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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 19:21:25 GMT
Yes but what specific policies make them far right, does anyone know? Majoritarian populism? Anti-immigrant? German nationalism? National conservatism?
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Post by sandypine on Jan 24, 2024 19:24:00 GMT
Yes but what specific policies make them far right, does anyone know? Majoritarian populism? That is not a policy that is a conclusion on policies. Does anyone know what makes them far right?
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 19:28:47 GMT
That is not a policy that is a conclusion on policies. Does anyone know what makes them far right? Probably, this sort of thing: 'In January 2022, party leader Jörg Meuthen resigned his party chairmanship with immediate effect and left the AfD, as he came to acknowledge that the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits and in large parts was no longer based on the liberal democratic basic order'.
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Post by sandypine on Jan 24, 2024 19:52:38 GMT
That is not a policy that is a conclusion on policies. Does anyone know what makes them far right? Probably, this sort of thing: 'In January 2022, party leader Jörg Meuthen resigned his party chairmanship with immediate effect and left the AfD, as he came to acknowledge that the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits and in large parts was no longer based on the liberal democratic basic order'. Possibly influenced by Weidel said Meuthen's resignation may have been linked to plans to lift his immunity as an MEP over a scandal involving illegal party donations. Meuthen said his decision to leave was not related to the lifting of immunity. He had earlier said a potential probe would be a chance to clear his name. I am not sure what a liberal democrat basic order is, do you? EDIT , Anything in the policies that makes them far right?
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 19:53:45 GMT
Probably, this sort of thing: 'In January 2022, party leader Jörg Meuthen resigned his party chairmanship with immediate effect and left the AfD, as he came to acknowledge that the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits and in large parts was no longer based on the liberal democratic basic order'. I am not sure what a liberal democrat basic order is, do you? The word 'totalitarian' probably provides a clue.
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Post by sandypine on Jan 24, 2024 19:55:22 GMT
I am not sure what a liberal democrat basic order is, do you? The word 'totalitarian' probably provides a clue. It may do but what are the totalitarian traits he refers to and which policies are the ones that put that order at risk?
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 19:57:15 GMT
The word 'totalitarian' probably provides a clue. It may do but what are the totalitarian traits he refers to and which policies are the ones that put that order at risk? Dunno. But as the former party chairman, I should think he'd be in a position to know.
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Post by sandypine on Jan 24, 2024 20:04:51 GMT
It may do but what are the totalitarian traits he refers to and which policies are the ones that put that order at risk? Dunno. But as the former party chairman, I should think he'd be in a position to know. He would be in a position to accuse, that does not make it true, what makes it true is revealing the 'traits' that make the totalitarian claim feasible. In terms of totalitarian traits I would think that many in the existing parliament have had, and have demonstrated, those 'traits' certainly in 2020.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 24, 2024 20:11:42 GMT
It may do but what are the totalitarian traits he refers to and which policies are the ones that put that order at risk? Dunno. But as the former party chairman, I should think he'd be in a position to know. "Dunno" So, you just copy the opinion of what is claimed about the AfD and have no insight into their policies. Then you take a great leap to torture, murder and rape and run with these as though they are AfD policy. It seems, all you can do is try and subvert democracy with misinformation in order to pull the AfD like you tried with Brexit. You people will never learn.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 20:12:01 GMT
Dunno. But as the former party chairman, I should think he'd be in a position to know. He would be in a position to accuse, that does not make it true, what makes it true is revealing the 'traits' that make the totalitarian claim feasible. In terms of totalitarian traits I would think that many in the existing parliament have had, and have demonstrated, those 'traits' certainly in 2020. Everyone from The Daily Mail to their own former leader says they are far-right. You disagree. That's okay.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 20:12:26 GMT
Dunno. But as the former party chairman, I should think he'd be in a position to know. "Dunno" So, you just copy the opinion of what is claimed about the AfD and have no insight into their policies. Then you take a great leap to torture, murder and rape and run with these as though they are AfD policy. It seems, all you can do is try and subvert democracy with misinformation in order to pull the AfD like you did Brexit. True dat.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 24, 2024 20:13:37 GMT
"Dunno" So, you just copy the opinion of what is claimed about the AfD and have no insight into their policies. Then you take a great leap to torture, murder and rape and run with these as though they are AfD policy. It seems, all you can do is try and subvert democracy with misinformation in order to pull the AfD like you did Brexit. True dat. At least you admit your anti-democratic 'traits'. My work here is done, thank you.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 20:14:51 GMT
At least you admit your anti-democratic 'traits'. My work here is done, thank you. And very good work it was, Bubs. My compliments.
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Post by sandypine on Jan 24, 2024 20:16:53 GMT
He would be in a position to accuse, that does not make it true, what makes it true is revealing the 'traits' that make the totalitarian claim feasible. In terms of totalitarian traits I would think that many in the existing parliament have had, and have demonstrated, those 'traits' certainly in 2020. Everyone from The Daily Mail to their own former leader says they are far-right. You disagree. That's okay. I did not say I disagreed, I asked what was it that made them far right. It is widely touted that they are so surely someone knows. You just seem to be repeating what you hear in the press and we know the press are not to be fully trusted to form an opinion for one.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 24, 2024 20:20:35 GMT
Everyone from The Daily Mail to their own former leader says they are far-right. You disagree. That's okay. I did not say I disagreed, I asked what was it that made them far right. It is widely touted that they are so surely someone knows. You just seem to be repeating what you hear in the press and we know the press are not to be fully trusted to form an opinion for one. So, you want someone in the AfD to answer your question? Maybe, a member of the teams of German policemen and women who have described them as far-right will come on to answer your question. It will have to be one of those, if you're not prepared to accept newspaper accounts.
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