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Post by Vinny on Jan 30, 2024 13:27:56 GMT
What they're really saying is: "Devolution has failed, let us (who can't be trusted with the power we've already got) have even more power so we can fail even more spectacularly".
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Post by Tinculin on Jan 31, 2024 1:18:20 GMT
B-4
Let's stop with the personal attacks please.
You may disagree with Thomas, but if so, please articulate why and do so without resorting to personal attacks.
Thanks,
T Sure, I said something similar to Thomas when he was altering my posts and making direct personal attacks toward myself. Of course, I didn't report it and am now blessed with the knowledge of the fascist hypocrisy from the enemy territory.
EDIT: he just continued to change my posts and spam gif images on another thread.
@b-4 let's tone down the remarks of fascism, those are entirely unnecessary.thomas - Are you altering people's posts? I assume this means you're being accused of changing what they've said in the quote that you are replying to.If so, please cease this moving forward.
I'm fine for you to trim posts made by others so you can cut down what you're replying to, but do not misrepresent, change or alter what they've said.
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Post by borchester on Jan 31, 2024 14:33:46 GMT
Sure, I said something similar to Thomas when he was altering my posts and making direct personal attacks toward myself. Of course, I didn't report it and am now blessed with the knowledge of the fascist hypocrisy from the enemy territory.
EDIT: he just continued to change my posts and spam gif images on another thread.
@b-4 let's tone down the remarks of fascism, those are entirely unnecessary.thomas - Are you altering people's posts? I assume this means you're being accused of changing what they've said in the quote that you are replying to.If so, please cease this moving forward.
I'm fine for you to trim posts made by others so you can cut down what you're replying to, but do not misrepresent, change or alter what they've said.
Thanks.Tommy is a big boy and can look after himself |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 31, 2024 19:35:22 GMT
Tommy is a big boy and can look after himself Indeed. If he's allowed to. |
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Post by borchester on Jan 31, 2024 19:52:38 GMT
Tommy is a big boy and can look after himself Indeed. If he's allowed to. He is a good lad and is unlikely to be deterred by anyone on this board. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 31, 2024 19:56:22 GMT
Indeed. If he's allowed to. He is a good lad and is unlikely to be deterred by anyone on this board. I agree. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 31, 2024 22:16:07 GMT
I can't say I am entirely surprised. Here's the thing though both these states are to a fair degree supported by taxation taken from England. I have come to the opinion this might be good to cut the purse strings before we have any future attempts to rejoin the EU. Let them rejoin the EU as separate states like the Balkans are doing and let's see how that would go. Not very well I expect as a lot in former Yugoslavia miss things from when they were one state. Let's hope the election wakes them up by voting to show they don't want this. you’ve just agreed to throw three billion at the six counties … |
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Post by thomas on Feb 1, 2024 7:58:18 GMT
I can't say I am entirely surprised. Here's the thing though both these states are to a fair degree supported by taxation taken from England. I have come to the opinion this might be good to cut the purse strings before we have any future attempts to rejoin the EU. Let them rejoin the EU as separate states like the Balkans are doing and let's see how that would go. Not very well I expect as a lot in former Yugoslavia miss things from when they were one state. Let's hope the election wakes them up by voting to show they don't want this. you’ve just agreed to throw three billion at the six counties … I see the DUP are getting it tight from the loyalist community , with crys of sell out and betrayal . EU control over Northern Ireland is further entrenched............... |
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Post by Ripley on Feb 2, 2024 19:09:13 GMT
Thomas: One argument against Scotland having to share in the UK's debt is that, having been allowed no role in creating the debt, Scotland can't be held responsible for it.
I have read that if Westminster insists that an independent Scotland share the national debt, they will have to pay Scotland a commensurate share of the national assets, the majority of which are in England and abroad and must surely be well above the debt. Your opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 19:15:51 GMT
Thomas: One argument against Scotland having to share in the UK's debt is that, having been allowed no role in creating the debt, Scotland can't be held responsible for it. I have read that if Westminster insists that an independent Scotland share the national debt, they will have to pay Scotland a commensurate share of the national assets, the majority of which are in England and abroad and must surely be well above the debt. Your opinion? Maybe to stupid people who have been brainwashed to actually believe England is the UK. |
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Post by thomas on Feb 3, 2024 12:14:49 GMT
Thomas: One argument against Scotland having to share in the UK's debt is that, having been allowed no role in creating the debt, Scotland can't be held responsible for it. I have read that if Westminster insists that an independent Scotland share the national debt, they will have to pay Scotland a commensurate share of the national assets, the majority of which are in England and abroad and must surely be well above the debt. Your opinion? sorry Ripley just read this. I would argue it's better financially for scotland to walk without taking a single penny in Westminster debt. Most Scots would bite your hand off . If there is the inevitable horse trading , then quite obviously we are in a pretty strong position regarding uk assets. We could offer Spain our share of Gibraltar for example ,for European support in rejoining the EU  |
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Post by thomas on Feb 3, 2024 12:17:11 GMT
Thomas: One argument against Scotland having to share in the UK's debt is that, having been allowed no role in creating the debt, Scotland can't be held responsible for it. I have read that if Westminster insists that an independent Scotland share the national debt, they will have to pay Scotland a commensurate share of the national assets, the majority of which are in England and abroad and must surely be well above the debt. Your opinion? Maybe to stupid people who have been brainwashed to actually believe England is the UK. whats your quote got to do with what Ripley has said? The United Kingdom will no longer exist when scotland leaves. Whatever the successor state calls itself , is irrelevant to the point that Ripley is making . George Osbourne as uk chancellor already announced to the world when he was in power that Westminster is legally and wholly responsible for all United Kingdom debt. |
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Post by Ripley on Feb 3, 2024 15:49:14 GMT
Thomas: One argument against Scotland having to share in the UK's debt is that, having been allowed no role in creating the debt, Scotland can't be held responsible for it. I have read that if Westminster insists that an independent Scotland share the national debt, they will have to pay Scotland a commensurate share of the national assets, the majority of which are in England and abroad and must surely be well above the debt. Your opinion? sorry Ripley just read this. I would argue it's better financially for scotland to walk without taking a single penny in Westminster debt. Most Scots would bite your hand off . If there is the inevitable horse trading , then quite obviously we are in a pretty strong position regarding uk assets. We could offer Spain our share of Gibraltar for example ,for European support in rejoining the EU A win/win for Scotland either way, then!  |
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Post by thomas on Feb 3, 2024 19:03:03 GMT
sorry Ripley just read this. I would argue it's better financially for scotland to walk without taking a single penny in Westminster debt. Most Scots would bite your hand off . If there is the inevitable horse trading , then quite obviously we are in a pretty strong position regarding uk assets. We could offer Spain our share of Gibraltar for example ,for European support in rejoining the EU A win/win for Scotland either way, then! hopefully Ripley. A nation re merging from a disastrous union with zero debt is clearly a win win . |
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Post by bancroft on Feb 14, 2024 15:16:46 GMT
Thomas: One argument against Scotland having to share in the UK's debt is that, having been allowed no role in creating the debt, Scotland can't be held responsible for it. I have read that if Westminster insists that an independent Scotland share the national debt, they will have to pay Scotland a commensurate share of the national assets, the majority of which are in England and abroad and must surely be well above the debt. Your opinion? That is a laugh you have towns across the old British empire with Scottish names. I do agree that assets should be taken into account with debts though so there would be some degree of negotiation, like how many frigates or helicopters does Scotland want or not and this get removed from debt allocation. The alternative it to abrograte any debt ruling yet with Spain in the Eu they would block that so Scotland would need to go it alone and then there are pensions etc. I have read break ups are always messy and we have the recent break from the EU to show just how awkward they get and it is still not final after 7 years. |
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