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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 13:00:49 GMT
We can't prosper without natural resources. Apart from food and hydrocarbons, the UK has little need to import natural natural resources these days. It's manufacturing sector hardly exists. Have you seen the price rises for building materials? We need homes to live in. What is your solution? How do we balance trade with these other countries we buy stuff off? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 13:11:44 GMT
This is the problem with the Brits. They know all the things they don't want to do, but it leaves them doing nothing and getting shat on. You have got to look at which way the wind is blowing. By the way, how do you answer the points raised by the professor?
Regarding South Africa, I think they have some revolving presidency of the BRICS a bit like the EU does. They are trying to run it democratically, but in reality right now China holds most of the clout and Russia is number two. They were like the founding members, way back before we had seen any of this. China went around the world making political ties, so they already had a group who were thinking along the same lines. In my opinion, South Africa has a lot more to gain by membership than it has to lose, so it is pretty compliment and well-behaved. If there were any loose cannon in that group it would be India, but India is right now quite keen on the BRICS. They get cheap oil for one thing. It's interesting that Britain has close ties with India too. That might be a positive for UK-BRICS politics.
I very doubt they would want the UK, as we are controlled via Whitehouse policy which foreign policy is controlled by AIPAC as well as much internal policy, so I wouldn't be thinking they would be seeing the UK as an asset. It would lead to US policy being dictated to them through the UK. Yes but the reason to do it is so we can stick two fingers up at the US. This is why they would like it. We have been a pain in the arse to these guys, so I think it is time we came clean, said sorry and start building as constructive relationship and tell the US where to go. They can't screw us if we are economically tied into the BRICS. The BRICS will be its own internal market for precisely this reason. China is actually keen on having us with them. Russia would be happy if we ditched the US. We can get on OK with Russians. Also places like Iran would mellow out with us if we were no longer the US' servant. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 16, 2024 13:17:59 GMT
The USA is our friend and ally.
Sticking two fingers up at them and swanning off with Putin, is like sticking two fingers up at your best friend and then going on a night out with Gary Glitter.
The guy may have a lot of money, but he's still a kunt.
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Post by sheepy on Jan 16, 2024 13:30:12 GMT
I very doubt they would want the UK, as we are controlled via Whitehouse policy which foreign policy is controlled by AIPAC as well as much internal policy, so I wouldn't be thinking they would be seeing the UK as an asset. It would lead to US policy being dictated to them through the UK. Yes but the reason to do it is so we can stick two fingers up at the US. This is why they would like it. We have been a pain in the arse to these guys, so I think it is time we came clean, said sorry and start building as constructive relationship and tell the US where to go. They can't screw us if we are economically tied into the BRICS. The BRICS will be its own internal market for precisely this reason. China is actually keen on having us with them. Russia would be happy if we ditched the US. We can get on OK with Russians. Also places like Iran would mellow out with us if we were no longer the US' servant. It will never happen, the UK is controlled by US policy, they know it and so does everyone else. They wouldn't trust a UK government as far as you could throw one. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 13:55:07 GMT
Yes but the reason to do it is so we can stick two fingers up at the US. This is why they would like it. We have been a pain in the arse to these guys, so I think it is time we came clean, said sorry and start building as constructive relationship and tell the US where to go. They can't screw us if we are economically tied into the BRICS. The BRICS will be its own internal market for precisely this reason. China is actually keen on having us with them. Russia would be happy if we ditched the US. We can get on OK with Russians. Also places like Iran would mellow out with us if we were no longer the US' servant. It will never happen, the UK is controlled by US policy, they know it and so does everyone else. They wouldn't trust a UK government as far as you could throw one. The UK government deserves to be thrown out by the people. Joining the BRICS would be part of a post-defeated government when someone asks what now. Our government are only cunts because they work for US interests and not UK interests. Ask how poor do we need to get before a change is seen as more desirable? The BRICS would end up stronger than the US and the US will crumble in some 30 years by my reckoning. We will go down with it if we carry on as we are. The early bird catches the worm. We left the EU first, so we are somewhat travelling down that road anyway. In BRICS we would gain access to development capital. That's the other thing. The UK is skint. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 16, 2024 14:18:03 GMT
Apart from food and hydrocarbons, the UK has little need to import natural natural resources these days. It's manufacturing sector hardly exists. Have you seen the price rises for building materials? We need homes to live in. What is your solution? How do we balance trade with these other countries we buy stuff off? "Services" |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 14:27:54 GMT
Have you seen the price rises for building materials? We need homes to live in. What is your solution? How do we balance trade with these other countries we buy stuff off? "Services" Services are being replaced by AI. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 16, 2024 14:29:12 GMT
So the answer's nothing then.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 14:29:21 GMT
The USA is our friend and ally. Sticking two fingers up at them and swanning off with Putin, is like sticking two fingers up at your best friend and then going on a night out with Gary Glitter. The guy may have a lot of money, but he's still a kunt. You don't know your history. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 14:40:35 GMT
I'd rather join the EU than BRICS, and that is saying something.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 14:42:35 GMT
So the answer's nothing then. Well then we had better find some way of making some money then. Tourism was a bit of a booming industry in the UK but this is what our hotels look like now.
(Edit: I just checked. The security firm that immigrant works for is Swedish)
Many town centres are now boarded up and vandalised.
You might like to look at some US and Canadian cities. Toronto 50% are non-native and a typical flat has risen from about $800 to about $2500 pcm. Many former white collar professionals are living in tents, and those high paying software and HR jobs are being obliterated as interest rates rise and the zombie company fails.
Without cheap raw materials we can not get anywhere. The countries where they exist would rather sell the materials as finished manufactured products. We pay for this by selling off our real estate to foreigners. Much of central London is foreign-owned now. Most of our industry is as well. We promote wind power, but all the wind power is foreign-owned. All our car firms are as well.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 14:44:25 GMT
I'd rather join the EU than BRICS, and that is saying something. Yes but can you say why. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 16, 2024 15:55:41 GMT
When we talk about services, it's not giving somebody a massage or flipping their burger, but this sort of thing. Many contracts in which the parties are not British or even reside here, and where the agreement concerns matters that have nothing to with England, specify that English law will apply and any dispute will be subject to jurisdiction in an English court. Britain's biggest divorce settlementThe fees here would have been in the tens of millions, certainly more than enough to pay for new Porsches for all the barristers involved. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 16, 2024 16:20:17 GMT
The USA is our friend and ally. Sticking two fingers up at them and swanning off with Putin, is like sticking two fingers up at your best friend and then going on a night out with Gary Glitter. The guy may have a lot of money, but he's still a kunt. You don't know your history. I know enough. Putin raped kids in East Germany in the 80's whilst working alongside the Stasi and was for a time held back for promotion by the KGB because of it. He also liaised with the Baader Meinhof terrorist organisation. In the 90's he was involved in the KGB failed coup against Gorbachev and involved in the contingency plan becoming involved in St Petersburg politics, became Mayor of St Petersburg in the mid 90's. Then with the aid of Boris Berezovsky ended up in charge of the FSB. From there he ended up as PM to Boris Yeltsin, and used the FSB to fake terrorism to justify the invasion of Chechnya. He then took over the Russian Mafia and became the richest man on the planet. Over a million dead because of Putin. And if that wasn't bad enough, fucking China is in it too. Over a hundred million dead because of Communism. Death to dictatorships. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 16, 2024 16:23:08 GMT
You don't know your history. I know enough. Putin raped kids in East Germany in the 80's whilst working alongside the Stasi and was for a time held back for promotion by the KGB because of it. He also liaised with the Baader Meinhof terrorist organisation. In the 90's he was involved in the KGB failed coup against Gorbachev and involved in the contingency plan becoming involved in St Petersburg politics, became Mayor of St Petersburg in the mid 90's. Then with the aid of Boris Berezovsky ended up in charge of the FSB. From there he ended up as PM to Boris Yeltsin, and used the FSB to fake terrorism to justify the invasion of Chechnya. He then took over the Russian Mafia and became the richest man on the planet. Over a million dead because of Putin. And if that wasn't bad enough, fucking China is in it too. Over a hundred million dead because of Communism. Death to dictatorships. But you propose the same thing: more fighting. You will lose because you will run out of money to fight with. |
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