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Post by morayloon on Jan 21, 2024 13:29:52 GMT
The Welsh Government commissioned an Independent review on the the constitutional future of the country. The commission found that Independence was a viable option www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67949443Cue Brit Nat fury!!! |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 23, 2024 12:50:34 GMT
The Welsh Government commissioned an Independent review on the the constitutional future of the country. The commission found that Independence was a viable option www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67949443Cue Brit Nat fury!!! I can’t wait. I shall immediately launch a shooting war to reinstate the descendants of the last king of wales to their rightful place. It will be fun |
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2024 16:30:55 GMT
The Welsh Government commissioned an Independent review on the the constitutional future of the country. The commission found that Independence was a viable option www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67949443Cue Brit Nat fury!!! I can’t wait. I shall immediately launch a shooting war to reinstate the descendants of the last king of wales to their rightful place. It will be fun I follow yes Cymru John , and I see like elsewhere I the uk , the conversation of the break up of the disunited kingdom is in full flow. Welsh indy sitting at around 30 od % now ? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 23, 2024 16:35:50 GMT
I wouldn’t be quite so hasty to belueve a word they say
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2024 17:23:39 GMT
I wouldn’t be quite so hasty to belueve a word they say I dont. Redfield and wilton had polls at the end of last year with support for welsh independence sitting at 35% . From memory others pollsters had it as high as 38%. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 18:13:33 GMT
What's a Brit Nat anyway? I know there are British patriots who respect all corners of these isles and aren't too keen on being ruled from Brussels. Seriously, dressing up in tartan and grunting is cheap materialism that attempts to offset all of the built up hate and brainwashing a minority are into in Scotland. Why do you think Marxists are into it?
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 23, 2024 23:32:11 GMT
What's a Brit Nat anyway? I know there are British patriots who respect all corners of these isles and aren't too keen on being ruled from Brussels. Seriously, dressing up in tartan and grunting is cheap materialism that attempts to offset all of the built up hate and brainwashing a minority are into in Scotland. Why do you think Marxists are into it? the phrase in this context means people who share my opinion that blair's devolution was a cheap stunt to achieve the total destruction of the identity of the united kingdom as a sovereign state, and to instigate unending rule by the left over too many aspects of life in the corners of the former united kingdom formerly governed centrally by one body of elected representatives, using the fallacy that this provides the government the people want whereas all it really does is give both westminster and the said remote shit pits a cop out, one that "that is a devolved matter and thus not our problem" and the other "this is a devolved matter those in central government will not fund" |
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Post by thomas on Jan 24, 2024 8:03:34 GMT
What's a Brit Nat anyway? I know there are British patriots who respect all corners of these isles and aren't too keen on being ruled from Brussels. Seriously, dressing up in tartan and grunting is cheap materialism that attempts to offset all of the built up hate and brainwashing a minority are into in Scotland. Why do you think Marxists are into it? the phrase in this context means people who share my opinion that blair's devolution was a cheap stunt to achieve the total destruction of the identity of the united kingdom as a sovereign state, and to instigate unending rule by the left over too many aspects of life in the corners of the former united kingdom formerly governed centrally by one body of elected representatives, using the fallacy that this provides the government the people want whereas all it really does is give both westminster and the said remote shit pits a cop out, one that "that is a devolved matter and thus not our problem" and the other "this is a devolved matter those in central government will not fund" Devolution was another vote you lost though wasn't it? Tell me John , in the years ive known you online , apart from the 2016 Brexit referendum , where your vote coincided with the anglo saxon majority , is there actually any plebiscite you have ever actually won? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 24, 2024 8:47:35 GMT
the phrase in this context means people who share my opinion that blair's devolution was a cheap stunt to achieve the total destruction of the identity of the united kingdom as a sovereign state, and to instigate unending rule by the left over too many aspects of life in the corners of the former united kingdom formerly governed centrally by one body of elected representatives, using the fallacy that this provides the government the people want whereas all it really does is give both westminster and the said remote shit pits a cop out, one that "that is a devolved matter and thus not our problem" and the other "this is a devolved matter those in central government will not fund" Devolution was another vote you lost though wasn't it? Tell me John , in the years ive known you online , apart from the 2016 Brexit referendum , where your vote coincided with the anglo saxon majority , is there actually any plebiscite you have ever actually won? Well, there’s always 2010 where the objective of my tactical vote was achieved I’m not sure but as far as ‘sense of achievement’ goes 2016 was good 1980 was good too. I voted for cardiff councils official bring a bottle party candidate and while he was not elected he received a share of the vote in excess of the 5% that would have saved his deposit in a uk westminster election, which is more than the cottage burner candidate got. But in those days we knew who the terrorist were. None of them spoke English as a first language. It took Blair to remove that distinction. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 26, 2024 15:28:15 GMT
I can't say I am entirely surprised.
Here's the thing though both these states are to a fair degree supported by taxation taken from England.
I have come to the opinion this might be good to cut the purse strings before we have any future attempts to rejoin the EU. Let them rejoin the EU as separate states like the Balkans are doing and let's see how that would go. Not very well I expect as a lot in former Yugoslavia miss things from when they were one state.
Let's hope the election wakes them up by voting to show they don't want this.
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 12:51:58 GMT
I can't say I am entirely surprised. Here's the thing though both these states are to a fair degree supported by taxation taken from England. I have come to the opinion this might be good to cut the purse strings before we have any future attempts to rejoin the EU. Let them rejoin the EU as separate states like the Balkans are doing and let's see how that would go. Not very well I expect as a lot in former Yugoslavia miss things from when they were one state. Let's hope the election wakes them up by voting to show they don't want this. we are completely with you Bancroft. That's what Scottish and Welsh indy is all about , cutting the purse strings from our nations to yours. you keep your taxation , and we keep ours . simples. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 27, 2024 13:30:07 GMT
I can't say I am entirely surprised. Here's the thing though both these states are to a fair degree supported by taxation taken from England. I have come to the opinion this might be good to cut the purse strings before we have any future attempts to rejoin the EU. Let them rejoin the EU as separate states like the Balkans are doing and let's see how that would go. Not very well I expect as a lot in former Yugoslavia miss things from when they were one state. Let's hope the election wakes them up by voting to show they don't want this. we are completely with you Bancroft. That's what Scottish and Welsh indy is all about , cutting the purse strings from our nations to yours. you keep your taxation , and we keep ours . simples. Yet if Indy does occur some sharing of debt and assets and also trade off debt for assets not wanted. I don't think it will though as the EU is used to supporting poor states and then you have Spain that still does not recognise Kosovo. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 13:48:09 GMT
we are completely with you Bancroft. That's what Scottish and Welsh indy is all about , cutting the purse strings from our nations to yours. you keep your taxation , and we keep ours . simples. Yet if Indy does occur some sharing of debt and assets and also trade off debt for assets not wanted. I don't think it will though as the EU is used to supporting poor states and then you have Spain that still does not recognise Kosovo. Scotland has already paid off billions of Englands debts. George Osbourne already confirmed in 2014 to the world markets publicly that the current uk debt is Westminsters liability , and legally theirs to deal with. If they ask nicely , the Scottish government and potentially the welsh government might consider taking a share , for a price of course, or we might say no and do what ireland did. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 27, 2024 16:35:35 GMT
Yet if Indy does occur some sharing of debt and assets and also trade off debt for assets not wanted. I don't think it will though as the EU is used to supporting poor states and then you have Spain that still does not recognise Kosovo. Scotland has already paid off billions of Englands debts. George Osbourne already confirmed in 2014 to the world markets publicly that the current uk debt is Westminsters liability , and legally theirs to deal with. If they ask nicely , the Scottish government and potentially the welsh government might consider taking a share , for a price of course, or we might say no and do what ireland did. The only thing I had heard about Ireland was the land reformation act which took land away from large Anglo holdings, not public knowledge though at least in England. the Union of England and Scotland in 1705 is something else and by far most of the debt has come in that time. Travel the colonies and both English and Scot names in far away places. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2024 17:05:04 GMT
Scotland has already paid off billions of Englands debts. George Osbourne already confirmed in 2014 to the world markets publicly that the current uk debt is Westminsters liability , and legally theirs to deal with. If they ask nicely , the Scottish government and potentially the welsh government might consider taking a share , for a price of course, or we might say no and do what ireland did. The only thing I had heard about Ireland was the land reformation act which took land away from large Anglo holdings, not public knowledge though at least in England. the Union of England and Scotland in 1705 is something else and by far most of the debt has come in that time. Travel the colonies and both English and Scot names in far away places. im talking about the republic of irelands independence post 1922 and refusal to take any of Westminster debt. There is a clear precedence set already is my point regarding scotland taking any of your debt. |
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