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Post by Pacifico on Jan 15, 2024 11:38:43 GMT
If Wales is not the blueprint what have the Labour party in Wales been doing for the past 25 years? Their own independent approach to Welsh problems. How is. that working out for them? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 15, 2024 11:39:56 GMT
So Labour 'winning' means a worse NHS, worse education results, worse water system, worse economic growth etc etc... Now that is something to aspire to...  If only you and your crystal ball could separate rational thinking from ingrained political bias, you might actually join in with the real world. Indeed - I am totally biased against a worse NHS, worse education results, worse water system and worse economic growth. I am funny like that.. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2024 11:41:37 GMT
Before she was silenced and bundled into a broom cupboard Angela Raynor told us that Wales and London demonstrate how Labour will run the Country. Quite. The Tories have given the Country a good shove downhill, but nothing like the precipice that Labour will heave us over. I have been giving a thought to where it all went wrong, I think that the treacherous and deceitful Mrs May started it all with her duplicity and lies over Brexit, followed by the chaotic, incompetent and shambolic Johnson, we might have recovered under Truss, but "they" swiftly removed her and put in a Prime Minister and Chancellor that none voted for or wanted, the Tories will be obliterated and quite rightly so. I suspect those who display enthusiasm for Labour have no recollection of the 1970's. Those who took notice of the reality that led up to the 1970s know just how ill informed you are. Many will also remember the utter right-wing political horrors of the 1980s under Thatcher. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2024 11:42:23 GMT
Their own independent approach to Welsh problems. How is. that working out for them? How did it work out before them? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2024 11:49:04 GMT
If only you and your crystal ball could separate rational thinking from ingrained political bias, you might actually join in with the real world. Indeed - I am totally biased against a worse NHS, worse education results, worse water system and worse economic growth. I am funny like that.. No, you do not even know how things would work out under a Centre-left Labour government (for the second time), it did extremely well last time out. Perhaps that is your problem, you fear your nonsense party that has done so much damage over the last 70 odd years will be kept out of office for a long period AGAIN. No, you are just funny, like Boris, but thanks anyway for proving your non-objective approach to politics. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 15, 2024 12:00:55 GMT
Their own independent approach to Welsh problems. How is. that working out for them? It's got them 25yrs of Rule |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 15, 2024 14:30:56 GMT
How is. that working out for them? It's got them 25yrs of Rule ..and sub-standard (compared to England under the Tories) services. A win win - apparently.. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 15, 2024 14:37:01 GMT
It's got them 25yrs of Rule ..and sub-standard (compared to England under the Tories) services. A win win - apparently.. Dosnt matter they still been leading party for 25yrs Don't think there ever been a single party to lead a country for such a long time in Western Europe. That's a Achievement in anyone books. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 15, 2024 18:16:49 GMT
..and sub-standard (compared to England under the Tories) services. A win win - apparently.. Dosnt matter they still been leading party for 25yrs Don't think there ever been a single party to lead a country for such a long time in Western Europe. That's a Achievement in anyone books. Thats great - I don't live in Wales but if the Welsh are happy with Labour in power delivering sub-standard services who am I to complain. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 15, 2024 18:29:05 GMT
Dosnt matter they still been leading party for 25yrs Don't think there ever been a single party to lead a country for such a long time in Western Europe. That's a Achievement in anyone books. Thats great - I don't live in Wales but if the Welsh are happy with Labour in power delivering sub-standard services who am I to complain. Yep that's right you don't live in Wales but you and Thomas couldn't resist bringing wales into the discussion even when I kept saying that didn't reflect on Labour ability to Goven the UK |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 15, 2024 18:32:11 GMT
Thats great - I don't live in Wales but if the Welsh are happy with Labour in power delivering sub-standard services who am I to complain. Yep that's right you don't live in Wales but you and Thomas couldn't resist bringing wales into the discussion even when I kept saying that didn't reflect on Labour ability to Goven the UK FFS lefty old bean. Wales is supposed to be the model for the labour bunch of crap to run the whole UK... God fucking help us. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 15, 2024 20:59:17 GMT
Yep that's right you don't live in Wales but you and Thomas couldn't resist bringing wales into the discussion even when I kept saying that didn't reflect on Labour ability to Goven the UK FFS lefty old bean. Wales is supposed to be the model for the labour bunch of crap to run the whole UK... God fucking help us. Is it think they was referring to how long they Goveran And talk about Crap and God help us yea I agree if there ever another Conservative government in my life time |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 15, 2024 22:37:59 GMT
Thats great - I don't live in Wales but if the Welsh are happy with Labour in power delivering sub-standard services who am I to complain. Yep that's right you don't live in Wales but you and Thomas couldn't resist bringing wales into the discussion even when I kept saying that didn't reflect on Labour ability to Goven the UK Why are Labour in England going to be better than Labour in Wales? - are the Labour Party in Wales particularly stupid or something? Is it all that singing?... |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 15, 2024 23:03:56 GMT
Yep that's right you don't live in Wales but you and Thomas couldn't resist bringing wales into the discussion even when I kept saying that didn't reflect on Labour ability to Goven the UK Why are Labour in England going to be better than Labour in Wales? - are the Labour Party in Wales particularly stupid or something? Is it all that singing?... Don't know about Wales Government being stupid but I do know that wales has A much older population that obviously effects the NHS it's highest form of Tax receipt is VAT not Income tax they don't have a working age population equal to ours and certain areas of Wales have never Recoverd Since the pits Closed down .and don't even know if they have a National industry anymore All that will effect there Economy. Wales is no where as Rich has England. Why do you think the Welsh keep voting them in are they Stupid |
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