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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 12:02:43 GMT
Personally, I reckon care in the community was a mass money saving exercise that has obviously cost people's lives, while the old and infirm were privatised. I don't know if it still stands, I could be wrong, that you can section someone for 28 days but after that it is very difficult to keep them locked up. Your right it is hard to keep them locked up .But if the Doctors in the Mental health Services. See that person has a risk. To.other people they can keep. Them In longer. Has i stated about a woman I know being Sectioned for 12months. It is Definitely a Failier by the local Health Authorities. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 12:09:21 GMT
What picture is that in your little Mind.It's Clear Condemnation I'll leave that to your vivid imagination. So you think someone who says they don't Support Terrorism isn't Condemning Terrorism. Like I said you have No Morality Stance what so ever |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 12:20:30 GMT
I'll leave that to your vivid imagination. So you think someone who says they don't Support Terrorism isn't Condemning Terrorism. Like I said you have No Morality Stance what so ever The day you can call anyone out for the moral high ground, is the day this country is well and truly finished ...Finito .. the end of. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 12:33:54 GMT
So you think someone who says they don't Support Terrorism isn't Condemning Terrorism. Like I said you have No Morality Stance what so ever The day you can call anyone out for the moral high ground, is the day this country is well and truly finished ...Finito .. the end of. OK don't want to take this conversation any further. It's of track to the Thread But one thing you can't call me I's a person who. Lack Morality when I posted this forum plenty of time in Support. Of the Most Vulnerable in Society. Like I said I've given over 18yrs of time and money supporting a homeless Charity in Greater Manchester. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 12:48:50 GMT
We know it was Thatcher's idea.
Like anyone she made mistakes.
This bastard should have been detained a long time ago and now three innocent people are dead.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 13:30:12 GMT
We know it was Thatcher's idea. Like anyone she made mistakes. This bastard should have been detained a long time ago and now three innocent people are dead. Yes he should of Vinny it was down to. The local Health authority . I'm sure has always when something tragic happens they say there going to Make it better so it doesn't happen again but it does time after time again. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 27, 2024 13:34:48 GMT
We know it was Thatcher's idea. Like anyone she made mistakes. This bastard should have been detained a long time ago and now three innocent people are dead. I don't actually think she Made Mistakes with the Community Mental health programme. But what she did do was not offer professional services to look after them In Community because of the lack of CPNs and lack of Funding has always. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 15:30:38 GMT
Course she made mistakes.
It's self evident, people have been killed.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 15:38:39 GMT
We know it was Thatcher's idea. Like anyone she made mistakes. This bastard should have been detained a long time ago and now three innocent people are dead. Even if it was Thatcher's idea, that was 1990 that was 34 years ago, we've had a Labour and Tory governments since then, and none of them have changed her policies, it's jaw dropping that people are trying to blame a policy made by a PM 34 years ago, talk about clutching at straws ... LOL
I notice the GP crisis of today, and the illegal war in Iraqi caused by Tony Blair that still impacts the UK to this very day is swept under the carpet, the usual double standard hypocrisy of the lefties at play
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 15:43:02 GMT
Every government that has presided over an environment in which violent nutters were allowed on the streets to kill, is equally to blame.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2024 15:47:41 GMT
Every government that has presided over an environment in which violent nutters were allowed on the streets to kill, is equally to blame. The problem when Thatcher made her policies it didn't cater for foreign violent nutters, we have no idea how many violent nutters are jumping off these dinghies, so how can you make provisions for them if we don't even know who they are or where they are from.
If there is any reason to stop this illegal boat people fiasco the mental health act should be one of them, we've got enough of our own homegrown violent nutters without importing more foreign ones.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2024 15:51:54 GMT
True.
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Post by Handyman on Jan 27, 2024 16:30:50 GMT
The three families of the the three people killed are appealing against the sentence they think it is not severe enough , they wanted him to stand trial for murder , not manslaughter.
If their appeal against sentence is successful the Court could impose
" If a person is found guilty of a crime that can be punishable with a prison sentence, the courts can send them to a hospital instead. The judge can do this under section 37 of the Mental Health Act.
If the judge believes the person is a risk to the public, they can add a restriction to the hospital order under section 41 of the same act.
The restriction means that the person subject to the order can only be discharged from hospital if the justice secretary agrees."
If that Sec 41 is imposed he may be set free again
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 27, 2024 19:40:00 GMT
I notice you are always keen highlighting the murder of Mrs COX, but you always fail to mention the murder of David Amess who was murdered by a 'Islamic state sympathiser Ali Harbi Ali, of course the murder of a Tory MP wont bother you, or do you think the murder of a Tory MP is justifiable, or wont your double standard hypocrisy allow you to feel the same outrage for the murder of David Amess? No I don't support the Islamic Terrorism or any Terrorism. It wasn't me who brought Mair into the Conversation. It was amother right winger Redreckham.talk about double standard Hypocrisy lol. Just for the record did the killer of Amess have serious Mental health issues What presented him has Danger to himself or others ? Well the CPS clearly didn't think so www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/update-man-who-fatally-stabbed-mp-sir-david-amess-sentenced-whole-life-tariffBut that’s because the islamic shithead doong the killing on this occasion murdered an MP I seem to remember every other abuser of the Allah U Akbar chant is routinely described by plod as having such issues. |
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 27, 2024 20:02:30 GMT
Every government that has presided over an environment in which violent nutters were allowed on the streets to kill, is equally to blame. The problem when Thatcher made her policies it didn't cater for foreign violent nutters, we have no idea how many violent nutters are jumping off these dinghies, so how can you make provisions for them if we don't even know who they are or where they are from.
If there is any reason to stop this illegal boat people fiasco the mental health act should be one of them, we've got enough of our own homegrown violent nutters without importing more foreign ones.
Indeed FS its worth remembering that the vast majority of those released into the community at the start of care in the community were harmless souls . The violent ones remained detained in various establishments . What we have now ,the violent drug fuelled killers are in the main imported from elsewhere . |
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