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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:12:04 GMT
You do know that Meir the Far Right supporter killed Mrs COX for her Political Views. And he didn't have a Serious Mental health issues where he's a threat to him Selve or other people. That's the Difference. Jekyll and Hyde' assassin was a loner who scoured himself with Brillo pads because of cleanliness obsession and spent his life on mental health drugs When Mair murdered Jo Cox he was on medication for mental health problems, he was also a patient of a day centre for adults with mental illness. Tell me Dr Charlie, how did you arrive at the conclusion that he did not in fact have mental health issues? I didn't arrive at the fact he didn't have mental health problem . I even highlighted the fact he did. What I said was he didn't have one where he was a danger to him Self or others. Like. People who are psycho like the man in this Case. Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior. I know a woman who been in Mental institution 12 times in the last 15yrs Sometimes upto a year. Because she doesn't take her medication. She on what they call a Community care order. Because she Savagely knifed someone and left them for dead . She wasn't known to the Mental health services before that point. And she was Arrested she was declared Criminaly insain by police psychologes. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 27, 2024 11:19:28 GMT
When Mair murdered Jo Cox he was on medication for mental health problems, he was also a patient of a day centre for adults with mental illness. Tell me Dr Charlie, how did you arrive at the conclusion that he did not in fact have mental health issues? I didn't arrive at the fact he didn't have mental health problem . I even highlighted the fact he did. What I said was he didn't have one where he was a danger to him Self or others. Like. People who are psycho like the man in this Case. Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior. I know a woman who been in Mental institution 12 times in the last 15yrs Sometimes upto a year. Because she doesn't take her medication. She on what they call a Community care order. Because she Savagely knifed someone and left them for dead . She wasn't known to the Mental health services before that point. And she was Arrested she was declared Criminaly insain by police psychologes. Charlie old chap, are you pulling on a Jamaican Woodbine?... |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:20:49 GMT
You do know that Meir the Far Right supporter killed Mrs COX for her Political Views. And he didn't have a Serious Mental health issues where he's a threat to him Selve or other people. That's the Difference. Jekyll and Hyde' assassin was a loner who scoured himself with Brillo pads because of cleanliness obsession and spent his life on mental health drugs I notice you are always keen highlighting the murder of Mrs COX, but you always fail to mention the murder of David Amess who was murdered by a 'Islamic state sympathiser Ali Harbi Ali, of course the murder of a Tory MP wont bother you, or do you think the murder of a Tory MP is justifiable, or wont your double standard hypocrisy allow you to feel the same outrage for the murder of David Amess? No I don't support the Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. It wasn't me who brought Mair into the Conversation. It was amother right winger Redreckham.talk about double standard Hypocrisy lol. Just for the record did the killer of Amess have serious Mental health issues What presented him has Danger to himself or others ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:26:48 GMT
I didn't arrive at the fact he didn't have mental health problem . I even highlighted the fact he did. What I said was he didn't have one where he was a danger to him Self or others. Like. People who are psycho like the man in this Case. Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior. I know a woman who been in Mental institution 12 times in the last 15yrs Sometimes upto a year. Because she doesn't take her medication. She on what they call a Community care order. Because she Savagely knifed someone and left them for dead . She wasn't known to the Mental health services before that point. And she was Arrested she was declared Criminaly insain by police psychologes. Charlie old chap, are you pulling on a Jamaican Woodbine?... Haha Red just pointing out the fact there plenty of people with mental illness who don't go and kill someone in fact there 1 in 4 said to have mental health problems. In England. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 11:29:43 GMT
I notice you are always keen highlighting the murder of Mrs COX, but you always fail to mention the murder of David Amess who was murdered by a 'Islamic state sympathiser Ali Harbi Ali, of course the murder of a Tory MP wont bother you, or do you think the murder of a Tory MP is justifiable, or wont your double standard hypocrisy allow you to feel the same outrage for the murder of David Amess? No I don't support the Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. It wasn't me who brought Mair into the Conversation. It was amother right winger Redreckham.talk about double standard Hypocrisy lol.
Just for the record did the killer of Amess have serious Mental health issues What presented him has Danger to himself or others ? I think it's safe to say that any one who randomly butchers another person has 'Mental health issues' .... duh. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:33:36 GMT
No I don't support the Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. It wasn't me who brought Mair into the Conversation. It was amother right winger Redreckham.talk about double standard Hypocrisy lol.
Just for the record did the killer of Amess have serious Mental health issues What presented him has Danger to himself or others ? I think it's safe to say that any one who randomly butchers another person has 'Mental health issues' .... duh. So you think the Same about Terrorist,Cretain Murderers;Rapist ;and child Groomers? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 11:38:57 GMT
I think it's safe to say that any one who randomly butchers another person has 'Mental health issues' .... duh. So you think the Same about Terrorist,Cretain Murderers;Rapist ;and child Groomers? Stop moving the goal posts because you've been caught out for your usual double standard low moral hypocrisy, you still can't bring yourself to be outraged at the murder of Daivd Amess, you can't even bring yourself to condemn it because he was a Tory, I'm sticking to the murder of 'MPs', now what was asked of you, are you outraged about the murder of Amess like you are about COX, simple question? |
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Post by Handyman on Jan 27, 2024 11:40:43 GMT
Whilst I understand the relatives of those killed lashing out in order to find who was at fault for this sad episode we expect too much of a service stretched to the limit,black white or whatever if someone is defined as mentally ill they are suffering as much as anyone with a physical illness,it’s all too easy to blame the cops for all societies ills and I don’t really want to repeat why we are in the position we are now other than mental health is the Cinderella service nothing changes and less than a year ago this thread looked at the police’s frustrations linkThe police are under the spotlight for apparently ignoring or forgetting to enforce an arrest warrant for Calocane for seriously assaulting a police officer nine months previously. Calocane has a more impressive rap sheet than Saint George Floyd. I mean, what the hell are the police playing at? Perhaps they were busy working on their pronouns, perish the thought they might offend someone. According to the media it is the NHS that is under scrutiny as he was Sectioned 4 times and they allowed him back into the Community on each occasion and they knew how dangerous he was. Even if the Police had arrested him on that warrant the Court may well have bailed him for mental reports to see if he was fit to stand trial or not , or may have committed him to a hospital again |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:46:19 GMT
A man who fatally stabbed MP Sir David Amess at his constituency surgery has been found guilty of murder.
Ali Harbi Ali, 26, was convicted by a jury at the Central Criminal Court today of repeatedly stabbing Sir David on 15 October 2021, and of a second offence of preparing acts of terrorism.
He had used a false address to deceive the MP’s staff that he lived in the local area and made the journey from London to Leigh-On-Sea armed with the large kitchen knife that was used in the attack.
Nick Price, Head of the CPS Counter Terrorism Division said: “Sir David’s murder was a terrible attack on an MP as he went about his work. But it was also an attack on our democracy, it was an attack on all of us, an attack on our way of life.
“This was a horrific act of terrorism motivated by religious and ideological beliefs. Ali chose to commit this abhorrent crime for his own selfish and hateful reasons.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:49:01 GMT
So you think the Same about Terrorist,Cretain Murderers;Rapist ;and child Groomers? Stop moving the goal posts because you've been caught out for your usual double standard low moral hypocrisy, you still can't bring yourself to be outraged at the murder of Daivd Amess, you can't even bring yourself to condemn it because he was a Tory, I'm sticking to the murder of 'MPs', now what was asked of you, are you outraged about the murder of Amess like you are about COX, simple question? Like I said I don't Support Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. Don't you.think thats condemnation. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 11:51:43 GMT
Stop moving the goal posts because you've been caught out for your usual double standard low moral hypocrisy, you still can't bring yourself to be outraged at the murder of Daivd Amess, you can't even bring yourself to condemn it because he was a Tory, I'm sticking to the murder of 'MPs', now what was asked of you, are you outraged about the murder of Amess like you are about COX, simple question? Like I said I don't Support Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. Don't you.think thats condemnation. Well I think that's as close as we're going to get from you in condemning the murder of David Amess, I think we all get the picture now. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:55:28 GMT
The police are under the spotlight for apparently ignoring or forgetting to enforce an arrest warrant for Calocane for seriously assaulting a police officer nine months previously. Calocane has a more impressive rap sheet than Saint George Floyd. I mean, what the hell are the police playing at? Perhaps they were busy working on their pronouns, perish the thought they might offend someone. According to the media it is the NHS that is under scrutiny as he was Sectioned 4 times and they allowed him back into the Community on each occasion and they knew how dangerous he was. Even if the Police had arrested him on that warrant the Court may well have bailed him for mental reports to see if he was fit to stand trial or not , or may have committed him to a hospital again Yes that is true .But the Mental Health Services can send someone to Mental institutions without a Court appearance if under the Community care programme. If This Murderer was released from Hospital Without A CTO. That was the failing of the local health Authorities. |
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Post by sheepy on Jan 27, 2024 11:55:50 GMT
Personally, I reckon care in the community was a mass money saving exercise that has obviously cost people's lives, while the old and infirm were privatised. I don't know if it still stands, I could be wrong, that you can section someone for 28 days but after that it is very difficult to keep them locked up.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 11:57:14 GMT
Like I said I don't Support Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. Don't you.think thats condemnation. Well I think that's as close as we're going to get from you in condemning the murder of David Amess, I think we all get the picture now. What picture is that in your little Mind. It's Clear Condemnation |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 12:00:48 GMT
Well I think that's as close as we're going to get from you in condemning the murder of David Amess, I think we all get the picture now. It's Clear Condemnation I'll leave that to your vivid imagination. |
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