1) Pushing self-hate of history - teaching our kids that they should be ashamed of what they have now because it is of a result of colonialism and slavery... and pushing the disgusting "white privilege" narrative. 2) Peddling victimhood - telling our kids that they are disadvantaged because of their age / race / sex / sexuality / religion / social class. We have told one in nine of children that they have a disability ffs. We have gone from telling children they can achieve anything if they work hard... to making them field the system is stacked against them... it is not healthy. 3) I've already addressed how people seek to label people Nazis in order to cancel their arguments.... and linked how the current crop of Labour MPs resort to this low-brow tactic. You originally posted " The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi." Obviously you can't see just how pathetically stupid your post was, it even included 'middle' people like yourself. Your insistence upon adding squirmingly repeating posts doesn't change the reality. But live with your opinions if you wish, I don't care. |
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Post by dodgydave on Feb 1, 2024 2:39:17 GMT
Do you actually read what people write, because quite often your replies are just confusing because it is like you misunderstand literally everything. It is like you read everything with a negative filter on lol. 1) Pushing self-hate of history - teaching our kids that they should be ashamed of what they have now because it is of a result of colonialism and slavery... and pushing the disgusting "white privilege" narrative. 2) Peddling victimhood - telling our kids that they are disadvantaged because of their age / race / sex / sexuality / religion / social class. We have told one in nine of children that they have a disability ffs. We have gone from telling children they can achieve anything if they work hard... to making them field the system is stacked against them... it is not healthy. 3) I've already addressed how people seek to label people Nazis in order to cancel their arguments.... and linked how the current crop of Labour MPs resort to this low-brow tactic. You originally posted " The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi." Obviously you can't see just how pathetically stupid your post was, it even included 'middle' people like yourself. Your insistence upon adding squirmingly repeating posts doesn't change the reality. But live with your opinions if you wish, I don't care. As expected, you offer zero response to what it actually written and resort to your normal MO of name calling / labelling lol. Yes mate, the majority of people vote left / middle parties... and yes they are the ones pushing this crap... so you are wrong again. Yes I'm a Social Democrat at heart, but as I have said repeatedly, I haven't voted since Blair because I will not support the crap that Labour is peddling. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 1, 2024 8:53:46 GMT
You originally posted " The majority left/middle is pushing self-hate of our history, and peddling victimhood, whilst saying pride in ones nation makes you a Nazi." Obviously you can't see just how pathetically stupid your post was, it even included 'middle' people like yourself. Your insistence upon adding squirmingly repeating posts doesn't change the reality. But live with your opinions if you wish, I don't care. As expected, you offer zero response to what it actually written and resort to your normal MO of name calling / labelling lol. Yes mate, the majority of people vote left / middle parties... and yes they are the ones pushing this crap... so you are wrong again. Yes I'm a Social Democrat at heart, but as I have said repeatedly, I haven't voted since Blair because I will not support the crap that Labour is peddling. There is no arguing against fixed biased and outlandish opinions. IMO your posts show that you are very good at convincing yourself you are right, so their is no point in continuing this exchange. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 1, 2024 21:14:35 GMT
everyone knows the Labour Party hates England , scotland and mocks Wales. Emily thorn berry white English van man? George foulkes , the alcoholic labour lord and his many anti Scottish comments ? His comment was nasty and deserved to be exposed as such, and your comment is just misguided OTT opinion. But the left leaning are indeed as described. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 2, 2024 8:53:35 GMT
Personally, I think we need to bring back national service pronto, and use that and other methods to try to build back up a sense of national identity. This would have worked fifty years ago when were were still a relatively homogeneous population with a (more or less) single political identify. Attempting this now would just be providing training and expertise to future Muslim militia Well on the one hand yes, but on the other hand no Our well known corrupt shithead Mohammed "Call Me Oscar" Asghar, the man whose daughter is now our Tory Regional AM becuase he demanded she and her mother be given jobs at public expense as part of a bribe to remain a Welsh Nationalist, the refusal of which led him to switch to the Tory party who DID bribe him in that way, and who had specifically arranged to be in the car BEHIND the one Benazir Bhutto died in di=uring the 2007 attack, rather than with her as he had been before, WAS a frequent visitor to dodgy bits of Pakistan ........ so was clearly able to get that sort of training had he wished, as has been proven for others of his ethnicity in political office in the UK. I see conscripting the white anglo saxon component of our population along with the less indigenous as a levelling the playing field. On the down side, it will i suppose reveal to them the lethal errors in one of THEIR training manuals. Having downloaded a copy of a certain magazine the week before it was declared more illegal than child and goat porn, i really would not, as a trained molucular biologist familiar with certain high energy exothermic chemical reactions, follow the instructions in that magazine !!! |
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